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Joker's Thug #3
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Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 2:36 am Posts: 11130 Location: Waiting for the Dark Knight to kick my ass
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Slant is doing the cool thing, they're like rebels. Hardcore to the extreme.
_________________ "People always want to tear you down when you're on top, like Napoleon back in the Roman Empire" - Dirk Diggler
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Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:28 pm |
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Jonathan
Begging Naked
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:07 pm Posts: 14737 Location: The Present (Duh)
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Travers annoys me so much. It's like he took a list of the films most likely to appeal to the Academy, critics and average Joes and plopped his name on it.
Slant is expectedly snobby with the occasionally off-color choice (Miami Vice on both lists), but that makes them one of the funner Top Ten lists to read.
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Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:30 pm |
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Jonathan
Begging Naked
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:07 pm Posts: 14737 Location: The Present (Duh)
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Oh, and lemme praise Schager for including V4V on his Worst list.
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Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:01 pm |
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xiayun
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:41 pm Posts: 25109 Location: San Mateo, CA
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Awards Czar Jon wrote: xiayun wrote: Happyness jumped way up at RT from 29% to 53%. Look like Smith doesn't have to pull off a I am Sam. It's even at 53% in COTC right now. Lookin' good (For Actor at least, it's only real shot now).
Have climbed all the way back to fresh (almost there for COTC too).
_________________Recent watched movies: American Hustle - B+ Inside Llewyn Davis - B Before Midnight - A 12 Years a Slave - A- The Hunger Games: Catching Fire - A- My thoughts on box office
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xiayun
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:41 pm Posts: 25109 Location: San Mateo, CA
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Happyness is now 67% at RT and 65% COTC. This is as big a turnaround as I can recall. Ray was rotten early on, but I don't think it had as many reviews then. Happyness was at 29% with like 17 reviews.
David Ansen (Newsweek) top 10 of the year
Army of Shadows
Little Miss Sunshine
The Queen
Letters from Iwo Jima
The Departed
Half Nelson
Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
Dreamgirls
Venus
Volver
People Magazine's Top Ten
1. The Departed
2. Borat
3. United 93
4. Little Miss Sunshine
5. Flags of Our Fathers
6. Little Children
7. The Good Shepherd
8. The Queen
9. The Proposition
10. Volver
_________________Recent watched movies: American Hustle - B+ Inside Llewyn Davis - B Before Midnight - A 12 Years a Slave - A- The Hunger Games: Catching Fire - A- My thoughts on box office
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android
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:44 am Posts: 2913 Location: Portugal
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Borat might be in the top 5 when all the lists are counted. Little Miss Sunshine continues to show up alot too.
Looks like the global top 10 might look something like this:
Letters from Iwo Jima
United 93
The Departed
The Queen
Borat
Volver
Little Miss Sunshine
Half Nelson
Dreamgirls
Babel
which would be 9/10 from Travers list? 
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android
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:44 am Posts: 2913 Location: Portugal
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Awards Czar Jon wrote: Travers annoys me so much. It's like he took a list of the films most likely to appeal to the Academy, critics and average Joes and plopped his name on it.
I love the guy, but I completely understand what you're saying. Can someone love every possible Oscar contender except Bobby (which was dead already)? I don't know, honestly.
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Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:22 am |
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Joker's Thug #3
Extraordinary
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 2:36 am Posts: 11130 Location: Waiting for the Dark Knight to kick my ass
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Letters up to 98 on metacritic, with another 100 from RS this time.
But it's down to 83% on RT, with a review from tonymedley.com
_________________ "People always want to tear you down when you're on top, like Napoleon back in the Roman Empire" - Dirk Diggler
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Sat Dec 16, 2006 4:28 pm |
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Levy
Golfaholic
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:06 pm Posts: 16054
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Killuminati510 wrote: Letters up to 98 on metacritic, with another 100 from RS this time.
But it's down to 83% on RT, with a review from tonymedley.com
Tony Medley? Why again isn't Galia included on Rotten Tomatoes if people like that are? BTW: The guy gave Little Miss Sunshine, The Queen and A Prairie Home Companion 5/10 (the same rating Basic Instinct 2 achieved) and Nativity Story 10/10
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Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:16 pm |
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xiayun
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:41 pm Posts: 25109 Location: San Mateo, CA
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Levy wrote: Killuminati510 wrote: Letters up to 98 on metacritic, with another 100 from RS this time.
But it's down to 83% on RT, with a review from tonymedley.com Tony Medley? Why again isn't Galia included on Rotten Tomatoes if people like that are? BTW: The guy gave Little Miss Sunshine, The Queen and A Prairie Home Companion 5/10 (the same rating Basic Instinct 2 achieved) and Nativity Story 10/10
I don't understand why such person gets included at RT either.
_________________Recent watched movies: American Hustle - B+ Inside Llewyn Davis - B Before Midnight - A 12 Years a Slave - A- The Hunger Games: Catching Fire - A- My thoughts on box office
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:28 pm Posts: 10266 Location: Mordor, Middle Earth
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Amen. I also don't get it. Why does junk like that get to go onto RT, but Dolce couldn't get accepted? That makes NO SENSE whatsoever.
Peace,
Mike.
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Sat Dec 16, 2006 8:41 pm |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40240
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Some awfully random choices in there.
Friends With Money? 
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Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
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Levy wrote: Killuminati510 wrote: Letters up to 98 on metacritic, with another 100 from RS this time.
But it's down to 83% on RT, with a review from tonymedley.com Tony Medley? Why again isn't Galia included on Rotten Tomatoes if people like that are? BTW: The guy gave Little Miss Sunshine, The Queen and A Prairie Home Companion 5/10 (the same rating Basic Instinct 2 achieved) and Nativity Story 10/10
My God he's awful. I read a few reviews and had to stop, it was garbage.
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:36 pm |
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JURiNG
ef star star kay
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:45 pm Posts: 3016 Location: Cairo, Egypt
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Shack wrote: Some awfully random choices in there. Friends With Money? 
why? it wasn't so bad? in fact, it's in my top10 as well 
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:53 pm |
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xiayun
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:41 pm Posts: 25109 Location: San Mateo, CA
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James Berardinelli gave The Good Shepherd 3.5 stars, The Painted Veil 3, Venus 3.
_________________Recent watched movies: American Hustle - B+ Inside Llewyn Davis - B Before Midnight - A 12 Years a Slave - A- The Hunger Games: Catching Fire - A- My thoughts on box office
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zennier
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Joined: Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:38 pm Posts: 10316 Location: berkeley
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Is that site that organizes top tens going to be up this year?
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:53 pm |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:28 pm Posts: 10266 Location: Mordor, Middle Earth
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zennier wrote: Is that site that organizes top tens going to be up this year?
Yes.
http://criticstop10.net/
It hasn't started yet, but should be soon with all of the lists coming in.
Peace,
Mike.
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:12 pm |
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MikeQ.
The French Dutch Boy
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Winners tallies so far. Man, look at all those bloody wins for Whitaker and Mirren. Jackie Earl Haley has pulled through with the most supporting actor wins so far. Supporting Actor, actually, is probably the only acting category that's even up for grabs. It seems like Whitaker, Mirren and Hudson have their respective categories (although I'm super glad for Hudson's wins; I hope she wins the Oscar, seriously). The Departed has broken away in the Best Picture and Best Director categories, and United 93 in a way still holds its own (even if the Oscars seem rather distant now).
BEST PICTURE
The Departed - BSFC, SEFCA, LVFCS
United 93 - WAFCA, NYFCC, DFWFCA
Letters From Iwo Jima - LAFCA, NBR
The Queen - NYFCO
Little Children - SFFCC
BEST DIRECTOR
Martin Scorsese, The Departed - NBR, BSFC, WAFCA, NYFCC, SEFCA, DFWFCA, LVFCS
Paul Greengrass, United 93 - LAFCA, SFFCC
Stephen Frears, The Queen - NYFCO
BEST ACTOR
Forest Whitaker, The Last King of Scotland - NBR, BFCA, LAFCA, NYFCO, WAFCA, NYFCC, SEFCA, DFWFCA, LVFCS
Sacha Baron Cohen, Borat - LAFCA, SFFCC
BEST ACTRESS
Helen Mirren, The Queen - NBR, BFCA, LAFCA, NYFCO, WAFCA, NYFCC, SFFCC, SEFCA, DFWFCA, LVFCS
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Jackie Earl Haley, Little Children - NYFCC, SFFCC, SEFCA, DFWFCA
Djimon Hounsou, Blood Diamond - NBR, WAFCA, LVFCS
Michael Sheen, The Queen - LAFCA, NYFCO
Mark Wahlberg, The Departed - BSFC
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Jennifer Hudson, Dreamgirls - NYFCO, WAFCA, NYFCC, IPA, SEFCA, LFVCS
Catherine O'Hara, For Your Consideration - NBR, NYFCO
Cate Blanchett, Notes on a Scandal - DFWFCA
Shareeka Epps, Half Nelson - BSFC
Luminita Gheorghiu, The Death of Mr. Lazarescu - LAFCA
Adriana Barraza, Babel - SFFCC
SCREENPLAY
Peter Morgan, The Queen - LAFCA, NYFCO, NYFCC
William Monahan, The Departed - BSFC, SEFCA
Todd Field & Tom Perrotta, Little Children - SFFCC
Ron Nyswaner, The Painted Veil - NBR
Zach Helm, Stranger Than Fiction - NBR
Michael Arndt, Little Miss Sunshine - WAFCA, SEFCA
Jason Reitman, Thank You for Smoking - WAFCA, LVFCS
FOREIGN FILM
Pan's Labyrinth - BSFC, NYFCO, WAFCA, SFFCC, SEFCA, LVFCS
Volver - NBR
The Lives of Others - LAFCA
Army of Shadows - NYFCC
Letters from Iwo Jima - DFWFCA
DOCUMENTARY
An Inconvenient Truth - LAFCA, WAFCA, SEFCA, DFWFCA, LVFCS
Deliver Us From Evil - BSFC, NYFCC
Shut Up & Sing - BSFC
ANIMATED FEATURE
Happy Feet - LAFCA, WAFCA, NYFCO, NYFCC, DFWFCA
Cars - NBR, SEFCA
Monster House - LVFCS
ENSEMBLE CAST
Little Miss Sunshine - WAFCA, NYFCO
United 93 - BSFC
CINEMATOGRAPHY
Emmanuel Lubezki, Children of Men - LAFCA, LVFCS
Guillermo Navarro, Pan's Labyrinth - BSFC, NYFCC
Dean Semler, Apocalypto - DFWFCA
ART DIRECTION/PRODUCTION DESIGN
Pierre Duboisberranger & Anne Seibel, Marie-Antoinette - WAFCA, LVFCS
Eugenio Caballero, Pan's Labyrinth - LAFCA
SCORE
Thomas Newman, The Good German - LVFCS
Philip Glass, The Illusionist - NYFCO
Alexandre Desplat, 'The Queen' and 'The Painted Veil' - LAFCA
SONG
"Ordinary Miracle," David Stewart & Glen Ballard (performed by Sarah McLachlan), Charlotte's Web - LVFCS
FILM EDITING
Thelma Schoonmaker, The Departed - LVFCS
COSTUME DESIGN
Milena Canonero, Marie Antoinette - LVFCS
VISUAL EFFECTS
John Bruno, X-Men: The Last Stand - LVFCS
Peace,
Mike.
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Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:50 pm |
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Snrub
Vagina Qwertyuiop
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:14 pm Posts: 8767 Location: Great Living Standards
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When do the guilds start up?
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xiayun
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:41 pm Posts: 25109 Location: San Mateo, CA
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Time's Top 10:
1. Letters from Iwo Jima
2. Borat
3. The Departed
4. United 93
5. The Queen
6. Pan's Labyrinth
7. The Good Shephard
8. Cars
9. District B13
10. Curse of the Golden Flower
_________________Recent watched movies: American Hustle - B+ Inside Llewyn Davis - B Before Midnight - A 12 Years a Slave - A- The Hunger Games: Catching Fire - A- My thoughts on box office
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xiayun
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:41 pm Posts: 25109 Location: San Mateo, CA
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Latest batch of BFCA scores:
Days of Glory 82
Good Shepherd, The 82
Letters From Iwo Jima 95
Night At The Museum 76
Painted Veil, The 84
Rocky Balboa 71
We Are Marshall 81
_________________Recent watched movies: American Hustle - B+ Inside Llewyn Davis - B Before Midnight - A 12 Years a Slave - A- The Hunger Games: Catching Fire - A- My thoughts on box office
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Jonathan
Begging Naked
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:07 pm Posts: 14737 Location: The Present (Duh)
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Expected score for Letters.
Wow, Rocky lower than Museum? Ouch.
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Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:43 pm |
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the limey
Speed Racer
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A O Scott reviews Letters from Iwo Jima for the NY Times, says 'Another masterwork from Clint Eastwood's astonishing late period, and one of the best war movies ever':
Quote: MOVIE REVIEW | 'LETTERS FROM IWO JIMA'
Blurring the Line in the Bleak Sands of Iwo Jima By A. O. SCOTT
There are certain assumptions that American audiences, perhaps without realizing it, are likely to bring to a movie about World War II. The combat picture has been a Hollywood staple for so long  since before the actual combat was over  that it can sometimes seem as if every possible story has already been told. Or else as if each individual story, from G.I. Joe to Private Ryan, is at bottom a variation on familiar themes: victory against the odds, brotherhood under fire, sacrifice for a noble cause.
But of course there are other, contrasting stories, a handful of which form the core of “Letters From Iwo Jima,†Clint Eastwood’s harrowing, contemplative new movie and the companion to his “Flags of Our Fathers,†which was released this fall. That film, partly about the famous photograph of American servicemen raising the flag on the barren volcanic island of Iwo Jima, complicated the standard Hollywood combat narrative in ways both subtle and overt. It exposed the heavy sediment of individual grief, cynicism and frustration beneath the collective high sentiments of glory and heroism but without entirely debunking the value or necessity of those sentiments.
“Letters,†which observes the lives and deaths of Japanese soldiers in the battle for Iwo Jima, similarly adheres to some of the conventions of the genre even as it quietly dismantles them. It is, unapologetically and even humbly, true to the durable tenets of the war-movie tradition, but it is also utterly original, even radical in its methods and insights.
In December 2004, with “Million Dollar Baby,†Mr. Eastwood almost nonchalantly took a tried and true template  the boxing picture  and struck from it the best American movie of the year. To my amazement, though hardly to my surprise, he has done it again; “Letters From Iwo Jima†might just be the best Japanese movie of the year as well.
This is not only because the Japanese actors, speaking in their own language, give such vivid and varied performances, but also because the film, in its every particular, seems deeply and un-self-consciously embedded in the experiences of the characters they play. “Letters From Iwo Jima†is not a chronicle of victory against the odds, but rather of inevitable defeat. When word comes from Imperial headquarters that there will be no reinforcements, no battleships, no air support in the impending fight with the United States Marines, any illusion of triumph vanishes, and the stark reality of the mission takes shape. The job of these soldiers and their commanders, in keeping with a military ethos they must embrace whether they believe in it or not, is to die with honor, if necessary by their own hands.
The cruelty of this notion of military discipline, derived from long tradition and maintained by force, is perhaps less startling than the sympathy Mr. Eastwood extends to his characters, whose sacrifices are made in the service of a cause that the American audience knows to be bad as well as doomed. It is hard to think of another war movie that has gone so deeply, so sensitively, into the mind-set of the opposing side.
Since the fighting that Mr. Eastwood depicts is limited to a single, self-contained piece of the Japanese homeland, the bloody roster of Japanese atrocities elsewhere in Asia and the South Pacific remains off screen. But this omission in no way compromises the moral gravity of what takes place before our eyes. Nor does it diminish the power of the film’s moving and meticulous vindication of the humanity of the enemy. (Mr. Eastwood also, not incidentally, exposes some inhumanity on the part of the American good guys, a few of whom are shown committing atrocities of their own.)
Any modern military organization depends, to some extent, on the dehumanization of its own fighters as well as their adversaries. (In “Flags of Our Fathers†the Japanese are all but faceless, firing unseen from bunkers and tunnels dug into the mountainside; in “Letters From Iwo Jima†we see the grueling work and strategic inspiration that led to the digging of those tunnels.)
An army needs personnel, not personalities, and one of the functions of the art and literature of war  especially on film, which exists to consecrate the human face  is to compensate for this forced anonymity by emphasizing the flesh-and-blood individuality of the combatants. Think of the classic Hollywood platoon picture, with its carefully distributed farm boys and city kids, its quota of blowhards and bookworms, all superintended by a wise, crusty commander. Even as they approach stereotype, those characters give names, faces and identities to men who have gone down in history mainly as statistics.
Historians estimate that 20,000 Japanese infantrymen defended Iwo Jima; 1,083 of them survived. (The Americans sent 77,000 Marines and nearly 100,000 total troops, of whom close to 7,000 died and almost 20,000 were wounded.) The Japanese commander was Lt. Gen. Tadamichi Kuribayashi, whose illustrated letters to his wife and children, recently unearthed on the island, were a source for Iris Yama****a’s script. Played by Ken Watanabe, Kuribayashi, who arrives on Iwo Jima with a pearl-handled Colt and fond memories of the years he spent in America before the war, is a dashing, cosmopolitan figure. He arouses a good deal of suspicion among the other officers for his modern ideas and for the kindness he sometimes displays toward the low-ranking soldiers.
The general is a practical man (those tunnels are his idea) in an impossible circumstance, and Mr. Watanabe’s performance is all the more heartbreaking for his crisp, unsentimental dignity. He anchors the film  this is some of the best acting of the year, in any language  but does not dominate it. Much as the Imperial Army may have been rigidly hierarchical, Mr. Eastwood’s sensibility is instinctively democratic. As the battle looms, and even as the bombs, bullets and artillery shells begin to explode, he takes the time to introduce us to Saigo (Kazunari Ninomiya), a guileless baker with no great desire to give his life for the glory of the nation; Lieutenant Ito (Shidou Nakamura), who will settle for nothing else; Baron Nishi (Tsuyoshi Ihara), an Olympic equestrian who once hobnobbed with Mary Pickford and Douglas Fairbanks; and Shimizu (Ryo Kase), who Saigo suspects is an agent of the secret police.
It is customary to use the word epic to describe a movie that deals with big battles, momentous historical events and large numbers of dead. But while some of Mr. Eastwood’s set pieces depict warfare on a large scale, the overall mood of “Letters From Iwo Jima,†as the title suggests, is strikingly intimate. Even though the movie has a blunt, emphatic emotional force, Mr. Eastwood also shows an attention to details of speech and gesture that can only be described as delicate.
He is as well acquainted as any American director (or actor) with the language of cinematic violence, but he has no equal when it comes to dramatizing the ethical and emotional consequences of brutality. There is nothing gratuitous in this film, nothing fancy or false. There is the humor and the viciousness of men in danger; there is the cool logic of military planning and the explosive irrationality of behavior in combat; there is life and death.
As in “Flags of Our Fathers,†nearly all the color has been drained from the images, a technique that makes the interiors of the caves and tunnels look like Rembrandt paintings. The anxious faces seem to glow in the shadows, illuminated by their own suffering. At other times, in the hard outdoor light, Tom Stern’s cinematography is as frank and solemn as a Mathew Brady photograph.
A few scenes serve as hinges joining this movie to “Flags of Our Fathers.†While “Letters From Iwo Jima†seems to me the more accomplished of the two films  by which I mean that it strikes me as close to perfect  the two enrich each other, and together achieve an extraordinary completeness. They show how the experience of war is both a shared and a divisive experience, separating the dead from the living and the winners from the losers, even as it binds them all together.
Both films travel back and forth in time and space between Iwo Jima and the homelands of the combatants. In “Flags of Our Fathers†the battle itself happens mainly in flashback, since the movie is in large measure about the guilt and confusion that survivors encountered upon their reluctant return home. In “Letters From Iwo Jima†the battle is in the present tense, and it is home that flickers occasionally in the memories of men who are certain they will not live to see it again.
“Letters From Iwo Jima†is rated R (Under 17 requires accompanying parent or adult guardian). It includes extremely graphic combat violence.
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Libs
Sbil
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Shack wrote: Some awfully random choices in there. Friends With Money? 
Friends with Money was really good actually
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Jonathan
Begging Naked
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