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Joker's Thug #3
Extraordinary
Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 2:36 am Posts: 11130 Location: Waiting for the Dark Knight to kick my ass
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I knew there was a conspiracy here, gawd, im soooo glad Bradley cracked that case.
What would we do without Bradley and his Sherlock Holmes detective skills?

_________________ "People always want to tear you down when you're on top, like Napoleon back in the Roman Empire" - Dirk Diggler
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Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:40 pm |
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Johnny Dollar
The Lubitsch Touch
Joined: Thu Jul 21, 2005 5:48 pm Posts: 11019
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People are abandoning the Children of Men bandwagon?  Line 'em up against the wall. It may be time for a large-scale, old-Soviet-style 'purging', if you catch my drift.
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Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:55 pm |
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Snrub
Vagina Qwertyuiop
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:14 pm Posts: 8767 Location: Great Living Standards
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The true justice would be if the naysayers suddenly found themselves infertile.
Then they could make a film about the plight of the Children of Men naysayers when one of them (Zingaling?) miraculously gets pregnant. They could call it... Children of Children of Men.
Of course, there'd no doubt be naysayers for that film as well... who would in turn face their own infertility crisis. And then, badda-bing badda-boom, Children of Children of Children of Men.
And so on...
Long story short, Children of Men's the best film ever. And I'll castrate anyone who disagrees.
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Sun Feb 11, 2007 8:16 pm |
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Anita Hussein Briem
Yes we can call dibs on the mountain guide
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:47 pm Posts: 3290 Location: Houston
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What a sight, pregnant Zingaling naked. Mmmmm, I'm lovin' it! Da-da-da-da-daaah!
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Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:49 am |
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Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:07 pm Posts: 28301 Location: ... siiiigh...
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I just watched this a second time. Is it possible that I loved it even more? It absolutely is.
What an incredible film. This time, I saw it with my dad, and he loved it too.
A+ is not a high enough grade. There are only ten films that I consider incredible movies, in a league of their own. CoM is very much near the top.
_________________ Ecks Factor: Cancelled too soon
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Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:53 pm |
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Riggs
We had our time together
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:36 am Posts: 13299 Location: Vienna
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What are the other nine movies?
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Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:58 am |
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Box
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:52 am Posts: 25990
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I just saw it. WOW. I can't even begin to tell you all the things that are great about this film. It is so good, so so so goddamn good. I was moved, horrified, touched, etc etc etc. Bah, I'm going to sound like a babbling fool if I go on ranting about it. But basically, it's one of the best movies I have ever seen. It is profoundly touching.
This film should be used as a litmus test, to separate those who love cinema from those who simply don't get it.
A+
Also, this is NOT a sci-film people; it merely extends what is happening in parts of the world, and transfers it to the West. There is nothing in this film that couldn't technically happen in real life, even, yes, the infertility.
Wonder about why its a black girl who gets pregnant, etc.? Aside from the 'humanity is from Africa' thing, whether Cuaron (whom I now adore) intended it or not, I think it basically hints at a real example of infertility. Ok, let me explain:
In Africa, including war ravaged regions from Sierra Leone to the Congo, where the fighting you see in the film has been part of reality for decades, AIDS has has been in the process of wiping out the adult population, leaving those who are very young and very old to take care of each other. Now, let's not go crazy with the infertility parallel here, but, it's true that many of the babies are born with AIDS (unnecessarily). The mothers and fathers soon perish, and the elderly have, at best, a decade or two left to live. This leaves the young kids as the last generation, and many of them don't even make it to adulthood. So, in several villages across Africa, the entire population has been and is likely in the foreseeable future to be wiped out.
Also, nice nods to the miseries of Palestine, Bosnia, and Chechnya. The Muslim and Slav refugees in the war zone are not randomly selected ethnicities...to those people, the images in this film will be nothing new.
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Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:40 pm |
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makeshift
Teenage Dream
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:20 am Posts: 9247
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Box wrote: This film should be used as a litmus test, to separate those who love cinema from those who simply don't get it.
That's ridiculous boxy, and you know it.
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Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:08 am |
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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48677 Location: Arlington, VA
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Box wrote: This film should be used as a litmus test, to separate those who love cinema from those who simply don't get it.
I'm sticking with my B grade.
Forever.
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Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:19 am |
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Jonathan
Begging Naked
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:07 pm Posts: 14737 Location: The Present (Duh)
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Box wrote: This film should be used as a litmus test, to separate those who love cinema from those who simply don't get it.
Because all you've had for this comment is negative feedback, 
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Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:22 am |
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BacktotheFuture
I'm Batman
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:53 pm Posts: 5554 Location: Long Island
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Quote: This film should be used as a litmus test, to separate those who love cinema from those who simply don't get it.

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Sun Feb 18, 2007 3:07 am |
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Riggs
We had our time together
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:36 am Posts: 13299 Location: Vienna
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Libs wrote: Box wrote: This film should be used as a litmus test, to separate those who love cinema from those who simply don't get it.
I'm sticking with my B grade. Forever.
Me too.
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Sun Feb 18, 2007 6:57 am |
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Bradley Witherberry
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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Riggs27 wrote: Libs wrote: Box wrote: This film should be used as a litmus test, to separate those who love cinema from those who simply don't get it.
I'm sticking with my B grade. Forever. Me too.
The litmus test seems to be working...
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Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:39 am |
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Dr Jam
Speed Racer
Joined: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:10 pm Posts: 198
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bradley witherberry wrote: Riggs27 wrote: Libs wrote: Box wrote: This film should be used as a litmus test, to separate those who love cinema from those who simply don't get it.
I'm sticking with my B grade. Forever. Me too. The litmus test seems to be working...
I think "litmus test" is a great phrase for this film.
Not only has it divided film fans, but it's divided them in such a way that each camp just doesn't seem to get the other. I mean, I loved The Night Listener, but, while I was disappointed by the lukewarm response in this forum, I could understand why someone wouldn't like it as much as me. On the other hand, I was a little bit bored (and let down) by Pan's Labyrinth, but didn't lose sight of why someone else might love it.
Now, I really wanted to hate Children of Men, but was astonished by it despite myself. I didn't plan on seeing it because I've overdosed on dystopian sci-fi in my time, and exected a tired rehash of all those Monster-Behind-the-Iron-Curtain themes than just don't seem that relevant anymore. I also didn't want to see it because Snrub liked it and recommended it, and he hates it when I flat out refuse to see his favourite films.
Anyway, I ended up seeing it and thought that it was the best film I'd seen in years. But was surprises me is, I really can't understand in this case why anyone wouldn't like it. I actually went to Rotten Tomatoes and browsed the rare handful of rotten reviews, but just didn't "get" them. What they were saying just didn't seem connected in anyway to the film I saw. And those who find themselves on the other side of the fence, judging by this forum, seem equally exasperated and baffled by those who do - it's like some are taking the overwhelming positive response to it almost personally.
I don't think that it's a touchstone for who "gets" cinema and who doesn't, but it's certainly a good way to gauge whether someone goes to the cinema for the same reason as you. I remember, after seeing The City of Lost Children (which we all loved), one of my friends swore in a moment of fervent devotion that, from then on, he would "vet" potential girlfriends by showing them the film and making sure that they loved it. I'm 99% sure that he never implemented that plan, but still - I think something similar happened to me with Children of Men, in that I think it's a good way of quickly establishing whether someone is on the same cinematic wavelength as me. If I knew that someone didn't like it, I would take his or her film recommendations with a pinch of salt anyway...
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Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:42 am |
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kypade
Kypade
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 10:53 pm Posts: 7908
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Dr Jam wrote: And those who find themselves on the other side of the fence, judging by this forum, seem equally exasperated and baffled by those who do - it's like some are taking the overwhelming positive response to it almost personally. Keeping in mind, the "other side of the fence" in this case is still B+/A-. :O :O :o
Anyway, I'm most surprised that Snrub has smart friends. :up: :o
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Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:50 am |
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Snrub
Vagina Qwertyuiop
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:14 pm Posts: 8767 Location: Great Living Standards
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kypade wrote: Dr Jam wrote: And those who find themselves on the other side of the fence, judging by this forum, seem equally exasperated and baffled by those who do - it's like some are taking the overwhelming positive response to it almost personally. Keeping in mind, the "other side of the fence" in this case is still B+/A-. :O :O :o Anyway, I'm most surprised that Snrub has smart friends. :up: :o
He's not a real doctor, Kypade.
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Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:28 pm |
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Snrub
Vagina Qwertyuiop
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:14 pm Posts: 8767 Location: Great Living Standards
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Box wrote: This film should be used as a litmus test, to separate those who love cinema from those who simply don't get it.
I'd usually take umbrage to this sort of comment. But in the case of Children of Men, I genuinely believe it's true.
Box... make love to me.
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Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:30 pm |
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Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 9:53 am Posts: 13403
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Snrub wrote: kypade wrote: Dr Jam wrote: And those who find themselves on the other side of the fence, judging by this forum, seem equally exasperated and baffled by those who do - it's like some are taking the overwhelming positive response to it almost personally. Keeping in mind, the "other side of the fence" in this case is still B+/A-. :O :O :o Anyway, I'm most surprised that Snrub has smart friends. :up: :o He's not a real doctor, Kypade.
Hmm the doctor did warn us one of your conditions was cronic lying.
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Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:51 pm |
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Box
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:52 am Posts: 25990
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Gullimont wrote: Snrub wrote: kypade wrote: Dr Jam wrote: And those who find themselves on the other side of the fence, judging by this forum, seem equally exasperated and baffled by those who do - it's like some are taking the overwhelming positive response to it almost personally. Keeping in mind, the "other side of the fence" in this case is still B+/A-. :O :O :o Anyway, I'm most surprised that Snrub has smart friends. :up: :o He's not a real doctor, Kypade. Hmm the doctor did warn us one of your conditions was cronic lying. But the doctor forgot to tell you about his own chronic lying Quote: Box... make love to me.

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Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:07 pm |
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Dkmuto
Forum General
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:00 am Posts: 6502
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Nor do I.
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Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:28 pm |
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Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
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Little Mister Sunshine wrote: I have no problems judging people based on their reaction to Children of Men.
Loyal about to engage in a 24 sex orgy with the 5 most beautiful women in the world
Women: Take us now you....................Pleasureboy?
Loyal: Indeed I shall (for the purpose of this post Loyal is a slight snobby nobelman)
Women: Yes help us forget that crap movie we saw before you came.
Loyal: Why what cinematic production was it?
Women: Children of Men
Loyal: (Zips up trousers), I have standards of decency and you ladies are across the line. (turns in a comical manner) Good day to you all.
Walks out door.
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Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:32 pm |
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The Dark Shape
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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I refused to have sex with my girlfriend when she said When a Stranger Calls was a better movie than The Hills Have Eyes. Seriously.
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Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:34 pm |
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Mister Ecks
New Server, Same X
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:07 pm Posts: 28301 Location: ... siiiigh...
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Even snobs find the term "cinematic production" pretentious.
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Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:36 pm |
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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48677 Location: Arlington, VA
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The Dark Shape wrote: I refused to have sex with my girlfriend when she said When a Stranger Calls was a better movie than The Hills Have Eyes. Seriously.
My god
You people act like characters on Desperate Housewives
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Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:37 pm |
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The Dark Shape
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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Libs wrote: The Dark Shape wrote: I refused to have sex with my girlfriend when she said When a Stranger Calls was a better movie than The Hills Have Eyes. Seriously. My god You people act like characters on Desperate Housewives
We're not even together and we still fight about it to this day. It's funny.
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