I knew there was a conspiracy here, gawd, im soooo glad Bradley cracked that case.

What would we do without Bradley and his Sherlock Holmes detective skills?

People are abandoning the Children of Men bandwagon? Line 'em up against the wall. It may be time for a large-scale, old-Soviet-style 'purging', if you catch my drift.

The true justice would be if the naysayers suddenly found themselves infertile.

Then they could make a film about the plight of the Children of Men naysayers when one of them (Zingaling?) miraculously gets pregnant. They could call it... Children of Children of Men.

Of course, there'd no doubt be naysayers for that film as well... who would in turn face their own infertility crisis. And then, badda-bing badda-boom, Children of Children of Children of Men.

And so on...

Long story short, Children of Men's the best film ever. And I'll castrate anyone who disagrees.

What a sight, pregnant Zingaling naked. Mmmmm, I'm lovin' it! Da-da-da-da-daaah!

I just watched this a second time. Is it possible that I loved it even more? It absolutely is.

What an incredible film. This time, I saw it with my dad, and he loved it too.

A+ is not a high enough grade. There are only ten films that I consider incredible movies, in a league of their own. CoM is very much near the top.

What are the other nine movies?

I just saw it. WOW. I can't even begin to tell you all the things that are great about this film. It is so good, so so so goddamn good. I was moved, horrified, touched, etc etc etc. Bah, I'm going to sound like a babbling fool if I go on ranting about it. But basically, it's one of the best movies I have ever seen. It is profoundly touching.


This film should be used as a litmus test, to separate those who love cinema from those who simply don't get it.

A+


Also, this is NOT a sci-film people; it merely extends what is happening in parts of the world, and transfers it to the West. There is nothing in this film that couldn't technically happen in real life, even, yes, the infertility.

Wonder about why its a black girl who gets pregnant, etc.? Aside from the 'humanity is from Africa' thing, whether Cuaron (whom I now adore) intended it or not, I think it basically hints at a real example of infertility. Ok, let me explain:

In Africa, including war ravaged regions from Sierra Leone to the Congo, where the fighting you see in the film has been part of reality for decades, AIDS has has been in the process of wiping out the adult population, leaving those who are very young and very old to take care of each other. Now, let's not go crazy with the infertility parallel here, but, it's true that many of the babies are born with AIDS (unnecessarily). The mothers and fathers soon perish, and the elderly have, at best, a decade or two left to live. This leaves the young kids as the last generation, and many of them don't even make it to adulthood. So, in several villages across Africa, the entire population has been and is likely in the foreseeable future to be wiped out.

Also, nice nods to the miseries of Palestine, Bosnia, and Chechnya. The Muslim and Slav refugees in the war zone are not randomly selected ethnicities...to those people, the images in this film will be nothing new.

That's ridiculous boxy, and you know it.

I'm sticking with my B grade.

Forever.

Because all you've had for this comment is negative feedback,

Me too.

The litmus test seems to be working...

I think "litmus test" is a great phrase for this film.

Not only has it divided film fans, but it's divided them in such a way that each camp just doesn't seem to get the other. I mean, I loved The Night Listener, but, while I was disappointed by the lukewarm response in this forum, I could understand why someone wouldn't like it as much as me. On the other hand, I was a little bit bored (and let down) by Pan's Labyrinth, but didn't lose sight of why someone else might love it.

Now, I really wanted to hate Children of Men, but was astonished by it despite myself. I didn't plan on seeing it because I've overdosed on dystopian sci-fi in my time, and exected a tired rehash of all those Monster-Behind-the-Iron-Curtain themes than just don't seem that relevant anymore. I also didn't want to see it because Snrub liked it and recommended it, and he hates it when I flat out refuse to see his favourite films.

Anyway, I ended up seeing it and thought that it was the best film I'd seen in years. But was surprises me is, I really can't understand in this case why anyone wouldn't like it. I actually went to Rotten Tomatoes and browsed the rare handful of rotten reviews, but just didn't "get" them. What they were saying just didn't seem connected in anyway to the film I saw. And those who find themselves on the other side of the fence, judging by this forum, seem equally exasperated and baffled by those who do - it's like some are taking the overwhelming positive response to it almost personally.

I don't think that it's a touchstone for who "gets" cinema and who doesn't, but it's certainly a good way to gauge whether someone goes to the cinema for the same reason as you. I remember, after seeing The City of Lost Children (which we all loved), one of my friends swore in a moment of fervent devotion that, from then on, he would "vet" potential girlfriends by showing them the film and making sure that they loved it. I'm 99% sure that he never implemented that plan, but still - I think something similar happened to me with Children of Men, in that I think it's a good way of quickly establishing whether someone is on the same cinematic wavelength as me. If I knew that someone didn't like it, I would take his or her film recommendations with a pinch of salt anyway...

Keeping in mind, the "other side of the fence" in this case is still B+/A-. :O :O :o

Anyway, I'm most surprised that Snrub has smart friends. :up: :o

He's not a real doctor, Kypade.

I'd usually take umbrage to this sort of comment. But in the case of Children of Men, I genuinely believe it's true.

Box... make love to me.

Hmm the doctor did warn us one of your conditions was cronic lying.

But the doctor forgot to tell you about his own chronic lying

Nor do I.

Loyal about to engage in a 24 sex orgy with the 5 most beautiful women in the world

Women: Take us now you....................Pleasureboy?
Loyal: Indeed I shall (for the purpose of this post Loyal is a slight snobby nobelman)
Women: Yes help us forget that crap movie we saw before you came.
Loyal: Why what cinematic production was it?
Women: Children of Men
Loyal: (Zips up trousers), I have standards of decency and you ladies are across the line. (turns in a comical manner) Good day to you all.

Walks out door.

I refused to have sex with my girlfriend when she said When a Stranger Calls was a better movie than The Hills Have Eyes. Seriously.

Even snobs find the term "cinematic production" pretentious.

My god

You people act like characters on Desperate Housewives

We're not even together and we still fight about it to this day. It's funny.