superman returns predictons
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neo_wolf
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
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revolutions wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbL7f_6Zv6E 

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Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:06 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
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Gee?? It's as though Owen Glieberman when he reviewed this movie didn't exactly show much confidence in the movie and it almost read like he was Apologizing for it in the event it doesn't do well.. I really love this quote which is sure to kill this movie:
Routh, it must be said, isn't nearly as nimble a comedian as the hulking yet light-footed Reeve, who made Clark a figure of fun, playing up the way this office dweeb was really an actor, and carrying a hint of that amused spark over to his portrayal of Superman as well. Routh, who actually resembles a tall, buff Jason Schwartzman, lacks that authority; he's virtually the same age as Reeve was when Reeve first played the part, but Routh's Superman isn't quite a man  he's closer to an eager adolescent.
Jason Schwartzman as SUPERMAN..
By the way, I also added my 2 cents in at the bottom of Glieberman's review to..
LEX_BKB- Thu, Jun 22, 2006 at 1:13 AM EDT
This Review didn't exactly knock my socks off to rush out and see this and it's almost a review that reads with very little confidence and like it's apologizing in the event this doesn't do well.. Those predicting 250 Million are smoking something cause I'm not seeing it or anyone outside the internet wanting to see this..
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:17 am |
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Eventine
Too Brilliant for Introductions
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Invasion has occured.
http://supermanreturns.warnerbros.com/
Lex Luthor was here.
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:24 am |
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Eventine
Too Brilliant for Introductions
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:05 am |
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Excel
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lOl.appearently many people showed up to tonights premiere.
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:35 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
The Greatest Avenger EVER
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excel wrote: lOl.appearently many people showed up to tonights premiere.
And are still flipping a coin as to whether they should blast the movie or not but fear of being Sued by WB if they do..
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:12 am |
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Erendis
Indiana Jones IV
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I can't seem to shake the Ronald McDonald and King Kong comparisons. For all its great WOM and good RT rating of 84%, KK still couldn't break out; nobody wanted another KK movie. That is, KK had only a small esoteric dedicated fanbase, and almost no casual fanbase. (We could argue over the definition of Fanbase.)
SR is going to be a real measure of the fanbase. The dedicated comic-book fanbase will flock to SR, there is no dispute about that. The question is, what kind of casual fanbase is there? Are they fans the same way people are fans of Ronald McDonald (that is, not fans at all)? Are they genuinely interested in paying to watch Superman? Or is the very existance of the Superman movie enough for now, and they can wait until video?
The other problem is that the fanbase, outside the comic-book crowd, seems to skew high and low in the age range -- older fans who remember Reeve, and their children who begged for the underoos. For teens, the primary WOM-spreaders, Superman just seems too square, and any kind of love triangle (involving a kid) will turn them off. That's assuming they can tear their eyes away from Jack Sparrow for a moment.
I think Superman will share the same fate as KK, unless all this manufactured awareness can be converted into bankable demand from the casual fanbase. So far, the marketing has been little more than "Hey, I'm Superman, you're supposed to watch me. " And KK shows us that good reviews aren't enough. Should be interesting to watch.
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:05 am |
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
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Erendis wrote: I can't seem to shake the Ronald McDonald and King Kong comparisons. For all its great WOM and good RT rating of 84%, KK still couldn't break out; nobody wanted another KK movie. That is, KK had only a small esoteric dedicated fanbase, and almost no casual fanbase. (We could argue over the definition of Fanbase.)
SR is going to be a real measure of the fanbase. The dedicated comic-book fanbase will flock to SR, there is no dispute about that. The question is, what kind of casual fanbase is there? Are they fans the same way people are fans of Ronald McDonald (that is, not fans at all)? Are they genuinely interested in paying to watch Superman? Or is the very existance of the Superman movie enough for now, and they can wait until video?
The other problem is that the fanbase, outside the comic-book crowd, seems to skew high and low in the age range -- older fans who remember Reeve, and their children who begged for the underoos. For teens, the primary WOM-spreaders, Superman just seems too square, and any kind of love triangle (involving a kid) will turn them off. That's assuming they can tear their eyes away from Jack Sparrow for a moment.
I think Superman will share the same fate as KK, unless all this manufactured awareness can be converted into bankable demand from the casual fanbase. So far, the marketing has been little more than "Hey, I'm Superman, you're supposed to watch me. " And KK shows us that good reviews aren't enough. Should be interesting to watch.
Which is why ive been predicting King Kong numbers for this for a long time now. $180-$230m. Which would be good IMO (though not considering the budget)
BTW Erendis - love your sig 
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 9:23 am |
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lesterg
Indiana Jones IV
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Front page of Yahoo right now: "Rumors fly that new Superman is gay".
LOL, someone at WB must be having an aneurism right about now...
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:17 am |
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Rolling Thunder
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lesterg wrote: Front page of Yahoo right now: "Rumors fly that new Superman is gay".
LOL, someone at WB must be having an aneurism right about now...
Oddly, I think such ridiculousness can only help the B.O. prospects. 
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:21 am |
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lesterg
Indiana Jones IV
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Rolling Thunder wrote: lesterg wrote: Front page of Yahoo right now: "Rumors fly that new Superman is gay".
LOL, someone at WB must be having an aneurism right about now... Oddly, I think such ridiculousness can only help the B.O. prospects. 
Yeah, it's really going to help to bring in your average teenage boy (who are usually so secure in their sexuality) especially considering a great number of them already consider Superman a little lame.
WB wouldn't be denying, denying, denying if they weren't scared of that tag. Hell, they'd encourage people to write about the Apt Pupil lawsuit if that was the case.
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:26 am |
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Captain Muha
Indiana Jones IV
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superman = lame????
wtf?!
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 10:45 am |
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Biggestgeekever
I heet the canadian!
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Don't know if this has been posted yet, but BOM has raised the estimated number of theaters for SR to 3,900+!
BOM Theater Counts
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:14 pm |
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Excel
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yeah, that would be for wednesday. it should be expanding on friday...what is the opening record? like 4100?
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:52 pm |
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Tuukka
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Well, it's one week to the opening... What kind of marketing is there in USA? TV spots?
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:53 pm |
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Eventine
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excel wrote: yeah, that would be for wednesday. it should be expanding on friday...what is the opening record? like 4100?
It's not necessary to expand it on Friday if it's already in over 4,000 theaters, really.
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:55 pm |
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Excel
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Yeah, ive seen quite a few tv spots. nba finals and world cup, and then just random ones on mtv and the big news channels(abc nbc cvs)
they also got a huge huge huge tv campaign:
June 19: Brandon on Sunrise (morning talk show)
June 19: HBO First Look
June 20: Brandon on Today Show
June 20: Brandon on Letterman
June 22: Kevin on Leno
June 22: James Marsden on Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson
June 23: Bravo "Scanning the Movies: Superman Returns"
June 23: MTV "Back in Blue: Superman Returns Movie Special"
June 24/25: Ebert and Roeper review Superman Returns
June 25: CBS Morning News "Superman Returns" segment
June 25: Kevin on Entertainers with Byron Allen
June 25: TVGuideChannel "Superman Returns: Inside the Journey"
June 25: Starz The Hollywood Reporter "Comic Books On Film"
June 25: HBOAsia "Big Preview" (possibly different cut then HBO USA?)
June 25: Discovery Channel "Science of Superman"
June 25: SR Cast on Weekend Sunrise (morning talk show)
June 26: Kevin on Today Show
June 26: Biography Channel Christopher Reeve (possibly SR content?)
June 26: Kate on Leno
June 26: Kevin on Letterman
June 27: Brandon on Regis and Kelly
June 28: Kate on Today Show
June 28: Kate on Regis and Kelly
June 28: Kevin on Conan
June 29: National Geographic Channel "Science of Superman"
June 29: Kevin on Daily Show with Jon Stewart
June 30: Entire SR Cast on The View
June 30: Kate on Conan
plus mtv, tv guide, and geo. making-of-specials yet to air.
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:56 pm |
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Excel
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Eventine wrote: excel wrote: yeah, that would be for wednesday. it should be expanding on friday...what is the opening record? like 4100? It's not necessary to expand it on Friday if it's already in over 4,000 theaters, really.
batman begins expanded from 3718 to 3858.
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 5:59 pm |
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Eventine
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But it wasn't at over 4,000 theaters. 
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:00 pm |
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Webslinger
why so serious?
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I seriously doubt it will expand on Friday if it does go into over 4,000 theatres in Wednesday.
Less than a week to go! 
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:28 pm |
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Eventine
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Can't wait for next Wednesday's numbers. 
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:29 pm |
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Webslinger
why so serious?
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Eventine wrote: Can't wait for next Wednesday's numbers. 
Yeah, but our buddy for BOM has put his low-end predict for Wednesday at $25 million, so we probably won't get to fully enjoy it.
And to hell with the numbers, I want to see the movie!
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:45 pm |
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Excel
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movie>box office
any day.
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:48 pm |
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Excel
Superfreak
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movie>box office
any day.
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Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:48 pm |
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