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makeshift
Teenage Dream
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:20 am Posts: 9247
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 Re: The KJ snob/elitist club
BJ wrote: Top 10 Films Of 2008 1. The Dark Knight 2. WALL-E 3. Iron-Man 4. In Bruges 5. Cloverfield 6. Tropic Thunder 7. Let the Right One In 8. Twilight 9. The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian 10. Sex Drive
Top 6 Directors of All Time 1. Quentin Tarantino 2. Stanley Kubrick 3. Martin Scorsese 4. James Cameron 5. Sidney Lumet 6. Christopher Nolan
Top 5 Films of All Time 1. Star Wars Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) 2. Pulp Fiction (1994) 3. The Dark Knight (2008) 4. Whale Rider (2003) 5. Network (1977) I have to be honest BJ, your application didn't inspire the immediate gag reflex I was expecting when I saw that you had posted in this thread. Small victories, my friend. Small victories. However, Overrated Summer Blockbuster B, Iron Man, Cloverfield, Tropic Thunder, Twilight, The Chronicles of Narnia (seriously? what the fuck), and Sex Drive reads more like a list of movies you'd take your grandparents to (y'know, cause they like it when things move and stuff) instead of a top ten. I'm honestly getting a little sick of Stanley Kubrick's esteemed name being sandwich in with no-talent hacks, and any list dealing with anything that begins with anything related to Star Wars is an automatic waste of time. Denied.
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trixster
loyalfromlondon
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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 Re: The KJ snob/elitist club
makeshift wrote: I'm honestly getting a little sick of Stanley Kubrick's esteemed name being sandwich in with no-talent hacks Seriously. I'm wondering if you guys have actually seen any Kubrick films, or if you're just throwing his name in here because you know that we love him. Regardless, it's the lowest form of pandering (especially since most of you seem unable to even guess one of Kubrick's films), and it's disgusting.
_________________Magic Mike wrote: zwackerm wrote: If John Wick 2 even makes 30 million I will eat 1,000 shoes. Same. Algren wrote: I don't think. I predict. 
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: The KJ snob/elitist club
I wanted to see his Napolean... 
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:51 pm |
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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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 Re: The KJ snob/elitist club
trixster wrote: makeshift wrote: I'm honestly getting a little sick of Stanley Kubrick's esteemed name being sandwich in with no-talent hacks Seriously. I'm wondering if you guys have actually seen any Kubrick films, or if you're just throwing his name in here because you know that we love him. Regardless, it's the lowest form of pandering (especially since most of you seem unable to even guess one of Kubrick's films), and it's disgusting. 2001? Love it Dr. Strangelove? Love it A Clockwork Orange? Love it The Shining? Love it Full Metal Jacket? Love it Spartacus? Love it
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trixster
loyalfromlondon
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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 Re: The KJ snob/elitist club
Libs wrote: trixster wrote: makeshift wrote: I'm honestly getting a little sick of Stanley Kubrick's esteemed name being sandwich in with no-talent hacks Seriously. I'm wondering if you guys have actually seen any Kubrick films, or if you're just throwing his name in here because you know that we love him. Regardless, it's the lowest form of pandering (especially since most of you seem unable to even guess one of Kubrick's films), and it's disgusting. 2001? Love it Dr. Strangelove? Love it A Clockwork Orange? Love it The Shining? Love it Full Metal Jacket? Love it Spartacus? Love it Yes, but the lack of any of those films in your top ten is telling.
_________________Magic Mike wrote: zwackerm wrote: If John Wick 2 even makes 30 million I will eat 1,000 shoes. Same. Algren wrote: I don't think. I predict. 
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:53 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: The KJ snob/elitist club
trixster wrote: Libs wrote: trixster wrote: makeshift wrote: I'm honestly getting a little sick of Stanley Kubrick's esteemed name being sandwich in with no-talent hacks Seriously. I'm wondering if you guys have actually seen any Kubrick films, or if you're just throwing his name in here because you know that we love him. Regardless, it's the lowest form of pandering (especially since most of you seem unable to even guess one of Kubrick's films), and it's disgusting. 2001? Love it Dr. Strangelove? Love it A Clockwork Orange? Love it The Shining? Love it Full Metal Jacket? Love it Spartacus? Love it Yes, but the lack of any of those films in your top ten is telling. You mean Top 5.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:55 pm |
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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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 Re: The KJ snob/elitist club
trixster wrote: Libs wrote: trixster wrote: makeshift wrote: I'm honestly getting a little sick of Stanley Kubrick's esteemed name being sandwich in with no-talent hacks Seriously. I'm wondering if you guys have actually seen any Kubrick films, or if you're just throwing his name in here because you know that we love him. Regardless, it's the lowest form of pandering (especially since most of you seem unable to even guess one of Kubrick's films), and it's disgusting. 2001? Love it Dr. Strangelove? Love it A Clockwork Orange? Love it The Shining? Love it Full Metal Jacket? Love it Spartacus? Love it Yes, but the lack of any of those films in your top ten is telling. So the fact I think he's one of the best directors but one of his movies doesn't lie in my top 10 (I'd say at least two of them would be in my top twenty, if that somehow "makes it better") means I'm "pandering" and "throwing his name in there"? That is ridiculous.
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:57 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: The KJ snob/elitist club
Clockwork and 2001 are numbers #10 and 11 in my Top 100.
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:59 pm |
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trixster
loyalfromlondon
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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 Re: The KJ snob/elitist club
Hey, this is the snob/elitist club. Not the James Berardinelli fan club, where we all pat each other on the back for having seen so many old movies.
_________________Magic Mike wrote: zwackerm wrote: If John Wick 2 even makes 30 million I will eat 1,000 shoes. Same. Algren wrote: I don't think. I predict. 
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:00 pm |
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: The KJ snob/elitist club
18 of my Top 50 I would classify as "old".
That's not a lot at all
_________________trixster wrote: shut the fuck up zwackerm, you're out of your fucking element trixster wrote: chippy is correct
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:03 pm |
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska
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 Re: The KJ snob/elitist club
makeshift wrote: BJ wrote: Top 10 Films Of 2008 1. The Dark Knight 2. WALL-E 3. Iron-Man 4. In Bruges 5. Cloverfield 6. Tropic Thunder 7. Let the Right One In 8. Twilight 9. The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian 10. Sex Drive
Top 6 Directors of All Time 1. Quentin Tarantino 2. Stanley Kubrick 3. Martin Scorsese 4. James Cameron 5. Sidney Lumet 6. Christopher Nolan
Top 5 Films of All Time 1. Star Wars Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) 2. Pulp Fiction (1994) 3. The Dark Knight (2008) 4. Whale Rider (2003) 5. Network (1977) I have to be honest BJ, your application didn't inspire the immediate gag reflex I was expecting when I saw that you had posted in this thread. Small victories, my friend. Small victories. However, Overrated Summer Blockbuster B, Iron Man, Cloverfield, Tropic Thunder, Twilight, The Chronicles of Narnia (seriously? what the fuck), and Sex Drive reads more like a list of movies you'd take your grandparents to (y'know, cause they like it when things move and stuff) instead of a top ten. I'm honestly getting a little sick of Stanley Kubrick's esteemed name being sandwich in with no-talent hacks, and any list dealing with anything that begins with anything related to Star Wars is an automatic waste of time. Denied. I have not watched any of the high quality films that have come out in the last two months yet, but allas the top 10 will look tolerable soon, your dislike for Iron-Man is fewlish. I have only seen three Kubrick films, Clockwork Orange, Full Metal Jacket, and Eyes Wide Shut, not enough for me to put him #1 but with many other Kubrick films on my list I would not be surprised if he topped QT.
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:04 pm |
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska
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 Re: The KJ snob/elitist club
trixster wrote: makeshift wrote: I'm honestly getting a little sick of Stanley Kubrick's esteemed name being sandwich in with no-talent hacks Seriously. I'm wondering if you guys have actually seen any Kubrick films, or if you're just throwing his name in here because you know that we love him. Regardless, it's the lowest form of pandering (especially since most of you seem unable to even guess one of Kubrick's films), and it's disgusting. Tis not pandering if the man is great.
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:06 pm |
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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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 Re: The KJ snob/elitist club
trixster wrote: Hey, this is the snob/elitist club. Not the James Berardinelli fan club, where we all pat each other on the back for having seen so many old movies. But I would like clarification! I, along with everyone else who named Stanley Kubrick, was essentially called out for pandering and accused of lying about my appreciation for him. This thread might be all in good fun but that's not sitting right with me.
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:07 pm |
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trixster
loyalfromlondon
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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 Re: The KJ snob/elitist club
Seriously, guys. You need to stop getting so hot and bothered about this. You call us 'film snobs', using that term as a derogatory insult to refer to those of us who apparently don't like being entertained (?), and then when we embrace that mentality, you all want to join! And then we when shoot you down for not being snobbish enough, you take offense!
Don't reply if you don't want to be snarkily attacked.
_________________Magic Mike wrote: zwackerm wrote: If John Wick 2 even makes 30 million I will eat 1,000 shoes. Same. Algren wrote: I don't think. I predict. 
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:08 pm |
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DIB2
All Star Poster
Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:57 am Posts: 4669 Location: Anchorage, AK
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Top 10 Films Of 2008 1.The Dark Knight 2.Frost/Nixon 3.Iron Man 4.Cloverfield 5.Tropic Thunder 6. Wall-E 7.Twilight 8.The Chronicles of Narnia: Prince Caspian 9.Speed Racer 10.Sex Drive
Top 6 Directors of All Time 1. Sergio Leone 2. Stanley Kubrick 3. Quentin Tarantino 4. James Cameron 5. Christopher Nolan 6. Martin Scorsese
Top 6 Films of All Time 1. Pulp Fiction (1994) 2. Star Wars Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) 3. Buono, Il Brutto, Il Cattivo, Il (The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly) 4. Jurassic Park 5. Terminator 2: Judgment day 6. Blade Runner
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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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 Re: The KJ snob/elitist club
trixster wrote: Seriously, guys. You need to stop getting so hot and bothered about this. You call us 'film snobs', using that term as a derogatory insult to refer to those of us who apparently don't like being entertained (?), and then when we embrace that mentality, you all want to join! And then we when shoot you down for not being snobbish enough, you take offense!
Don't reply if you don't want to be snarkily attacked. I'm not taking offense with the "judge people's movie taste" aspect. I'm taking offense with how you implied we were exaggerating/lying about our movie tastes to impress you. What gives you the right to do that? That's not what this thread is about. I certainly don't think I need to lie when my top 10 includes movies like Clueless and When Harry Met Sally, which you would undoubtedly tell me I should be shot for including or something.
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:17 pm |
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makeshift
Teenage Dream
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:20 am Posts: 9247
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 Re: The KJ snob/elitist club
Shack wrote: Top 10 of 2008 1. Snow Angels 2. Cloverfield 3. The Dark Knight 4. Funny Games 5. Man on Wire 6. Vicky Cristina Barcelona 7. Burn After Reading 8. In Bruges 9. Happy-Go-Lucky 10. Synechdoche, New York
Top 4 Directors Stanley Kubrick Alfred Hitchcock James Cameron David Lynch
I also bring to the attention of the elitist club my immense hatred of one Steven Spielberg. I think Raiders of the Lost Ark, Schindler's List, AND Saving Private Ryan are massively overrated.
Top 5 1. Zoolander 2. All About Eve 3. Moulin Rouge 4. The Princess Bride 5. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind Shack, This is an interesting situation for me. We've had some fairly heated movie-related arguments in the past, and it seems readily clear that we don't see eye to eye. However, you have displayed a fair amount of good taste, and occasionally surprise me with your thoughtful analysis of certain films. Your top ten is hit and miss. The inclusions of Happy-Go-Lucky and Synechdoche, New York (perhaps the de facto snob movie of the year) are intriguing, but once again Overrated Summer Blockbuster A is included, and the baffling love for Cloverfield continues. I'd say I'm leaning slightly towards a positive reaction to it, but that could easily be swayed into negative territory once a couple of those movies inevitably end up in the chopping block. I'm disappointed you've decided to not list a full five directors. I don't know if this was merely an oversight, or if you're trying to mask something. It's a solid, if not overly original or surprising list, but the inclusion of James Cameron is simultaneously baffling and infuriating, especially considering the company he is in. Your top 5 is a different beast altogether, and frankly I'm a bit surprised by how borderline awful it is. I'd only consider one of those movies an acceptable title (All About Eve), and still find that one to be slightly overrated. Your undying affection for Zoolander is depressing. I also tend to agree with Yoshue's comments about your Spielberg hatred. While I am definitely part of the Spielberg is vastly overrated and the majority of his work is mediocrity sprinkled with occassional moments of brilliance club, to just out-and-out ignore the fact that he has made some supremely masterful movies seems like a giant misstep. I don't know, this is a tough decision. I will allow my co-chairman to respond, and then we will discuss this application.
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trixster
loyalfromlondon
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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 Re: The KJ snob/elitist club
Libs wrote: trixster wrote: Seriously, guys. You need to stop getting so hot and bothered about this. You call us 'film snobs', using that term as a derogatory insult to refer to those of us who apparently don't like being entertained (?), and then when we embrace that mentality, you all want to join! And then we when shoot you down for not being snobbish enough, you take offense!
Don't reply if you don't want to be snarkily attacked. I'm not taking offense with the "judge people's movie taste" aspect. I'm taking offense with how you implied we were exaggerating/lying about our movie tastes to impress you. What gives you the right to do that? That's not what this thread is about. I certainly don't think I need to lie when my top 10 includes movies like Clueless and When Harry Met Sally, which you would undoubtedly tell me I should be shot for including or something. It's called sarcasm? All of my replies here have been in good fun. I don't actually think you people are lying about your love of Kubrick, it was just something I noticed and I though it would stir up some controversy. Which evidently it has. It's just that sarcasm loses a lot of its flavour when you have to constantly explain yourself.
_________________Magic Mike wrote: zwackerm wrote: If John Wick 2 even makes 30 million I will eat 1,000 shoes. Same. Algren wrote: I don't think. I predict. 
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:24 pm |
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trixster
loyalfromlondon
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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ANYWAYS, back on track.
Shack, great top 10, solid directors, rather lame films. I think your taste is only getting better, so I'd be inclined to include you. I'll have to discuss this with my co-chairman, though.
_________________Magic Mike wrote: zwackerm wrote: If John Wick 2 even makes 30 million I will eat 1,000 shoes. Same. Algren wrote: I don't think. I predict. 
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:26 pm |
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snack
Extraordinary
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 9:18 pm Posts: 12159
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I mostly included Kubrick besides it sounds like kypade. and also because of strangelove, clockwork, and lyndon, but still mostly kypade.
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:26 pm |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40604
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Oh I thought you asked for a top 4... seems like that's what the rest were posting
#5 would be uhhhhhhh Tarantino. sry.
If it makes you feel better I love Jaws and quite like ET among the Berg's early repetoire. I don't have as much qualms with Raiders as I do much of his films recently, though it is not zomg.
For the record a number of close calls in the top 5 would be "snobyz": Alien, Halloween, Dr. Strangelove, Mulholland Drive, Rear Window, Psycho, Sunrise, The Big Lebowski, I'm Not There
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:29 pm |
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makeshift
Teenage Dream
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:20 am Posts: 9247
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 Re: The KJ snob/elitist club
Shack wrote: #5 would be uhhhhhhh Tarantino. sry. You should have left it at four. Quote: For the record a number of close calls in the top 5 would be "snobyz": Alien, Halloween, Dr. Strangelove, Mulholland Drive, Rear Window, Psycho, Sunrise, The Big Lebowski, I'm Not There I would have preferred to see virtually any of these listed as opposed to what we currently have.
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:34 pm |
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makeshift
Teenage Dream
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:20 am Posts: 9247
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 Re: The KJ snob/elitist club
After three PMs much deliberation, we have decided to grant Shack allowance into the society. Understand that this was highly contested and very close, and the overriding factor we returned to was that your taste has gotten markedly better over the years, and you seem to be actively trying to become a full-fledged snob.
Welcome!
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:39 pm |
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kypade
Kypade
Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 10:53 pm Posts: 7908
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 Re: The KJ snob/elitist club
I think you are being inconsistent in your acceptance and denials.
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Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:45 pm |
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The Dark Shape
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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 Re: The KJ snob/elitist club
makeshift wrote: trixster wrote: The Dark Shape wrote: I enjoy being critiqued.
Top Ten of 2008 (so far...):
1. The Dark Knight 2. Let the Right One In 3. Wall-E 4. Forgetting Sarah Marshall 5. Iron Man 6. Funny Games 7. The Strangers 8. Burn After Reading 9. Cloverfield 10. Hellboy II: The Golden Army
Top Five Directors:
1. Stanley Kubrick 2. Alfonso Cuaron 3. John Carpenter 4. Quentin Tarantino 5. Guillermo del Toro
Top Five of All-Time:
1. Halloween 2. The Exorcist 3. The Shining 4. Pan's Labyrinth 5. Black Christmas I appreciate your love of horror, and this is aptly reflected with your inclusion of Let the Right One In and The Strangers in your top ten. But when you also include a triumvirate of vastly overrated films (Animated-POS-That-Shall-Not-Be-Named, Forgetting Sarah Marshall, and Iron Man) in your top five, that has to be taken into account. I get the sense that people are including Kubrick just so they'll be taken seriously, especially when they neglect to mention THE BEST MOVIE OF ALL TIME in their top five. Not to say The Shining isn't deserving (it certainly is), but Pan's Labyrinth? Really? Of all-time? I love Cuaron and del Toro as much as the next guy, but I don't think they're experienced or, frankly, talented enough to be listed as top five directors of all-time. And Carpenter and QT are both wildly overrated fanboy directors. Also, remembering your blind and irrational dismissal of one of the greatest films ever made, The Night of the Hunter, I just can't bring myself to allow you in. So, sorry, I'm going to have to agree with makeshift and say no. I forgot about this.  I should point out that I've watched Night of the Hunter three times since I posted that and have pulled a complete 180° on the movie. I say this so that you'll take me seriously in future film discussions.
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