Doesnt speak so hot for a sequel.

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If you haven't noticed, the budgets are getting bigger and bigger each year. You think that in three years, the Superman sequel will cost less than the original? C'mon.

I do think there will be a sequel, but I think the reception to SR doesnt speak well for the sequel to do any better then SR, maybe even worse. It needed to be around X2's level to make an impact on the sequel. 225m would probably be the ceiling and thats if they put out a damn fine movie.

Yeah, a budget of 150m for a big blockbuster these days is basically normal, 3 years from now, 200m will probably be the norm.

Exactly, thats why there is still a chance that there will be no sequel, atleast there wont be one for many years. I'd really be surprised with 09', im thinking atleast 2010. It might be difficult to make a Superman movie without a high budget.

Didn't the budget for Superman Returns include the budgets for all of the failed Superman projects during the 90's?

09' is a while away, who knows what films that have in store.

srs budget was only 180. it went over budget. whats to say the same wouldnt happen with a 150 million budget?

if they made a really great movie that was more in vien of spiderman, and released during christmas, id say its got a great chance at doing doing 250 million.

after friday all this sequel talk to will end. well know whats up or not.

Budget was atleast 200m, not 180. I'll go by what BOM had with 260m though, not what WB would like you to belive after the movie did below expectations.

theyve been saying since may the budget was greenlighted at 184 million buttotal coston the movie was 204.5 million and total cost on superman 5-including investments form previous films-is 261 million. thats from wbs MOUTH. ask box office mojo about it and they will tell you their 260 million is 50 million+ from previous investments.

If the budget is $204.5 million, then don't say "srs budget wuz 180" because it wasn't.

theres a differece between cost and budget. a budgets what your supposed to spend. cost is what you do spend.

Unless they decide to destroy every single set used in Returns and rebuild them from scratch, fire Singer and the screenwriters and go through the same process that took 11 years (When Jon Peters obtained the rights) to find the right director and team, and then spend money on DVD releases and DVD re-leases to relaunch the character's name into the public again, even with the success of Smallville, then well yeah, it should pretty much be less.

And if it isn't, ticket prices should be up by what 75c-$1.50 more than they are now?

I think the SR sequel will got he wy of the Hulk sequel, where they keep on saying "We have it planned, we're just working on an outline" for years. Its not like SR let people begging for a sequel (besides Superman fanboys) the way they were for BB, even if that had more of a "Gimme sequel" ending. Despite really enjoying the new one, I have no real desire to see another Superman movie.

I don't think we'll be seeing a Superman Returns sequel, not with the way it failed budget-wise. If anything, it'll be a reattempt with a new cast and director like the upcoming Hulk movie, not a continuation of Singer's. What'd be the point, so you could spend another 200 mil+ to get 150 mil domestic? Might as well try something that might make you some money.

Two things. One, It'll get about $50-$60 million more than $150 million.

Second, the reason you mentioned is exactly why there will be a sequel. Warner Brothers - unless they enjoy torture - probably do not want to go through development hell again for another decade. They have a team set right now that got the characters names back out on screen. Why would they waste money again on trying to find a new one? That would only inflate the budget more, just like with this film. They have a good start with sets so they don't have to start from scratch (The Daily Planet, The Fortress of Solitude and the interior of his house in Smallville, including the one in the city they didn't use) plus advantages with green screen. They'll also film the sequel in Australia and once again recieve a giant tax break. If you thought the budget was big now, it would be much higher if it were filmed here in America.

And unless the film is mostly a drama, the film should be a bigger success. There should be enough action in the second one to make audiences even more pleased, now that they have the story set in place.

You're too funny.

You don't think Batman, Spider-Man, and Superman can all succeed within a five year period?

Any money Superman was going to make for the WB is a success for them, simply because of the time it took to launch the film. So far going into it's fourth week $165 million made with a re-launch, and with the competition from Pirates isn't horrible, especially since the budget is just a stone's throw over $200. The other $56 has been out of WB's pocket's for some years now.

Also, when has WB mentioned a sequel? It's not damage control when they don't say anything regarding the movie. I don't think they've said anything about a sequel yet, good or bad, seeing as I think that THZ rumor is bullshit. It's only in the middle of it's third week.

How about they release Superman II: The Adventure Continues by Richard Donner. We could finally see the great sequel to the amazing Superman movie, not the crappy Richard Lester version. According to reports it was about 80%. I've always wanted to see the actual Superman II and I'm sure a lot of Superman fans are too. It could even bring in the fans that were around during the original Superman. It would be a sure fire hit. Superman nostalga + seeing Christopher Reeves again + original Superman II with no major theme clashes + little to no production cost = big bucks for WB. My dream will probably never be fullfilled but I can always hope.

I think it's a good idea, but it depends on how complete the film is. But besides internet fans, I'm not sure if the general public would be interested in this, seeing as the general public really doesn't know/give a shit about the production difficulties Superman II had.

If you listen to Excel and any rabid SR Fanboy, they'll tell ya WB has already greenlit a sequel.. Just go to superherohype.. That forum is practically on suicide watch over this movie's dismal performance..

I just scrolled over the Superman forum there. Where are they panicking? Back on the first pages of the box-office threads from three weeks ago when the film didn't live up to their unrealistic $250+ predictions?

actually jmart, bryan singer is going to comic ocn on friday to discuss the sequel.