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Rev
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FUCK YEAH!!!!!!!!!! 
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Excel
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Rev
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Yeah  seen those yesturday.
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Archangel
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 BKB_The_Man wrote: ~~~Archangel~~~ wrote: WOW, read some of the reviews on RottenTomatoes.....this could be a very very good superhero movie....lighter than Batman Begins but still focused on the story first and foremost... Warners might have another quality blockbuster on their hands. Isn't it great to see some of the greatest comics done properly again, Spiderman, X-Men, Batman and now Superman....woohooo... Tuesday - $10m Wednesday - $22m Thursday - $14m Friday - $23m Saturday - $26m Sunday - $21m = $70m 3-Day // $116m 6-Day // $240m  It's going to be close between this and X3....and should beat Batman Begins because this has more hype around it and seems fresher (been more than 15 years hasn't it)... In Australia, Superman is the next big blockbuster....we're starting to see some good marketing for it here...i'm really excited....
I'm sure the marketing in the US will kick up soon...the $50m+ in marketing has to count for something....it's bubling under at the momment and will explode any second....
From what i've seen so far, the movie gives me hope that it could last beyond the first 9-days.....POTC2 will hit hard, but if the story is there, it will have legs....
Plus beyond, POTC2, the rest of July and August looks pretty dull....
$200m for sure
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Excel
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FINALLY
they just aired a second tv spot woth game 3.
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Excel
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Shack wrote: Superman is much bigger and much more accesible to a movie than Batman. In the 70s when it came out it pretty much became one of the biggest box-office phenomenoms of its time(came before Star Wars right?). Superman 2 still made a fine total. Superman is an icon. On the other hand Batman is a grimy, griping angry man who isn't techincally a superhero, rather a vigilante man with alot of utilitys and fighting skills who hides under a armored costume. Hes much darker, and unfortunatly folks, Batman Begins while great to us, was simply no fun for the kids. Superman is more universal and more effects-wise good for a uber-blockbuster movie, similar to the Spiderman effect. It'll be all over McHappy Meals, it'll have posters everywhere, tons of bang bang advertising, SNL parodys, and more. Did anyone see Bruce Wayne beating the crap out of and hanging thugs from roofs while growling disturbing threats on any Happy Meals? Nah.
I think the dormant wait will help. This way it isn't a sequel to the past movies, its more of a new start to kick some ass again. Alot of the audience, 12-13 year old kids, will in no way have seen the original 78 version or sequel. They won't care about that movie. This is more like a readaptation, except with a bigger budget and bigger base. Think Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. If we go by that ratio, 60-some/200-some, then with Supes 150 first movie, this would make over 450. It won't be that much, but it'll be plenty big. I stick with 300 mil+. ya know, this actually makes a lot of sense, and seems to be coming tre.
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STEVE ROGERS
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~~~Archangel~~~ wrote: BKB_The_Man wrote: ~~~Archangel~~~ wrote: WOW, read some of the reviews on RottenTomatoes.....this could be a very very good superhero movie....lighter than Batman Begins but still focused on the story first and foremost... Warners might have another quality blockbuster on their hands. Isn't it great to see some of the greatest comics done properly again, Spiderman, X-Men, Batman and now Superman....woohooo... Tuesday - $10m Wednesday - $22m Thursday - $14m Friday - $23m Saturday - $26m Sunday - $21m = $70m 3-Day // $116m 6-Day // $240m It's going to be close between this and X3....and should beat Batman Begins because this has more hype around it and seems fresher (been more than 15 years hasn't it)... In Australia, Superman is the next big blockbuster....we're starting to see some good marketing for it here...i'm really excited.... I'm sure the marketing in the US will kick up soon...the $50m+ in marketing has to count for something....it's bubling under at the momment and will explode any second.... From what i've seen so far, the movie gives me hope that it could last beyond the first 9-days.....POTC2 will hit hard, but if the story is there, it will have legs.... Plus beyond, POTC2, the rest of July and August looks pretty dull.... $200m for sure
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Shack
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Actually it's about 3-0 legitimatley(Boston Herald, Jeffrey Wells, Hollywood Reporter). Most of the rest are Superman fansites, random internet reviews, or Aint It Cool. Still no definite indication yet, a lot of movies start off strongly in the first couple. FATF3 is over 80% right now for example.
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El Maskado
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Actually I would only count 6 of those reviews because the other 6 have no other reviews other than SR plus one of the sources comes from the main bluetight site
Edit:what shack said
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Webslinger
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The RT score for SR should stay high though. I see it ending somewhere close to 80%.
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O
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It's funny. If the reviews for some fan driven films are horrendous, people say: "This film was review proof anyway, they'll have no effect!" While if the reviews are good, we take them into account in having an affect on the movie. Its just the double standard that exists for films.
Anyways, even with good reviews, I don't see much difference, as I see this making close to 60% of its gross in its first week, whether it has excellent or average reviews. It has direct competition for its demo the next week with a hugely anticipated sequel which could do $100 m +, has an inflated opening weekend, and is a comic fanboy driven film.
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El Maskado
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I think it will end up with something like 75%.Dont forget MI3 also started out with 10 fresh reviews before getting 1 rotten review
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Excel
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the thing is, the reviews arent JUST positive. everybody seems to be LOVING the movie. bluetights.net picked routh over reeve after having seen both. that says something when a die hard fan DOESNT want reeve,but wants routh instead.
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El Maskado
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O wrote: It's funny. If the reviews for some fan driven films are horrendous, people say: "This film was review proof anyway, they'll have no effect!" While if the reviews are good, we take them into account in having an affect on the movie. Its just the double standard that exists for films. Anyways, even with good reviews, I don't see much difference, as I see this making close to 60% of its gross in its first week, whether it has excellent or average reviews. It has direct competition for its demo the next week with a hugely anticipated sequel which could do $100 m +, has an inflated opening weekend, and is a comic fanboy driven film. Well using bad reviews to egg fanatics is always fun, not sure if you missed last years enjoyment of egging Fanatastic Four and getting a huge heated argument over it just when we made snide comments about how the film was getting some really bad reviews
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STEVE ROGERS
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excel wrote: the thing is, the reviews arent JUST positive. everybody seems to be LOVING the movie. bluetights.net picked routh over reeve after having seen both. that says something when a die hard fan DOESNT want reeve,but wants routh instead.
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El Maskado
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BKB_The_Man wrote: excel wrote: the thing is, the reviews arent JUST positive. everybody seems to be LOVING the movie. bluetights.net picked routh over reeve after having seen both. that says something when a die hard fan DOESNT want reeve,but wants routh instead. Yeah I can see where you are coming from. It would be like someone choosing a remake of the Godfather over the original. Hes just picking Routh because its brand new movie and in around 2 years time, he would change his mind again when the novelty wears off
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Lucky
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Very nice tv spot, looks really good.
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excel wrote: but you guys rechanging your predicts everyday is retarded. That's what all good BO predictors should do. If you stand blindly by your prediction, never changing it in spite of any new development (like tracking and what it brings to the table), then you'll never get anywhere with understanding the BO. That's why I like people like DP07, xiayun, etc. They know their craft, and even when they're wrong they're willing to admit it. _________________
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Excel
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no,im not standing blindly. im waiting.
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notfabio
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What's funny is the "SO YOU FLEW IN LAST WEEK" lin Lucky wrote: Very nice tv spot, looks really good. It has now been featured in two of the latest tv spots and is no longer in the film
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Excel
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bABA
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like i said in the beginning ... 2 superhero DC films, both probably good in quality but destroyed due to some of the most awful marketing campaigns ever. hope these early reviews and some of the newer nicer TV spots can salvage them.
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MadGez
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If it doesnt collapse in its 2nd weekend against POTC - then I think it will make $210m. Otherwise $180m.
If it can make $200m then future prospects look rosy (like Batman but to a lesser extent).
I think even Bryan Singer in his AICN interview is a little nervous regarding teens not being interested in Superman anymore. I think they'll turn up - just not in Spidey numbers.
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Shush! wrote: like i said in the beginning ... 2 superhero DC films, both probably good in quality but destroyed due to some of the most awful marketing campaigns ever. hope these early reviews and some of the newer nicer TV spots can salvage them. I agree. Superman marketing wasnt that good. Only nice marketing move for Batman was the first teaser. _________________Libs wrote: FILMO, I'd rather have you eat chocolate syrup off my naked body than be a moderator here.
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Erendis
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This is sounding more and more like King Kong every day. - Cultural icon from the past, but... little pent-up demand
- Possibly great movie but... little pent-up demand.
- well-known experienced director
- good reviews
- huge budget
- emotional "heart" which overbalances action
- lack of major star power
- small but dedicated fanbase <--- I still can't figure this out
- nice stretch of school days off
- direct blockbuster competition.(Narnia, PotC)
The trailer I saw was a Kevin Spacey showcase, yet I hear that Singer chose to focus on Kate Bosworth instead. Bait and switch does not good WOM create.
I will keep my prediction of probably under $200M. If it gets okay WOM, crawls to $230m. If it gets really great cross-demographic WOM (a la PotC 1), all bets are off.
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