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 X-Men: The Last Stand 

What grade would you give this film?
A 39%  39%  [ 31 ]
B 30%  30%  [ 24 ]
C 19%  19%  [ 15 ]
D 8%  8%  [ 6 ]
F 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
I don't plan on seeing this film 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
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X-Men: The Last Stand (also known colloquially as X-Men 3 or X3) is a 2006 superhero film and the third in the X-Men series. Director Brett Ratner took over when Bryan Singer dropped out to direct Superman Returns. The Last Stand revolves around a "mutant cure" that causes serious repercussions among mutants and humans, and on the mysterious resurrection of Jean Grey. The film is loosely based on two X-Men comic book story arcs: writer Chris Claremont's and artist John Byrne's "The Dark Phoenix Saga" and writer Joss Whedon's and artist John Cassaday's six-issue "Gifted" arc.

Following Singer's departure, the director's position was offered to Darren Aronofsky, Alex Proyas, Joss Whedon and Zack Snyder. Matthew Vaughn, who cast Kelsey Grammer as Beast and Vinnie Jones as Juggernaut, dropped out during pre-production and was replaced by Ratner. Filming started in August 2005, budgeted at $210 million, the most expensive film at the time of its release. X-Men: The Last Stand received mixed reviews from critics and fans, but grossed approximately $459 million worldwide, the seventh-highest grossing film of 2006.


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Saw this last night. Let me just start off by saying wow Ratner doesn't mind killing people off or taking away mutant powers. Also, this isn't really anything like the comics other then they are mutants and there is a ton of fighting. My favorite has always been Beast and Nightcrawler so I was happy and sad at the same time. Beast, I think, is the best thing that this movie has going for it. Most of the dialogue had my chuckling because of how cheesy it is. You can also tell, even though the look is the same, that Singer is not directing this movie. One scene that stands out is an action scene with Wolverine in the woods. He moves to quickly and all of his moves look really bad, not like his action scene in X2 in the mansion. I give it a C for some cool action scenes but thats as far as I go for liking it.


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D+

Words can't express how much I hate Brett Ratner and Fox right now. A proper review will come later.


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Yeah, because you weren't screaming, "This will suck!" to the heavens a year before release. You're Harry Knowles, mock 2.


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Let's go back to the year 2000 for a moment. X-Men achieved something unexpected. It delivered not only a financially successful film launching a lucrative franchise, but it also garnered a lot of praise and approval from reviewers. The last large-scale comic book adaptation before it was the rightfully panned Batman & Robin, so it was not hard to understand that expectations to see a high-quality comic book adaptation were fairly low. X-Men, however, was not just bland and flashy popcorn fun. It was a dark and smart film that still managed to entertain in its fullest. Despite a large cast and a high number of characters, the movie never lost its focus and treated each character appropriately. The movie's greatest achievement was, though, that it paved the way for big-budget comic book adaptations to hit the screens and thus opened the door to great movies like X2 and both Spider-Man flicks.

When X2: X-Men United arrived with a huge marketing campaign and big anticipation, it was just astounding how much raves the film has got. It easily managed to outdo its predecessor as far as box-office and critical approval go. What was it magic formula? It basically took the essence of what made the first movie so good and expanded upon it by adding something new. X2 is not considered the best comic book adaptation by many for nothing. It is what one would call a perfect continuation. It picked up the themes of the first and led us further down the path together with the characters which were more explored in the second film. The lack of this formula in the third film is what makes it the downright most disappointing film I have ever seen in theatres in my life.

Ever since the moment Brett Ratner was announced to take over the franchise from Bryan Singer there has been a lot of scepticism. Deservingly so? Yes, but it is sad that all the blame will be on him for this film, even though the screenwriters deserve it just as much at least.

The main premise of the movie is a supposed "cure" for mutancy and the X-gene developed by the government. The idea of having such a cure splits the mutants community it two halves. The ones see it as a certain way out of misery while the others consider it as a dangerous step by the government and a possible attack against mutants. The radical part of the second group is led by Magneto (Ian McKellen) who believes that a war against humans is the only way to solve the issue. Watch out for a nice bin Laden reference there. Moreover Jean Grey is back, but this time as Dark Phoenix, ready to unleash her wrath upon anyone who comes in her way. Sadly, the screenwriters also tried to tackle several other subplots which include two love triangles. With a running time of under 110 minutes it is not a surprise that most of these subplots are badly developed and end in nowhere. Even the Dark Phoenix storyline is not as well-constructed as it should have been and that's a pity because in the X-Men comics it is one of the best storylines ever. Wolverine's story is dropped here, even though it was a solid thread that connected the first two installments of the series.

The movie is not bad just very disappointing in comparison. I think Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines is a good analogy here. Both films have two great and highly praised predecessors. Then a director change happened for the final film and while the product ended up solid in both cases it just couldn't quite match the first two outings. There is some really good construct buried in X3, it's just that the makers fail to explore its potential fully. There are still many good aspects of the film to be mentioned. The old ensemble cast still works together pretty well with the highlight being Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. Ian McKellen delivers a great performance, in particular towards the end of the film. His character, however, loses a lot of ambiguity that he has shown in the previous films. That is something that applies to the entire film as it draws the line between good and bad pretty clearly. There are several cool appearances by new mutants like Callistro, Beast, Angel and Multiple Man in the film, but sadly all of them are way too short and none of the additions come close to the character of Nightcrawler in X2. Especially the heavily-promoted character of Angel is barely seen in the movie.

The visuals are as great as you'd expect. The effects and the make-up are top-notch. The action is great, even though some of it does not make much sense and seems to be in the film just for the sake of showcasing action. The final battle scene is as senseless as it is impressive. There are several unexpected character demises during the film, but only one of them comes close to the powerful "death" of Jean Grey at the end of X2. The rest just leaves you cold. There are several powerful scenes on themselves throughout the film, most of them between Wolverine and Jean Grey. Thanks to a nice pace and the splendid action set pieces the movie is far from boring and can easily serve as good, light popcorn fun. Unfortunately it is not much more than that either. It will certainly be enjoyable and entertaining to most moviegoers who don't ask for more, but for a fan of previous X-films, it is a sore letdown.

The reason why it is one of the most disappointing movies I have ever witnessed is not just the quality of the movie itself, but much rather that it is likely the final entry in the series and it is sad to see the series go out this way (even though an after-credits sequence surely leaves a door open for another sequel). It could have been worse, far worse. But seeing what potential the story bears, it is obvious that in right hands it could have been much better too.

As it is, I still give this film a fairly high grade because in the end, it is an X-Men film with an X-Men feel to it. It does not miss that mark. It has all the entertainment ingredients of the predecessors, but doesn't have the complexity of their storylines. Go in, enjoy this entertaining, but ultimately forgettable romp and don't expect anything close to the best of the genre. For that, we all should look forward to Sam Raimi's Spider-Man III and Nolan's second Batman film.



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Seeing the midnight showing tonight...

Hoping it's on par or better than MI: 3... i'm sure it will be

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Yeah, because you weren't screaming, "This will suck!" to the heavens a year before release. You're Harry Knowles, mock 2.


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http://www.worldofkj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20384

For those that hated this like] Getluv or disappointed like Dr.Lecter, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the Question I proposed in the above link..


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Meh.

It wasn't bad at all, but it was dissapointing. It is a crowd-pleasing movie, basically it is X-Men and X2 with more action and less drama. While sometimes that is bad it works to an extent here meaning that it is a fun movie to watch but not all that great otherwise.

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Man, I really do miss 2005. That year really made me appreciate blockbusters. 2006 has made me realize how things are.

I came into X3 with low expectations. And..it BARLEY met these expectations.

Now, let's start with the good. Kesley does an amazing job being Beast. Best acting performance in the movie, though I think that was a given. The comedy in this is good and you actually laugh hard a couple times. "I'm the Juggernuat Bitch" is the greatest thing in the entire movie. And I am being DEAD serious. F/X were good too.

Now on with the bad. Bad pacing, dull acting, bad plot, & the movie sets itself up to be the "last" one and then ends it with, "Oh nvm, theres still some left." Don't call this the last stand and then give an ending like this

I'll do a more in-depth review later as I just came back from the midnight showing. But I must say, this is a big dissapointment. It was no where near X1 or X2.


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And honestly, it would be C+/B- territory without the Juggernaut.

WOM will not be that good. I mean, even the die-hards at the midnight show weren't that pleased. An average fan probably will enjoy this, but if they are thinking it'll be close to the other two, they are sadly mistaken.

Man, will any blockbuster this summer actually get an 'A' rating?


It seems like every time there is a comicbook adaptation released such as X-MEN or even BATMAN or SPIDERMAN, A Diehard fans 1st impression is exactly what you described above and why?? Because 9 times out of 10, they went into the movie with expectations that would ultimately never be met, especially when it clashes with the idea of the fans story floating around there head.. You say that if the average fan should enjoy this, that in no way will it be acceptable for them to think it will be better than the other 2.. How do you know this?? It's really their opinion if they say X3 is better than the other 2 cause it's exactly that: their opinion.. As far as Diehard fans of the X-MEN series go and there distaste for this movie?? I predict that despite the foot stomping and bitching about how short it was or Anti-Climatic, they'll see it several times and probably won't admit to doing so either.. In short, this movie is critic proof and will make a fortune this weekend and specifically today.. I also predict that this is a movie that will grow on people through the course of time, like The HULK did..


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Now that's a screenplay...

Loved it.

X3 draws on all the best of Shakespeare, the Arthurian legend, and Chinese melodrama to craft a atory of immense power and resonance.


This is the best of the series.

Even better than the solid X1, and fortunately incomparable to the tawdry X2 (certainly, in future, to be considered the "mutant" of the series...) -- X3 brings the thundering storyline and the legendariesque characters under the talented helmsmanship of Brett Ratner, compared to the series' previous sleepyhead director.

(Be sure to stay till after the credits for the X4 teaser...)

6 out of 5.



(Wow, an unusually great summer movie season so far, with X3, the best of the series so far; Poseidon, the action movie par excellence; Over the Hedge, best animated movie in at least two years;, and the exciting church thriller, Da Vinci Code -- I didn't see this many good movies the entire summer of 2005!)


You HAVE to be kidding...I can't stop laughing at that line. We must have seen different movies or something. You can't be serious also that this summer so far has had good movies...MI:3 wasn't bad because of Philip Seymour Hofman and Over The Hedge was a decent animated movie but everything else has been really flat and nothing, even X3, will be considered in the league of a "blockbuster", not like Star Wars last year.


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You HAVE to be kidding...

Not at all. It's a great storyline...


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Just got back form the midnight showing. Oh how the mighty fall.

As it stands, X3 is a nice, fun movie, with a slight hint of darkness to it. It does not provide nearly as much depth as X2 or even X1 (which I consider to be pretty light as it is). I suppose, judging it independent of what the series has given, it's a good enough movie to pass the time. But fans of the series so far will most likely be disappointed. Two things could have fixed this whole thing: Singer and screenwriters. Brett Ratner did not do a bad ob, but he simply pales in comparison to nailing the overall tone of the X-Men series. Perhaps it's because we've grown more accustomed to it after two movie. IT seems that Ratner is simply copying every other comicbook movie, whereas Singer really set the X-Universe apart. And the screenwriting was just bad. A few minor plotholes and pacing issues, and some glaringly bad dialogue.

OVerall, a B, slitly under the first movie.

EDIT: And I must say, the midnight premier was not worth it, particularly because I have to take my final exams in just a few hours :sweat: :sweat:

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A question to those who have seen it...

Why does at the final battle the day turns into night so rapidly? The entire audience I was seeing it with was asking this question I think...

That looked stupid.

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Quick review!

9.4/10

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New Superman trailer, and Snakes on a Plane!

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Dr. Lecter wrote:
A question to those who have seen it...

Why does at the final battle the day turns into night so rapidly? The entire audience I was seeing it with was asking this question I think...

That looked stupid.


Perhaps it's to represent how long the battle has been going on as to why it goes from day to night.. Not reading into this a little too much are you??? Lecter, see the movie again and perhaps, you'll be used to the movie's flaws to where you can enjoy it a little more without such a discerning eye..


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I cannot describe how disappointed i am right now. I have this horrible feeling in my gut, it is like a combonation of frustration, sadness, and pure rage. I'll start with a little backstory, and that is that i am an X-Men movie fan (i haven't read any comics that aren't the Astonishing X-Men). I really enjoyed the first movie, and i thought that X2 was amazing. I had high hopes for X3, though they were wittled down to nearly nothing when i heard that moron Brett Ratner was going to direct.

Oddly enough, Brett Ratner seems to have done the best job with the screenplay. I am disgusted with the fact that Ratner was the best thing behind the scenes of the movie. The screenplay is bad, truly crappy. There are so many holes in logic and story that i was truly stunned. The score was horrific, an absolute abonimation (especially when compared to X2's score).

I have just been sitting here for about 6 minutes trying to think of where to go next. The fact that i have to think for 6 minutes to decide which negative i should talk about next makes me so....hollow. I can't believe that this is what i have been waiting for, for many many months. There is no character in this movie who had any kind of cogent, well executed, storyline. Wolverine gets the most screentime, but even his arc is empty and poorly designed. Pyro (my personal favorite) was given nothing to do except for stand at Magneto's side, give a light show every now and then, and blindly hate all the "good guys" for no particular reason. I could go on for paragraphs about each individual character not having anything to do, but i think you get it.

The overall storyline of the "cure" and the Dark Phoenix was too much for an hour and forty minutes, so both plotlines were stripped down to the bare minimum of what was need to make "sense". The "cure" was a highly interesting story that was done no justice, as it was given no time to.

That's it for now as annoying people can't sleep with the typing.


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BKB_The_Man wrote:
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A question to those who have seen it...

Why does at the final battle the day turns into night so rapidly? The entire audience I was seeing it with was asking this question I think...

That looked stupid.


Perhaps it's to represent how long the battle has been going on as to why it goes from day to night.. Not reading into this a little too much are you??? Lecter, see the movie again and perhaps, you'll be used to the movie's flaws to where you can enjoy it a little more without such a discerning eye..


No, it turns night before the battle even starts. I heard everyone sitting around me wondering about that...

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I heard everyone sitting around me wondering about that...

Heard everyone wondering?

As Magneto said to the young Jean Grey, "Don't you know that it's rude to use your mutant powers to read people's minds?"


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you know .. i'm just gonna post my unedited review here.

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It is never easy walking into a film sequel, especially when the original(s) are held in high esteem. It is even worse when the latest in the franchise is being helm by someone different, not out of choice but because the original helm"er" had decided to call it quits (or run off to make another project). This creates an odd situation. In most situations, you either walk into the flick with high expectations or you walk in with low ones. X3 is an example of a franchise film where your expectations themselves are at odds. On the one hand, the first 2 films have created a great legacy and on the other, all signs point towards certain doom. There are 2 different expectations to meet and if they're not, chances are that the result will be bittersweet.And bittersweet is exactly how I felt walking out of the theater, more bitter than sweet though I felt relieved that it didn't turn out as bad as I thought it 'could'.

Before I continue though, there is one important aspect of the film that must be pointed out, which may invariably be the deciding factor for many if their 2 hour experience was worthwhile or not. At no moment did X3 feel like it was a sequel made to just cash in on the success of its name. The intentions of the studio and all those involved seemed genuinely noble from the get go. X3 has a premise that is compelling, a moral debate that is sound and intelligent, main characters that show hints of depth and as expected off all summer blockbusters, tonnes of action with CGI that may not be jaw dropping but respectable enough. If I really think about it, X3 seemed to cover its basis in just about all respects and everyone deserves a big pat on the back. Well, almost everyone. Something did go wrong somewhere right?

Somehow, even with all the right elements thrown into the movie, none of it seemed to properly work and integrate together. While there is ample action, there is little excitement. While there is a moral dilemma, there is a lack of an emotional response. It is quick to blame the bad execution of the film on the director but putting the entire blame on the director's shoulder would be unfair. The problems lie with the script more so with the director. It is inconsistent, with irregular pacing and even worse, with dodgy development. It's like every great aspect of the film was marred by moments in the script that if I look back, made little sense.

X3 is a film that can essentially be divided into 2 segments. A build up and a 30 minute long CGI laden finale (and by that, I am not implying negativity. I'm part of the popcorn crowd and have never considered CGI as bad (unless its horrible mine you)). Both segments show clear evidence of there being something wrong with how the entire project was executed. The build up sets up everything for our grand finale but the entire time, it only deals with 'who, what, when, why, and how'. Every dialogue and every scene caters to driving the premise and the premise only. Does my negativity on this sound odd? Well think about having a conversation with someone who just deals with telling you the important facts and never deters from it and never becomes casual? You may feel that the content of the conversation is important but it also becomes less engaging. Due to this, the entire film till the very end just feels rushed, with no side tracking. I would say that it gives no breathing room but that is not possible. Due to the way the script is written and the way it is executed, it lacks a certain amount of excitement. Instead of building the audience up to the grand finale, when it finally comes, it is more of a moment of relief than anything. And even then, things aren't spectacular.

Which leads me to my next problem. The characters behave in ways that do not make much sense. The story progresses in a way that does not make much sense. They make for great action pieces but at the end of the day, in all honesty, should have been avoided. There are examples of this throughout the film. Lets take Magneto for example. Here, we have a villain who is not necessarily driven by evil intentions. His intentions, in his mind, are noble which in many ways makes him more dangerous but not necessarily an immoral person. Why would he sacrifice his own brethren as 'pawns' when we can avoid the death of so many of them by taking 2 of the most powerful X-Men (out of the 6 that stood together) out of commission by a single thought? Why would he recruit Phoenix, when he was only going to use her as a last resort. The entire mutant population is fighting for their own survival, and we all see early on how magneto treats those who are no longer 'like him'. Why would a particular mutant character in the middle of the movie sacrifice himself for the greater good of the entire mutant community. It made little sense to me, much like the actions of a lot of characters. Characters show off their powers in fashions they don't necessarily have to, the motivations of many seem unclear and sadly at the end of the day, I felt little emotions for even the lead characters who are dealing with their respective predicaments.

As negative as I sound, X3 is not a bad movie. As I said in the beginning, it had everything going for it and the problem lay in the execution of it, which did not bode well with me at all. X3 calls itself the Last Stand and many actors have confirmed for us that this will be the last in this mutant franchise. Don't be surprised though if you get the vibe that the studio doesn't feel the same way : )


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7.4/10 - B+/A-

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A question to those who have seen it...

Why does at the final battle the day turns into night so rapidly? The entire audience I was seeing it with was asking this question I think...

That looked stupid.


Storm??


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C-.
Check my review on the site if you want to know more:

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Levy wrote:
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A question to those who have seen it...

Why does at the final battle the day turns into night so rapidly? The entire audience I was seeing it with was asking this question I think...

That looked stupid.


Storm??


Storm wasn't even there yet. Moreover, Storm can control the weather not day and night (i.e. she can't move planets)

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A question to those who have seen it...

Why does at the final battle the day turns into night so rapidly? The entire audience I was seeing it with was asking this question I think...

That looked stupid.


It was a big plot hole in the film that I also heard many people go, "WTF?"

But honestly, who liked the action in X2 better? While the movie only really had like 3 good action scenes(Nightcrawler, invasion at Xaiver, & the end) those combined were bettter than all the action sequences in X3. That's why I'm like really dissapointed with this, because at the least, I expected this to have the best action.

Arg, I just can't get over this. This film has like ruined the whole franchise for me. Everything that was set up in the previous two just got destroyed by this one and had no meaning. I mean, Scott and Mystique are freakin gone in like 5 minutes. Rogue is hardly in the film. I could go on and on. Man, its been like 5 hours and I'm still pissed off.


X2 had much better staged and paced action scenes. The fight between Wolvie and Lady Deathstrike is excellent.

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