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 Yahoo Review Thread - 2010 
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The Number 23 60, +48, NA
Reno 911!: Miami 11, +0, A
The Astronaut Farmer 3, +0, B+
The Abandoned 3, +0, C+
Amazing Grace 2, +2, NA

The Number 23 remains on the front page at this hour.


Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:37 pm
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Abandoned's ratio could be affected because it played at Horrorfest.


Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:06 pm
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The Number 23 78, +18, NA
Reno 911!: Miami 11, +0, A
The Astronaut Farmer 3, +0, B+
The Abandoned 3, +0, C+
Amazing Grace 3, +1, NA

Farmer has 5 written reviews, while The Abandoned has 3. The others are still sketchy.


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The Number 23 89, +11, NA
Reno 911!: Miami 11, +0, A
The Astronaut Farmer 3, +0, B+
The Abandoned 3, +0, C+
Amazing Grace 3, +1, NA


Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:35 pm
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Number 23 76 written reviews/130 user ratings (C+)
Reno 911!: Miami 4 written reviews/48 user ratings (B+)
The Astronaut Farmer 2 written reviews/20 user ratings (B-)
The Abandoned 3 written reviews/9 user ratings (C)
Amazing Grace 3 written review/15 user ratings (B+)


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almost famous wrote:
Number 23 76 written reviews/130 user ratings (C+)
Reno 911!: Miami 4 written reviews/48 user ratings (B+)
The Astronaut Farmer 2 written reviews/20 user ratings (B-)
The Abandoned 3 written reviews/9 user ratings (C)
Amazing Grace 3 written review/15 user ratings (B+)


why is yours and rolling thunders numbers so off?

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Bryan_smith wrote:
almost famous wrote:
Number 23 76 written reviews/130 user ratings (C+)
Reno 911!: Miami 4 written reviews/48 user ratings (B+)
The Astronaut Farmer 2 written reviews/20 user ratings (B-)
The Abandoned 3 written reviews/9 user ratings (C)
Amazing Grace 3 written review/15 user ratings (B+)


why is yours and rolling thunders numbers so off?


I've no idea about that. I open the same pages and same links.
Currently I see 81 user reviews / 134 user ratings for Number 23.


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projections anyone? :nerd:


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Wild Hogs 5 (3), +0 (+0), A
Zodiac 6 (26), +0 (+0), B+
Black Snake Moan 4 (12), +0 (+0), B+


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Wild Hogs 7 (3), +2 (+0), A
Zodiac 6 (26), +0 (+0), B+
Black Snake Moan 4 (12), +0 (+0), B+


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Wild Hogs 9 (3), +2 (+0), A
Zodiac 7 (26), +1 (+0), B+
Black Snake Moan 4 (12), +0 (+0), B+


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Wild Hogs 13 (3), +4 (+0), A
Zodiac 11 (26), +4 (+0), B+
Black Snake Moan 4 (12), +0 (+0), B+


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Wild Hogs 16 (3), +3 (+0), A
Zodiac 11 (27), +0 (+1), B+
Black Snake Moan 5 (12), +1 (+0), B+

MovieFone views at this hour (may be useless, but we'll see):

Zodiac - 5,963
Black Snake Moan - 5,700
Wild Hogs - 4,990


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Wild Hogs 22 (116), +6 (+113), C+
Zodiac 12 (76), +1 (+49), B
Black Snake Moan 6 (64), +1 (+52), B-


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Zodiac is on the front page.


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Wild Hogs 28 (116), +6 (+0), C+
Zodiac 52 (76), +40 (+0), B
Black Snake Moan 8 (64), +2 (+0), B-


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Wild Hogs 114 (528), +86 (+412), B- (Up from C+)
Zodiac 68 (76), +16 (+263), B
Black Snake Moan 28 (176), +20 (+112), C+ (Down from B-)

Strong for Wild Hogs, low-ish for Zodiac and BSM.


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Awards Czar Jon wrote:
Wild Hogs 114 (528), +86 (+412), B- (Up from C+)
Zodiac 68 (76), +16 (+263), B
Black Snake Moan 28 (176), +20 (+112), C+ (Down from B-)

Strong for Wild Hogs, low-ish for Zodiac and BSM.



How is that possibly strong for Wild Hogs if Zodiac and Black Snake Moan are lowish?

If Wild Hogs is expected to do 30 million, and is currently at 533 user ratings and Zodiac is expected to do about 15 million and is currently at 340 user ratings (and will most likely have the lowest ratio of the two) how is that good for one while poor for the other?

I think all 3 numbers are equally low, but that probably has more to do with Yahoo than anything else...

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Ratio will be much higher for Zodiac than Wild Hogs. So for example, Wild Hogs at 50 means a $10.7m Fri, while Zodiac at 100 is only a $3.4m Fri. I'm not saying that those are the ratios, that's for the more experienced here (particularly with the funky recent ratios) to decide. But you get the idea.

Zodiac had a bunch of writtens this morning from people who hadn't seen the movie yet and were just expecting it to be good, so the numbers are partially inflated already, although that would be accounted for in a higher ratio. Plus the frontpage, as someone noted, which boosts its ratio further.

So anyway, with average expectations for Wild Hogs in the 20's, centered in the mid-20's, these Yahoo figures look like it could exceed expectations, if the gurus think it will get a low ratio. Meanwhile, Zodiac, with expectations in the mid-teens, looks like it might be low double digits, again depending on whether the ratio will be a near-100 figure or not.

By other reports, even compared to expectations, Wild Hogs is doing well, Zodiac moderately, and Black Snake Moan poorly, so this probably confirms the thoughts above on the ratios.


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Ratio will be much higher for Zodiac than Wild Hogs. So for example, Wild Hogs at 50 means a $10.7m Fri, while Zodiac at 100 is only a $3.4m Fri. I'm not saying that those are the ratios, that's for the more experienced here (particularly with the funky recent ratios) to decide. But you get the idea.

Zodiac had a bunch of writtens this morning from people who hadn't seen the movie yet and were just expecting it to be good, so the numbers are partially inflated already, although that would be accounted for in a higher ratio. Plus the frontpage, as someone noted, which boosts its ratio further.

So anyway, with average expectations for Wild Hogs in the 20's, centered in the mid-20's, these Yahoo figures look like it could exceed expectations, if the gurus think it will get a low ratio. Meanwhile, Zodiac, with expectations in the mid-teens, looks like it might be low double digits, again depending on whether the ratio will be a near-100 figure or not.

By other reports, even compared to expectations, Wild Hogs is doing well, Zodiac moderately, and Black Snake Moan poorly, so this probably confirms the thoughts above on the ratios.


Family Films usually always have ratios that a higher than adult oriented films... I don't see how wild hogs would have only 50, while Zodiac would have 100... even if Zodiac numbers were partially inflated, the ratios would be more like 80/100 or 50/75, or something like that ... not 50/100

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Well, no one posted midnight PT review numbers, but at BOM's $11m for Wild Hogs and $4.17m for Zodiac, those would be 10:30pm ratios of 48 for Hogs and 82 for Zodiac. Using projected midnight numbers, probably ratios close to 55 and 94. (And using SBD estimates, the ratios would be 53 and 97.)

So I'd say that the 50/100 ratios estimated were pretty close. And I don't see how someone could have thought that Zodiac's ratios would be lower than Wild Hogs.


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300 - 136 (58), A-

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What kind of ratio is expected for 300?


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What kind of ratio is expected for 300?

I'd say either Sin City's or Troy's (whatever it was).


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300 - 892 (208), A-


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