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Yep. I love this site. I was constantly referring to it last year....

I love the top 3 as of now, though it will change....
Eternal Sunshine, Sideways, and Before Sunset in any order is fine with me...
Sunshine ranks around #13 on my own list, Sunset #2 and Sideways around #7.

But as far as critical acclaim goes, I know those 3 will be the closest to overall my list and if they end up being the final top 3, I will be surprised and well pleased!

So far Sideways leads in #1's with 10 and Before Sunset follows with 5, while Eternal Sunshine is 1 ahead of Sideways in total mentions, 26!

I like all of the current top 10's. If any 5 out of those 10 are nominated together, that will be unbelievable. Last year we had 4 out of the top 10, including the top 3: Lost in Translation, ROTK, Mystic River, along with Master and Commander at No. 8. Seabiscuit came in at No. 16.

Two years ago, oscar nominated 3 out of the top 10: TTT at No. 5, Gangs of New York at 7, and Chicago at No. 8. However, the other two finalists are just outside the top 10: The Pianist at No. 11 and The Hours at No. 13.

Three years ago, oscar again nominated 3 out of the top 10: In the Bedroom (No. 4), FOTR (No. 6), and Moulin Rouge! (No. 9). Gosford Park is at No. 15, while the eventual winner, A Beautiful Mind, lagged at No. 18.

So in the three years tracking the critic lists, we could say that 2001 had the worst lineup, while last year is the best lineup we had out of the three, and I'd think most people would agree. Now let's look at this year. I expect 3 out of the top 10 to get nominated: Sideways, Million Dollar Baby, and The Aviator. I expect Hotel Rwanda to move up the list, and Ray will probably end up in the No. 15 to 18 range. All in all, Finding Neverland looks like the weakest one. If Eternal Sunshine had more of a chance, it could've challenged last year.

If Eternal Sunshine was released in November/December, it'd be close to a lock for a nom.

This thread just immensely raised my anticipation for Million Dollar Baby, Ray, The Aviator, Sideways, Hotel Rwanda and Finding Neverland.

It's good to see Before Sunset that high on the lists.

Hey Arthur, have you seen Eternal Sunshine??

NO

I have yet to rent it.

I saw it a few months ago, but that was a copy with bad quality. I would absolutely love to see it right now again.

Over the weekend I'll rent both Before Sunrise and Before Sunset.

I would love to see Before Sunrise (playing in my hometown)!! Before Sunset is a great little movie, I really enjoyed it.

this was posted at oscarwatch forums, and l thought it was pretty interesting...l left off the top 30 unreleased, but they're at the link below, if you care to look...

http://www.filmlinc.com/fcm/online/2004poll.htm

50 BEST FILMS OF 2004 (Released theatrically in the U.S.)
1. Sideways (Alexander Payne, U.S.) 684 points
2. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Michel Gondry, U.S.) 602
3. Before Sunset (Richard Linklater, U.S.) 593
4. Million Dollar Baby (Clint Eastwood, U.S.) 471
5. Goodbye Dragon Inn (Tsai Ming-liang, Taiwan) 462
6. Notre musique (Jean-Luc Godard, France) 460
7. Vera Drake (Mike Leigh, U.K.) 407
8. Kill Bill Vol. 2 (Quentin Tarantino, U.S.) 405
9. Dogville (Lars von Trier, Denmark) 388
10. Moolaadé (Ousmane Sembene, Senegal) 387
11. Bad Education (Pedro Almodóvar, Spain) 344
12. The Aviator (Martin Scorsese, U.S.) 336
13. The Incredibles (Brad Bird, U.S.) 310
14. Crimson Gold (Jafar Panahi, Iran) 305
15. Fahrenheit 9/11 (Michael Moore, U.S.) 286
16. I ? Huckabees (David O. Russell, U.S.) 283
17. Los Angeles Plays Itself (Thom Andersen, U.S.) 275
18. Collateral (Michael Mann, U.S.) 255
19. House of Flying Daggers (Zhang Yimou, China) 228
20. Tarnation (Jonathan Caouette, U.S.) 223
21. Distant (Nuri Bilge Ceylan, Turkey) 203
22. Hero (Zhang Yimou, China) 200
23. The Five Obstructions (Lars von Trier, Denmark) 197
24. The Return (Andrei Zvyagintsev, Russia) 194
25. Cowards Bend the Knee (Guy Maddin, Canada) 188
26. The Big Red One: The Reconstruction (Samuel Fuller, U.S.) 184
27. The Saddest Music in the World (Guy Maddin, Canada) 176
28. Kinsey (Bill Condon, U.S.) 174
29. Blissfully Yours (Apichatpong Weerasethakul, Thailand) 163
30. Maria Full of Grace (Joshua Marston, U.S./Colombia) 163
31. Since Otar Left (Julie Bertucelli, France) 160.5
32. Time of the Wolf (Michael Haneke, Austria) 160
33. The Brown Bunny (Vincent Gallo, U.S.) 156
34. Infernal Affairs (Alan Mak & Andrew Lau, Hong Kong) 154
35. Springtime in a Small Town (Tian Zhuangzhuang, China) 150
36. Birth (Jonathan Glazer, U.S.) 147
37. Bright Leaves (Ross McElwee, U.S.) 132
38. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter…and Spring (Kim Ki-duk, South Korea) 127
39. Primer (Shane Carruth, U.S.) 125
40. The Corporation (Jennifer Abbot & Mark Achbar,U.S.) 121
41. Zatoichi: The Blind Swordsman (Takeshi Kitano, Japan) 121
42. The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou (Wes Anderson, U.S.) 119
43. The Motorcycle Diaries (Walter Salles, Brazil) 107
44. Osama (Siddiq Barmak, Afghanistan) 106
45. Shaun of the Dead (Edgar Wright, U.K.) 105
46. S21: Khmer Rouge Killing Machine (Rithy Panh, Cambodia/France) 104.5
47. Metallica: Some Kind of Monster (Joe Berlinger & Bruce Sinofsky, U.S.) 104
48. Hotel Rwanda (Terry George, U.K.) 103 103
49. Napoleon Dynamite (Jared Hess, U.S.) 98
50. Team America: World Police (Trey Parker, U.S.) 90

People from Salon:

Stephanie Zacharek (Salon)
1. Before Sunset
2. House of Flying Daggers
3. Hotel Rwanda
4. Last Life in the Universe
5. I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
6. Harry Potter and the The Prisoner of Azkaban
7. The Incredibles/ The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie
8. Hellboy
9. The AViator
10. Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle

Charles Taylor (Salon)
01. House of Flying Daggers
02. The Dreamers
03. Before Sunset
04. Last Life in the Universe
05. Goodbye, Dragon Inn
06. Ray
07. A Very Long Engagement
08. Hotel Rwanda
09. Blissfully Yours
10. 13 Going on 30

John Anderson (Newsday)
1. Vera Drake
2. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
3. The Five Obstructions
4. Sideways
5. Goodbye, Dragon Inn
6. Notre Musique
7. Free Radicals
8. Born Into Brothels
9. The Aviator
10. Million Dollar Baby

Cameron Bailey (Now Toronto)
1. Sideways
2. Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter ...and Spring
3. Vera Drake
4. The Motorcycle Diaries
5. Kinsey
6. In This World
7. Before Sunset
8. Dogville
9. Hero / House of Flying Daggers
10. Mean Girls

Wendy Banks (Now Toronto)
1. Before Sunset
2. Sideways
3. Primer
4. Ryan
5. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
6. Riding Giants
7. Hukkle
8. Distant
9. Shaun of the Dead
10. End of the Century: The Story of the Ramones

John Harkness (Now Toronto)
1. Hero
2. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
3. Collateral
4. Shaun of the Dead
5. Sideways
6. Infernal Affairs
7. Spartan
8. The Triplettes of Belleville
9. Hellboy
10. The Aviator

E! Online
1. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
2. Sideways
3. The Incredibles
4. Finding Neverland
5. The Sea Inside
6. Fahrenheit 9/11
7. Bad Education
8. Million Dollar Baby
9. A Very Long Engagement
10. Garden State

11. Hero 12. Kinsey 13. In Good Company 14. Shrek 2 15. Ray 16. The Motorcycle Diaries 17. Team America 18. The Aviator 19. The Bourne Supremacy 20. Harry Potter & the Prisoner of Azkaban

Scott Foundas (LA Weekly)
1. Notre Musique / Star Spangled to Death
2. Kill Bill: Vol. 2
3. Dogville
4. Million Dollar Baby
5. Moolaadé
6. Vera Drake
7. Distant
8. Before Sunset
9. Kinsey
10. Collateral / Los Angeles Plays Itself

Owen Gleiberman (Entertainment Weekly)
1. Sideways
2. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
3. The Incredibles
4. Maria Full of Grace
5. Kinsey
6. Before Sunset
7. Osama
8. Open Water
9. 13 Going on 30
10. Ray

Lisa Schwarzbaum (Entertainment Weekly)
1. Sideways
2. Million Dollar Baby
3. The Incredibles
4. Maria Full of Grace
5. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
6. Moolaadé
7. Collateral
8. The Aviator
9. The Return
10. Bright Leaves

Ron Henriques (Latino Review)
1. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
2. The Incredibles
3. Hotel Rwanda
4. Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence
5. The Aviator
6. Sideways
7. Dogville
8. Team America: World Police
9. House of Flying Daggers
10. The Dreamers

Matthew Hays (Montreal Mirror)
1. Kinsey
2. The Aviator
3. Super Size Me
4. Kill Bill: Vol. 2
5. Bad Education
6. Fahrenheit 9/11
7. Control Room
8. Open Water
9. Maria Full of Grace
10. Seed of Chucky

Great to see Hotel Rwanda finally making it onto the lists!

I am thoroughly surprised and excited to see Before Sunset doing so incredibly well!!!

Here is a quote from LatinoReview's list that expresses pretty much exactly my opinion on why Hotel Rwanda will be nominated for Best Picture over Ray:

"Don Cheadle has stepped to the front with a powerful and intelligent performance as a man who risked everything he had for complete strangers. Many are praising Jaime Foxx for his work in "Ray" but where Foxx was the one good thing about that film, Cheadle is surrounded by powerful events and a supportive cast in a non-traditional story that needed to be told."

It's interesting and nice to see that House of Flying Daggers is No. 1 on 6 lists, the third most behind Sideways and Before Sunset and tied with Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. It's getting more praise than I could ever imagined. I think in a sense, by releasing Hero two years late, Miramax did Yimou and HOFD a favor, maybe not commerically, but definitely critically.

Ben Kenigsberg (East Hampton/Southhampton Independent)
1. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
2. Los Angeles Plays Itself
3. I Heart Huckabees
4. Before Sunset
5. Dogville
6. Primer
7. Notre Musique
8. The Aviator
9. Kill Bill: Vol. 2
10. Blissfully Yours

Tom Long (The Detroit News)
1. Before Sunset
2. Finding Neverland
3. Sideways
4. Kill Bill, Vol.2
5. Garden State
6. A Very Long Engagement
7. Kinsey
8. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
9. The Aviator
10. Hero

Peter Keough (Boston Phoenix)
1. House of Flying Daggers
2. The Life Aquatic
3. Crimson Gold
4. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
5. Sideways
6. Before Sunset
7. Kinsey
8. The Aviator
9. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
10. Open Water

Gerald Peary (Boston Phoenix)
1. Sideways
2. Before Sunset
3. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
4. The SpongeBob Squarepants Movie
5. We Don't Live Here Anymore
6. Distant
7. Moolaadé
8. Notre Musique
9. Blind Shaft
10. Tanner on Tanner

Mark Palermo (The Coast)
1. Hero and House of Flying Daggers [tie]
2. Vera Drake
3. Tropical Malady
4. The Aviator
5. Torque
6. Spider-Man 2
7. Crimson Gold
8. The Polar Express (IMAX 3D)
9. Oldboy
10. Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle

Another Torque admirer.

Wilson Morales (blackfilm.com)
1. Million Dollar Baby
2. The Aviator
3. Finding Neverland
4. Ray
5. Sideways
6. Hotel Rwanda
7. The Incredibles
8. Collateral
9. House of Flying Daggers
10. Infernal Affairs

Robert Rosado (efilmcritic.com)
1. The Aviator
2. Kill Bill: Vol. 2
3. The Phantom of the Opera
4. Sideways
5. Before Sunset
6. Million Dollar Baby
7. Spider-Man 2
8. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
9. Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
10. Mean Girls

Sarah Rowland (Montreal Mirror)
1. Metallica: Some Kind of Monster
2. Team America: World Police
3. Hero
4. Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence
5. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
6. Open Water
7. Goodbye, Lenin
8. The Saddest Music in the World
9. Control Room
10. Tarnation

Rex Reed (New York Observer)
1. Million Dollar Baby
2. Kinsey
3. Sideways
4. Bad Education
5. Fahrenheit 9/11
6. A Home at the End of the World
7. Ray
8. Open Water
9. The Assassination of Richard Nixon
10. The Motorcycle Diaries

Ok, ok. I enjoyed the hell out of it, but why has Torque made it onto 3 different top 10 lists?

I don't get it either :?

I have yet to find a movie like I, Robot or SAW on a critics' list, yet Torque has already appeared on some :?

Torque stands as the absolute worst movie 2004 for me. I really don't get it.

I thought Torque was fun, but really really stupid fun. I'd not give it more than a B.