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Harry Warden
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Joe wrote:
Not my point. My point is that this year has been a bad one for movies in my opinion. Only a few good films and MSEG looks like another bad one to add to the pile based on its ads, which should theoretically show the best parts of the film.
Maybe it's just horrible marketing?  Horrible premise, director (what has he done recently that was any good?), and stars (Luke is the less popular Wilson, and Uma is fugly and annoying).
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Kenspy
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Briefly looking at the Monster House number, it looks like it'll end at 7.5-9, but I'll wait for final review number.
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Kenspy
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edit: i have no clue why it double posted
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Dr. Lecter
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Killuminati510 wrote: LitW already has 6.5m, it's ratio shouldnt be greater then 130, especially with this somewhat backloaded pattern it's showing. I think it's looking at minimum 8m max 10m Unless it's clogged, I definitely disagree. With a grade this bad, we usually get high ratios and especially with a flick that was blasted this much online. I don't see a ratio lower than 160-170. _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Killuminati510 wrote: LitW already has 6.5m, it's ratio shouldnt be greater then 130, especially with this somewhat backloaded pattern it's showing. I think it's looking at minimum 8m max 10m Unless it's clogged, I definitely disagree. With a grade this bad, we usually get high ratios and especially with a flick that was blasted this much online. I don't see a ratio lower than 160-170. Village had a ratio of 130. _________________ "People always want to tear you down when you're on top, like Napoleon back in the Roman Empire" - Dirk Diggler
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Joker's Thug #3
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BTW the films are on the front page now ( old yahoo not new one ).
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Joe wrote:
Not my point. My point is that this year has been a bad one for movies in my opinion. Only a few good films and MSEG looks like another bad one to add to the pile based on its ads, which should theoretically show the best parts of the film.
Maybe it's just horrible marketing? It's a shame Fox focused all of its marketing this summer on X3, The Omen, and John Tucker Must Die (not counting Prada because I didn't see much of it but there may have been a lot)....Garfield 2 and this probably could've done much better with a lot more marketing.
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Dr. Lecter
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Joe wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Joe wrote:
Not my point. My point is that this year has been a bad one for movies in my opinion. Only a few good films and MSEG looks like another bad one to add to the pile based on its ads, which should theoretically show the best parts of the film.
Maybe it's just horrible marketing? Horrible premise, director (what has he done recently that was any good?), and stars (Luke is the less popular Wilson, and Uma is fugly and annoying). Is it even worth it, arguing with you? _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
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Joker's Thug #3
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nvm  _________________"People always want to tear you down when you're on top, like Napoleon back in the Roman Empire" - Dirk Diggler
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Dr. Lecter
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Killuminati510 wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Killuminati510 wrote: LitW already has 6.5m, it's ratio shouldnt be greater then 130, especially with this somewhat backloaded pattern it's showing. I think it's looking at minimum 8m max 10m Unless it's clogged, I definitely disagree. With a grade this bad, we usually get high ratios and especially with a flick that was blasted this much online. I don't see a ratio lower than 160-170. Village had a ratio of 130. This one is being blasted WAAAY more online than The Village with all the RT reviews and such and after The Village more people are interested in whether next Shyamalan will be top or flop. _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
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Harry Warden
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Outatime wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Joe wrote:
Not my point. My point is that this year has been a bad one for movies in my opinion. Only a few good films and MSEG looks like another bad one to add to the pile based on its ads, which should theoretically show the best parts of the film.
Maybe it's just horrible marketing? It's a shame Fox focused all of its marketing this summer on X3, The Omen, and John Tucker Must Die (not counting Prada because I didn't see much of it but there may have been a lot)....Garfield 2 and this probably could've done much better with a lot more marketing. I would say that their technique has worked with X3 doing gangbusters, The Omen breaking out (especially opening day) and Prada nearing triple digits. John Tucker Must Die looks to surprise as well next week. At least Stick It numbers should be attainable at the very least.
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Village had way more hate then LitW, I think at one point it had a C. LitW looks to be close to a B- looking at the written reviews.
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Dr. Lecter
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Outatime wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Joe wrote:
Not my point. My point is that this year has been a bad one for movies in my opinion. Only a few good films and MSEG looks like another bad one to add to the pile based on its ads, which should theoretically show the best parts of the film.
Maybe it's just horrible marketing? It's a shame Fox focused all of its marketing this summer on X3, The Omen, and John Tucker Must Die (not counting Prada because I didn't see much of it but there may have been a lot)....Garfield 2 and this probably could've done much better with a lot more marketing. I agree, especially with *better* marketing because the concept sounds like they could make something funny out of it. Especially considering that John Tucker Must Die probably won't make much anyway. _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
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Dr. Lecter
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Killuminati510 wrote: Village had way more hate then LitW, I think at one point it had a C. LitW looks to be close to a B- looking at the written reviews. More hate, but less initial curiousity about it. The Village preceding LITW raised that. _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
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Harry Warden
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Joe wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Joe wrote:
Not my point. My point is that this year has been a bad one for movies in my opinion. Only a few good films and MSEG looks like another bad one to add to the pile based on its ads, which should theoretically show the best parts of the film.
Maybe it's just horrible marketing? Horrible premise, director (what has he done recently that was any good?), and stars (Luke is the less popular Wilson, and Uma is fugly and annoying). Is it even worth it, arguing with you? The premise isn't horrible? Reitman has actually done something worthwhile lately that I don't know about? Evolution, Six Days Seven Nights, Father's Day, and Junior were all pretty dire films.
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Kenspy
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Joe I just want to say I was in full agreement with the quote that formerly inhabited Mr. Lecter's sig 
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Dr. Lecter
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Joe wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Joe wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Joe wrote:
Not my point. My point is that this year has been a bad one for movies in my opinion. Only a few good films and MSEG looks like another bad one to add to the pile based on its ads, which should theoretically show the best parts of the film.
Maybe it's just horrible marketing? Horrible premise, director (what has he done recently that was any good?), and stars (Luke is the less popular Wilson, and Uma is fugly and annoying). Is it even worth it, arguing with you? The premise isn't horrible? Reitman has actually done something worthwhile lately that I don't know about? Evolution, Six Days Seven Nights, Father's Day, and Junior were all pretty dire films. All that doesn't mean that he can't make a good movie. The concept sounded promising to begin with and I think Thurman is a good actress (thankfully many will agree here with me). Also, let's not forget that Reitman did do Ghostbusters. _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
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Harry Warden
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 Dr. Lecter wrote: Joe wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Joe wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Joe wrote:
Not my point. My point is that this year has been a bad one for movies in my opinion. Only a few good films and MSEG looks like another bad one to add to the pile based on its ads, which should theoretically show the best parts of the film.
Maybe it's just horrible marketing? Horrible premise, director (what has he done recently that was any good?), and stars (Luke is the less popular Wilson, and Uma is fugly and annoying). Is it even worth it, arguing with you? The premise isn't horrible? Reitman has actually done something worthwhile lately that I don't know about? Evolution, Six Days Seven Nights, Father's Day, and Junior were all pretty dire films. All that doesn't mean that he can't make a good movie. The concept sounded promising to begin with and I think Thurman is a good actress (thankfully many will agree here with me). Also, let's not forget that Reitman did do Ghostbusters. And Rob Reiner did the brilliant When Harry Met Sally but hasn't done anything worthwhile recently.
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Dr. Lecter
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Joe wrote:
And Rob Reiner did the brilliant When Harry Met Sally but hasn't done anything worthwhile recently.
That means he'll never do anything decent? _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
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Harry Warden
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Joe wrote:
And Rob Reiner did the brilliant When Harry Met Sally but hasn't done anything worthwhile recently.
That means he'll never do anything decent? Maybe not.
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Dr. Lecter
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Joe wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Joe wrote:
And Rob Reiner did the brilliant When Harry Met Sally but hasn't done anything worthwhile recently.
That means he'll never do anything decent? Maybe not. Maybe yes. _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
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Harry Warden
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Joe wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Joe wrote:
And Rob Reiner did the brilliant When Harry Met Sally but hasn't done anything worthwhile recently.
That means he'll never do anything decent? Maybe not. Maybe yes. Maybe he's lost whatever he had when he was younger. His recent track record would indicate as such. He certainly isn't Spielberg where he can rebound easily.
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This argument isn't going anywhere and gets the thread off-track _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
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$8.5 million now looks as the best case scenario for Lady in the Water.
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