I think the island is very close to the Antarctic.

The reasons: Desmond said he went for 6 weeks due west and ended up at the island (traveled around the earth)

the Spanish (portuguese?) dudes were obviously there. And why would they be looking for the island in the Antarctic?

Locke, Eko, and Desmond are alive. If they weren't, Charlie would be running to the beach and screaming for help instead of calmly walking up to Claire and asking how the baby's doing.

They were in an arctic research station. Definitely not in a plane.

For a second I thought the cliffhanger would be another plane crashing on the island, especially after it showed that Desmond caused the first plane to crash. That would have been better, I think.

Btw, i'm in the 'very good finale' camp. Cliffhangers were awesome.

By the way

what the fuck was with ABC showing the beginning of 'Another 48 days' after the episode supposedly ended? Was that supposed to be a clue of sorts?

ANTarctic. You can't have a station like that in the Arctic region.

Are you sure they're not Russian (although I'd suppose you'd know better than any of us)? Seriously, Lost is exactly the type of show to perpetuate the all-Russians-play-chess stereotype.

If it's anything, it's Arctic, not antarctic. For one, it's more likely that Russians would have a research station closer to the motherland. Secondly, it would explain the polar bears.

Why not? Are the conditions really that more hostile than at the south pole?

You've got a point Plot. They were Russian, but it could be in the antarctic. It's plausible for the Russians to have a research station in the antarctic as well, I'm sure the States does as well. Though the polar bear thing makes sense.

It'll be on again for me in half an hour, on ABC this time, I'm gonna watch it again and see what I think. Maybe I'll catch something I missed.

I thought they spoke Spanish (I could definitely make out Spanish words there). But they could be Portuguese.

The reason I think it can't be Arctic is because the station looked more or less permanent (it's been there for at least 80 days of the show), and the Arctic regions is too volatile for that. There is no permanent ice there.

THEY WERE NOT RUSSIAN!

God.

Sorry.

When I watch it again I'll try and guess what language they're speaking.

FYI: Russians DO have research stations in the Antarctic (Vostok, Mirniy, etc.), but in any case those were not Russians.

Anyone try to crack this yet?

But that begs a question: why would the Spanish/Portuguese have a station in the Antarctic?

They could very well be from South America.

Hmm....Wikipedia says they are Portugese.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Hume (the last sentence)

Who knows?

The ending of this episode, more than anything, made me hate Charlie. The hatch just blew up, Locke, Eko, and Desmond might be dead, and all he cares about is Claire and the baby. He just stumbles back, nonchalantly, and puts the moves on her. What a moron.

Just realized, what the hell happened to Sayid? What did he see in the hatch? It's season 1 all over again!!!

So for the start of the season 3 premiere, there are currently 5, maybe 6 places where there are characters we have to follow: The majority of the lostaways on the beach, the captured Lostaways with the others, Sayid in the new hatch, Jin and Sun on the boat, and Michael and Walt on the other boat. The potential 6th place is the original hatch: Maybe Locke Eko and Desmond are stuck there due to debris blocking their exit (though that would be really upsetting because it would mean Charlie escaped and didn't give a rat's ass about them).

And if the writers decide to start showing us scenes with Penny trying to rescue them, that's 7 places to focus on for the season premiere. I'm really hoping they don't mess this up.

There was nothing in the hatch Sayid found. It was just a blank wall. He then started the fire, and went back to the boat. You can see him with Sun and Jin when the bright light shows up.

And I don't think they're gonna follow Michael & Walt. Neither of them are regulars next season, so I imagine they're just gonna let them go. And I doubt that they'll follow Penny too.

So you've got Jack, Kate and Sawyer captured (why did they want those three, anyway?), Hurley going back to the beach to spread the word (why did they want Hurley? Just to send him back?), Sayid, Sun, and Jin in the boat, and Desmond, Eko, and Locke in the hatch. Only four groups, not bad. And I do think Desmond is still alive, otherwise that bit at the end with his girlfriend is rendered meaningless.

I'm going to bed now, too tired to watch the episode again. I'll ponder it overnight and give my final thoughts in the morning.

My questions:

- Walt was "special," they took him for so long because he was so special, only to give him back without much hesitance. They did something to Walt as he said something like "they made me do tests," but we don't know what exactly. Why did they let Walt go, when they kept Rosseau's kid all this time? They had all the advantages at the time, so I don't buy that they were just following the deal made w/ Michael. Also, why is Walt special?

- They tempt us with Libby in the hospital with Hurley, and now a 2nd tempting. What is her story? It seems like its going to be good. Desmond imo will still be around next season, as he's a Libby link. Considering Libby seems to have had little to no role this whole season other than being a Hurley love interest, something tells me that she's going to play a huge role next season, even if she physically isn't there.

My feeling is, they chose Jack, Sawyer, and Kate because they are fairly strong individuals who they want to join their "others" group. But I wonder why Sayid wasn't in their group too. They showed no interest in getting him as well.

- Why is it that only that direction can take Michael/Walt back to the other world, and that they wont be able to come back?

- What are the others doing exactly?

BTW, [spoil]Desmond and Gale are season regulars next year. (rumored). Michael is not.[/spoil]


The producers say that Libby's story isn't done, and it will be revisited in other's flashbacks. Obviously she ended up in the mental ward because of her dead husband ("David" btw).


My guess is that they bit off more than they can chew.

Because Penny's father is one of the Hanso chairs (I think????).

Penny knew that Desmond is sailing in her father's race.

Obviously, her father is getting revenge on Desmond and keeping him away from her daughter.

Penny obviously knows something, and is now trying to find Desmond.

BTW, in case people forget, the giant parrot was in Exodus, Part 1.

Charlie survived near the hatch, I see no reason why Eko, Locke and Desmond aren't still alive except in the attempt to make more of a cliffhanger.

Other important tidbits... the plane crashed on September 22nd, 2004 and events are taking place now in Novemberish 2004, meaning that...

1) this is not Purgatory
2) they aren't in a time warp or something

I always had thought that the magnatism (confirmed early by Sayid) was somewhat responsible for the plane crash.

BTW, Michael and Walt left something behind. Can you guess what it is?

Arf!

Vincent