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What grade would you give this film?
A 55%  55%  [ 24 ]
B 16%  16%  [ 7 ]
C 18%  18%  [ 8 ]
D 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
F 9%  9%  [ 4 ]
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Colin Farrell being in this film didn't bug anyone?

I find him increasingly crummy to watch in films, and he is one reason I am sort of avoiding this film. That, and the generally poor reviews. And then there's the fact that it is 2 hours and 15 minutes long and apparently very tedious and boring.

But I am thinking of catching it anyways before it leaves the theatres here. The thing is, I am getting mixed messages. Part of me wants to see it because of the comments that it is good in using approrpiate symbolism, cinematography and music to express itself, and that is so me. If Malick does it well enough, then the film won't be boring. But I am certainly afraid of being stuck in a theatre bored for 2 hours. I've never walked out of a movie and am not going to now. You need to watch an entire film in order to have the right to slam it (or praise it).

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MikeQ. wrote:
Colin Farrell being in this film didn't bug anyone?

He only had 2 pages of dialog and doesn't talk more than 2 lines in the first 30 minutes = Good!


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MikeQ. wrote:
Colin Farrell being in this film didn't bug anyone?


It bugged me going into it. He was the weakest link of the main four characters, but he held up. Wouldn't here me saying he should be getting any acting noms any time soon, but he didn't ruin the movie either. He was just...there.

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I find him increasingly crummy to watch in films, and he is one reason I am sort of avoiding this film. That, and the generally poor reviews. And then there's the fact that it is 2 hours and 15 minutes long and apparently very tedious and boring.


It could happen. But knowing your more melodramatic tastes, I'd guess you'll be one of the people that isn't turned off by it. Just guessing, its fair to say enough people were bored. But if you don't like it, leave after an hour like Zingy, but sneak into another movie, I guess. I still would say it was worth giving it a shot (but I think my views are pretty clear on this movie already, and my issues were content, not form).

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But I am thinking of catching it anyways before it leaves the theatres here.


You should. Its "the" big screen experience of the year. I don't see it being nearly so enthralling on a small tv. It was made to be watched larger than life...like Fellini films.

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The thing is, I am getting mixed messages. Part of me wants to see it because of the comments that it is good in using approrpiate symbolism, cinematography and music to express itself, and that is so me. If Malick does it well enough, then the film won't be boring. But I am certainly afraid of being stuck in a theatre bored for 2 hours. I've never walked out of a movie and am not going to now. You need to watch an entire film in order to have the right to slam it (or praise it).

PEACE, Mike.


I'd say give it a try. :-) But you can wait and see, as I know a few more people went to check it out tonight, and you can hear more views of the film before you head out. Right now I do know at least two people who hated this movie, but check out what they like and don't like, and see if you agree with them usually. If you do, it might not be for you.


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andaroo wrote:
MikeQ. wrote:
Colin Farrell being in this film didn't bug anyone?

He only had 2 pages of dialog and doesn't talk more than 2 lines in the first 30 minutes = Good!


Seriously? Well, that is definately good news. Really.

@dolcevita: Thank you! Does the film play out like a romance? I guess what I'm trying to ask is what "genre" you would stick it under. I usually love well crafted love stories. I'm a sucker for this stuff. I know the general story of Pocahontas, and what direction does Malick try to take? (without spoiling the movie too much for me). I can tell you now all of the Kilcher hype is definately making me excited to see her specifically on film.

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MikeQ. wrote:
andaroo wrote:
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Colin Farrell being in this film didn't bug anyone?

He only had 2 pages of dialog and doesn't talk more than 2 lines in the first 30 minutes = Good!


Seriously? Well, that is definately good news. Really.

@dolcevita: Thank you! Does the film play out like a romance? I guess what I'm trying to ask is what "genre" you would stick it under. I usually love well crafted love stories. I'm a sucker for this stuff.


Well, its certainly the biggest love story of the year. Take that as you will. For me, that's actually the negative aspect of the historic reading, but it seemed to borrow everyone less than me. Check in the early pages when i talk to Kypade about other readings of the first encounter. But yes, its a love story. Its also hard to confine it to just that, as the voiceovers are alot about perceptions of settlement, and there's also a clear (to me at least) parallel erected between Pocahontas and Virginia/ The Americas. Like, when the ruminate about her, its a double commment on where they hope and feel they'll fit into properity and conquest. And her decisions also mimic the decision of The Land to reward the diligent farmer (Bale) over the adventure seeking rogue (Farell).

Hope that answers your question?

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I know the general story of Pocahontas,
Then you'll either love or hate the content depending on what you've learned.

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and what direction does Malick try to take? (without spoiling the movie too much for me). I can tell you now all of the Kilcher hype is definately making me excited to see her specifically on film.

PEACE, Mike.


There's no way to "spoil" the movie. Its not like there are twists and curveballs tossed at you. Everyone knows what technically happened. I hope the above made it clear, if not, Jeff and i wrote full reviews, and there's the dozens in this thread as well. Malick takes the direction of perception and projection onto the lady and the land.

Kilcher is not to be missed.

That's how I would sum it up.


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MikeQ. wrote:
I can tell you now all of the Kilcher hype is definately making me excited to see her specifically on film.

PEACE, Mike.


I think most would agree that her film debut is impressive to say the least.


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loyalfromlondon wrote:
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What's so specially about 65mm?

:unsure:


I was going to ask the same thing :oops: I'm so clueless about these aspects of filmmaking.


It's all about the quality of the stock. Most of your Imax films are shot in 70mm. But 65mm/70mm is very expensive compared to 35mm. You'll often get 35mm prints blown-up for some Imax theatres.


Just to clarify...

While it's true that IMAX uses 70mm film stock, the frame is oriented the other way to allow a much picture larger area:
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It is in fact 3 times as big as a 70mm film frame and 10x bigger than a 35mm film frame...


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Hmm, thank you dolce.

If I end up checking it out, I'll be posting my comments here, definately. Hope I am in for a surprise.

I saw GNAGL yesterday, and I found myself loving that more than I thought I would, so hopefully that's a good sign.

PEACE, Mike.


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bradley witherberry wrote:
loyalfromlondon wrote:
Neostorm wrote:
lennier wrote:
What's so specially about 65mm?

:unsure:


I was going to ask the same thing :oops: I'm so clueless about these aspects of filmmaking.


It's all about the quality of the stock. Most of your Imax films are shot in 70mm. But 65mm/70mm is very expensive compared to 35mm. You'll often get 35mm prints blown-up for some Imax theatres.


Just to clarify...

While it's true that IMAX uses 70mm film stock, the frame is oriented the other way to allow a much picture larger area:
Image
It is in fact 3 times as big as a 70mm film frame and 10x bigger than a 35mm film frame...


that goes without saying

If anyone is really interested in the technical facts behind 65mm/70mm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/70_mm_film


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If this doesn't get a single damn Oscar nod...Hopefully it'll get Cinematography, but it looks like Makeup may be the only chance it has. :disgust:


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Er... well I didn't love it. :oops:

But, I did enjoy it. I felt like I didn't get into it as much as I wanted to. It's an extremely well made film, though. Kilcher is great, and Farrell is decent I suppose. I can't really go into detail of the problems I had with it.

I'd give it a B, I think. Need to let it sink in...


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You see what you guys did?

Get people's hopes up and set them up for a disappointment.

:tongue:


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Zingaling wrote:
You see what you guys did?

Get people's hopes up and set them up for a disappointment.

:tongue:


Yea, because B+ is so terrible.


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lennier wrote:
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You see what you guys did?

Get people's hopes up and set them up for a disappointment.

:tongue:


Yea, because B+ is so terrible.


Yeah, ignore the words and read the grade, right?

He said he didn't love it.

It's a change.


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Zingaling wrote:
lennier wrote:
Zingaling wrote:
You see what you guys did?

Get people's hopes up and set them up for a disappointment.

:tongue:


Yea, because B+ is so terrible.


Yeah, ignore the words and read the grade, right?

He said he didn't love it.

It's a change.


Get over it. He's with us, not you.

Though he only gets a key chain for the club since he didn't give it an A range score.


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Get over it?

I never said he was 'with me'.

All I ever said was that I think the non-stop "OMG DIS IZ DA BES MOVEE EVA, <3333333" comments has people's expectations extremely high, and it could make the difference between the letter grades you love so much, lennier.

You've twisted my comment (which had a "tongue" emoticon for a reason) into something it's not. But I'm not surprised.


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Zingaling wrote:
Get over it?

I never said he was 'with me'.

All I ever said was that I think the non-stop "OMG DIS IZ DA BES MOVEE EVA, <3333333" comments has people's expectations extremely high, and it could make the difference between the letter grades you love so much, lennier.

You've twisted my comment (which had a "tongue" emoticon for a reason) into something it's not. But I'm not surprised.


Are you serious? :hahaha:


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The New World has driven Zingaling insane.

It's probably because he hates Native Americans.


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The New World has driven Zingaling insane.

It's probably because he hates Native Americans.


They're called Indians.

Oh, wait.

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My goodness, what a frustrating film. I'm not sure how to give it a grade. The film is certainly poetic, but no film has challenged my attention spans and tested my patience as much as this one did. I need to think this over.

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andaroo wrote:
The New World has driven Zingaling insane.

It's probably because he hates Native Americans.



That would explain why he doesn't like me much, huh? :biggrin:


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xiayun wrote:
My goodness, what a frustrating film. I'm not sure how to give it a grade. The film is certainly poetic, but no film has challenged my attention spans and tested my patience as much as this one did. I need to think this over.


Awwwwe. I guess you and PE might have felt the same thing. Did it feel austere or distant? Sorry for the leading you astray. :sad:


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dolcevita wrote:
xiayun wrote:
My goodness, what a frustrating film. I'm not sure how to give it a grade. The film is certainly poetic, but no film has challenged my attention spans and tested my patience as much as this one did. I need to think this over.


Awwwwe. I guess you and PE might have felt the same thing. Did it feel austere or distant? Sorry for the leading you astray. :sad:


I'd say distant. Knowing Malick's particular style from The Thin Red Line (a film I enjoyed), I knew what to expect going in and was willing to bend over backward when analyzing it. Still, I think one needs to be in the right mood to see the film. I respect everything that was put on screen, the beautiful shots and the score, but I just didn't get into the flow and couldn't enjoy it. It's a very challenging film.

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And so it begins.


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Zingaling wrote:
And so it begins.

xiayun and PE can still get honorary badges.

Actually, anybody who didn't like it but still has an interesting point of view can get honorary badges.


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