So the scenes shot in 65 might be the particularly stunning ones (The opening sequence, any scene that focuses solely on the movement of the grass in the winds, etc)

Aww, we really need those, judging by TNW's box office.

So, what was everyone's favorite sequence/scene? What really stood out to you?

In my opinion, the two classic scenes would be the opening sequence which played as the credits rolled. The ships, the swimming, everything. Wow. The other would be the ending, as "Rebecca" chases her son through the garden and the music sets in. Wow.

Easily Pocahontas and her Brother running through the grass.. Great scene.

The opening sequence.
Pretty much the entire sequence of John living in the Native American tribe, espically the moments with him and Rebecca.
The sequence directly after Rebecca and John Rolfe are married, playing in the muddy field, rasing their child...
The closing moments in England.

Pretty much whenever Mallick let his images, his actors, and Horner's score do all the work.

Favourite scene, wow....

Well, the opening ship scene (sort of obvious )

AND

Rebecca chasing her son
Rebecca frolicking with her brother
John Smith growing with the natives
Rebecca lovingly with John Smith
Rebecca lovingly with John Rolfe

Without knowing for sure, those are good guesses.

You might have me groomed into a pretentious, New World lovin' cinephile yet, Sir.

Since you said 70mm is used for Imax, it makes sense that the higher quality film has more clarity. One of the things I remember best about those scenes I mentioned was the clarity. It was shocking.

Oh also the scene where the Native women are doing some type of spiritual resucitation on John Smith is good too

That and the opening scene were my favorites.

There's been a lot of talk in the media about how they went to painstaking care to recreate Pocahontas's native language in the movie. Did the Englishmen also speak with period accents and word usage? Pronunciations of many words was different back then. Or do the actors playing Englishmen in the New World speak not very different from modern people?

Also, can I assume Bedard and Bale were cast partly due to their having been in the Disney cartoon about Pocahontas? I'm not saying they do a bad job, maybe they do a great job, just wondering how much of an accident that is.

As far as Bedard goes, she's a staple of movies with Indigenous characters. She did Smoke Signals, Into the West, Navajo Blues, Crazy Horse, and the list goes on. Her and Tantoo Cardinal are in almst everything. Like Gary Farmer and Wes Studi, heh.

I don't know about Bale.

So Archie, are you gonna go see it soon?

As for scenes, certainly when they're first running up ot the shore to see the ships arrive. Also, when Rebecca first visits the Royal court (more so than even the gardens for me, but the England visit was all good). I liked all the random scenes in the field where she would be play acting. They were interesting, because it was never elaborated what/who she was mimicking, but they showed her sense of humour. I like when she's working in the field with Bale, and he's sitting their wondering what she must think all day, as she never speaks. Also when she is first presented with the British shoes, it was hilarious.

Indeed.

Well timed levity.

So true. But there's hope. It fell less than End of the Spear this weekend.

Jeff, Loyal, you guys are like the backbone of the movement. I like your front page review (Jeff) and most likely way more people read it because it was well times with the wider release. So cheers.

May I point out, despite only having maybe 15 people see this movie, we've already eclipsed the thread length of BBM. Damn we know how to make a ton of noise. KEEP IT UP! Maybe this is, like, the beginning of The New World revoultion, and it'll rise 50% b.o. next weekend. EVeryone pester ten friends into seeing it before next Sunday!

I've told 4 friends and none have shown interest I shall try harder

Hardly any of my friends have taken an interests.

Interestingly enough, however, the friday it opened wide here I ran into a group of friends coming out of the movies (I was on my way in to see BBM). They had seen the New World and all of them said they liked it (though it wasn't as quite an enthusiastic response as mine, heh).

That said, maybe there is hope for the next generation.

Colin Farrell being in this film didn't bug anyone?

I find him increasingly crummy to watch in films, and he is one reason I am sort of avoiding this film. That, and the generally poor reviews. And then there's the fact that it is 2 hours and 15 minutes long and apparently very tedious and boring.

But I am thinking of catching it anyways before it leaves the theatres here. The thing is, I am getting mixed messages. Part of me wants to see it because of the comments that it is good in using approrpiate symbolism, cinematography and music to express itself, and that is so me. If Malick does it well enough, then the film won't be boring. But I am certainly afraid of being stuck in a theatre bored for 2 hours. I've never walked out of a movie and am not going to now. You need to watch an entire film in order to have the right to slam it (or praise it).

PEACE, Mike.

He only had 2 pages of dialog and doesn't talk more than 2 lines in the first 30 minutes = Good!

It bugged me going into it. He was the weakest link of the main four characters, but he held up. Wouldn't here me saying he should be getting any acting noms any time soon, but he didn't ruin the movie either. He was just...there.



It could happen. But knowing your more melodramatic tastes, I'd guess you'll be one of the people that isn't turned off by it. Just guessing, its fair to say enough people were bored. But if you don't like it, leave after an hour like Zingy, but sneak into another movie, I guess. I still would say it was worth giving it a shot (but I think my views are pretty clear on this movie already, and my issues were content, not form).



You should. Its "the" big screen experience of the year. I don't see it being nearly so enthralling on a small tv. It was made to be watched larger than life...like Fellini films.



I'd say give it a try. :-) But you can wait and see, as I know a few more people went to check it out tonight, and you can hear more views of the film before you head out. Right now I do know at least two people who hated this movie, but check out what they like and don't like, and see if you agree with them usually. If you do, it might not be for you.

Seriously? Well, that is definately good news. Really.

@dolcevita: Thank you! Does the film play out like a romance? I guess what I'm trying to ask is what "genre" you would stick it under. I usually love well crafted love stories. I'm a sucker for this stuff. I know the general story of Pocahontas, and what direction does Malick try to take? (without spoiling the movie too much for me). I can tell you now all of the Kilcher hype is definately making me excited to see her specifically on film.

PEACE, Mike.

Well, its certainly the biggest love story of the year. Take that as you will. For me, that's actually the negative aspect of the historic reading, but it seemed to borrow everyone less than me. Check in the early pages when i talk to Kypade about other readings of the first encounter. But yes, its a love story. Its also hard to confine it to just that, as the voiceovers are alot about perceptions of settlement, and there's also a clear (to me at least) parallel erected between Pocahontas and Virginia/ The Americas. Like, when the ruminate about her, its a double commment on where they hope and feel they'll fit into properity and conquest. And her decisions also mimic the decision of The Land to reward the diligent farmer (Bale) over the adventure seeking rogue (Farell).

Hope that answers your question?

Then you'll either love or hate the content depending on what you've learned.



There's no way to "spoil" the movie. Its not like there are twists and curveballs tossed at you. Everyone knows what technically happened. I hope the above made it clear, if not, Jeff and i wrote full reviews, and there's the dozens in this thread as well. Malick takes the direction of perception and projection onto the lady and the land.

Kilcher is not to be missed.

That's how I would sum it up.

I think most would agree that her film debut is impressive to say the least.

Just to clarify...

While it's true that IMAX uses 70mm film stock, the frame is oriented the other way to allow a much picture larger area:

It is in fact 3 times as big as a 70mm film frame and 10x bigger than a 35mm film frame...

Hmm, thank you dolce.

If I end up checking it out, I'll be posting my comments here, definately. Hope I am in for a surprise.

I saw GNAGL yesterday, and I found myself loving that more than I thought I would, so hopefully that's a good sign.

PEACE, Mike.