Blame Rob Marshall.They should have had gibson direct it,you know he would atleast let them talk japanese and it would have been bloodier and more cruel,that would have been awesome!

I see that the worst that this movie could do is get Art Direction, Cinematography and Costume Design (kind of like Girl WIth a Pearl Earring) only.

Blame Rob Marshall.They should have had gibson direct it,you know he would atleast let them talk japanese and it would have been bloodier and more cruel,that would have been awesome!

I think the best comparison for its worst case scenario is The Last Samurai - 1 supporting acting nom, 3 techs.

Something like this:

- Supporting Actress
- Art Direction
- Costume Design
- Score/Cinematography


The Last Samurai, which also starred Ken Watanabe - and was also set in Japan, got Supporting Actor, Art Direction, Costume design and Sound



but I still think it'll get Picture and Director, along with at least 5 other nominations..

Well, the movie that used to be pretty much one of the frontrunners for this year's Oscars have started out rather unimpressively out of the gates with 40% at RT (after five reviews) and some mostly "just decent" early reviews.

Still, the movie still has a huge push behind it. If you need to be convinced, just take a look at this thread by Loyal.

To those who will try and say that the same has been said about Jarhead, I would like to remind you that Jarhead's strengths were considered the war-movie genre and Sam Mendes. Geisha just has infinitely more.

Rob Marshall delivered one of the most-nominated movies ever with Chicago and if there is something he has definitely proven with Chicago, then that is that he is great with production values and style. One might argue over the movie's quality, but you must admit that it was a visual feast at least. As you may notice, he works with the same team on the movie's costume and production design as he did when making Chicago.

When you also have Steven Spielberg as the producer and John Williams as the composr, what really can go wrong?

Granted, the response so far has certainly not been as overwhelming as most have expected, but I really really have hard time believing that it still won't get plentiful of Oscar noms.



So what's the worst it can do, nominations-wise?



I think the very worst would be something similar to Cold Mountain. Funnily enough that was also a movie by a director whose movie won Oscars big time not too long ago (The English Patient) and it was also a history-based "epic" and an adaptation of an acclaimed and best-selling novel. Cold Mountain scored eight nominations at the Golden Globes in its year and shocked many not getting nominated for Best Picture in its year. It still scored seven Academy Awards nominations: Best Song (two noms), Best Score, Best Cinematography, Best Editing, Best Actor and Best Supporting Actress. It won only the Best Sup. Actress trophy.

Before anyone jumps at me now, I still think that Geisha will be nominated for Best Picture and most likely Best Director as well, unless there is a major screw-up with this movie. But I am speaking of the worst-case scenario here. In that scenario, I think Cold Mountain is the best recent comparison I can come up with.

I don't see Memoirs of a Geisha getting less than 7 nominations. That would be the worst I'd say it will do. Those are the ones I am seeing in the worst-case scenario:

Best Score
Best Costume Design
Best Cinematography
Best Art Direction
Best Editing
Best Actress
Best Supporting Actress


What do you think is the worst it can perform nominations-wise?

Wow, FIVE AVERAGE REVIEWS were out and I suppose that already spelled doom for the movie.

Not to mention that Ray actually started out just as badly until it got to over 20 reviews.

and since you asked > YES.

Seriously, for someone who makes more stupid threads and polls than there are stupid news and articles in Britain's The Guardian (sorry, what an insult to The Guardian), I don't think you should be complaining about a thread that contains more than ten own words and a question mark in the first post : )

Lecter, please tell me which threads you are talking about. Cause mostly they are about current movies. Please lets try putting something out there instead of your big mouth.

and as we know English and analyzing things are not your strong point so I will point out in very small words that I asked a question to everyone that you of course missed.

and now back to my original question for anybody

Looking back, did this ever have a chance - and as X said , if not for the time-release, this might have been ..............

Maybe the North County or Cinderella Man of the Oscar release season.

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I think people are not blind. And the question is dumb, vague and has been approached in different discussions before.

As I suspected months ago, Memoirs is ending up off putting, probably by that damn Anglicization. I'm not a fan of movies like Hero, Daggers, or even 2046, but I think Geisha would have been absolutely epic if presented in Japanese. That said, I still haven't seen the movie and should probably shut the hell up about it.

With the same cast, though? I mean it'd still be Chinese actresses speaking and playing Japanese. It#s just that we would notice less of it, but it'd probably be equally hard for them (hurting their performance) and would not come across well in, say, Japan.