What are your Thanksgiving plans this year?
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NCAR
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Jon Lyrik wrote: I feel a little guilty celebrating Thanksgiving, considering the founding of the country ended up with the ruthless slaughter of millions of Indians, all in the name of imperialism and expansionism.
But...the turkey and candied yams and cranberry sauce make it alll better, even with having some slight Indian background.
I'm an evil bastard.
Dude, get over it. The people associated with Thanksgiving (Pilgrims) came to this land to escape religious persecution and lived peaceably with their Native neighbors. That SHOULD be celebrated. No need for guilt.
It was later immigrants who came for profit that decided they needed to kill all the natives.
As for me, my new wife and I are hosting 15 people for Thanksgiving - get out the card tables and folding chairs!

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Mon Nov 22, 2004 12:23 pm |
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Libs
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Chris wrote: Libs wrote: Heh, I'm leaving Virginia to go to Florida. Have fun with the frigid weather. Libs, where in Virginia do you live may I ask? I have family there, both in Virginia Beach and close to Roanoke. Do you know where Smith Mountain Lake is? My Grandma lives there.
I live close to DC. I'm not sure where Smith Mountain Lake is, though.
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 4:45 pm |
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Chris
life begins now
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Libs wrote: Chris wrote: Libs wrote: Heh, I'm leaving Virginia to go to Florida. Have fun with the frigid weather. Libs, where in Virginia do you live may I ask? I have family there, both in Virginia Beach and close to Roanoke. Do you know where Smith Mountain Lake is? My Grandma lives there. I live close to DC. I'm not sure where Smith Mountain Lake is, though.
It's close to Roanoke in the Southern portion, probably a good 150 or so miles from D.C. I think it's the largest lake in Virgina.
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:17 pm |
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bABA
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I am receiving several complaints that people want to post in this thread but its being spammed repeatedly. Guys, please refrain from hijacking this thread any longer. I don't mind spam myself but not the expense of completely sacrificing the topic.
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:11 pm |
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dolcevita
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Jon Lyrik wrote: I feel a little guilty celebrating Thanksgiving, considering the founding of the country ended up with the ruthless slaughter of millions of Indians, all in the name of imperialism and expansionism.
But...the turkey and candied yams and cranberry sauce make it alll better, even with having some slight Indian background.
I'm an evil bastard.
Yes, well, I kinda do both, so I guess that makes me a flip-flopper.
I go up to visit my family in Boston, but when I lived there I always went down to annual National Day of Mourning at Plymouth Rock, and later would come home and have a nice meal with my family. I'll be doing the same thing this year.
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:16 pm |
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dolcevita
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NCAR wrote: Jon Lyrik wrote: I feel a little guilty celebrating Thanksgiving, considering the founding of the country ended up with the ruthless slaughter of millions of Indians, all in the name of imperialism and expansionism.
But...the turkey and candied yams and cranberry sauce make it alll better, even with having some slight Indian background.
I'm an evil bastard. Dude, get over it. The people associated with Thanksgiving (Pilgrims) came to this land to escape religious persecution and lived peaceably with their Native neighbors. That SHOULD be celebrated. No need for guilt. It was later immigrants who came for profit that decided they needed to kill all the natives. As for me, my new wife and I are hosting 15 people for Thanksgiving - get out the card tables and folding chairs! 
Uh...King Philip's War was only about 40 years after the original touchdown in MA. It wasn't later immigrants, it was pretty much one generation removed, and was the original settler's kids. And it didn't come out of nowhere either. There was a history, its not like the Wompanoag were being treated like kings and then suddenly decided to pick a fight for the fun of it.
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Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:22 pm |
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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48677 Location: Arlington, VA
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Bump, as Turkey Day quickly approaches.
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Tue Nov 23, 2004 6:42 pm |
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Passionate Thug
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I'd like to wish everyone a HAPPY THANKSGIVING

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Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:33 am |
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The Scottie
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I am going to my sisters house in San Diego. Her boyfriend (Mario) makes the best turkeys you can ever taste (he fries it instead of baking it). He is such a professional at cooking.
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:51 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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Shad wrote: Yes, Atoddr, Tokyo is the most expensive city in the world, followed by London in second place.
No kidding!
When I was in London...man, I thought they must be insane with their prices. It was a really hot day and heck, I was thirsty. So I wanted to get a can of Coke and that was somewhere around the St. Paul Cathedral...
So I see a guy selling beverages and ask him how much a 0.33 l Coke costs and he says "2 pounds" which is around $4. *shakes head*
Of course, when I heard that I wasn't thirsty anymore.
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:35 am |
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Bodrul
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Most of England is like that.  Anyway, I visited Buckingham Palace, outside there was drink vendor, charging £1.80 for a 450ml of water  thats about $3.50
So, what day is Thanksgiving?
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:08 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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Simply insane!
I went into a video store and they sold used VHS for over £10
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:12 pm |
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Bodrul
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The damn illegal immigrants on the road side were selling pirate dvds for £12 each. 
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 12:16 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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hans wrote: The damn illegal immigrants on the road side were selling pirate dvds for £12 each. 
That ruins the whole purpose of pirate DVDs. They should be cheap! 
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:35 pm |
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Snrub
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:02 pm |
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Snrub
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hans wrote: Most of England is like that.  Anyway, I visited Buckingham Palace, outside there was drink vendor, charging £1.80 for a 450ml of water  thats about $3.50 So, what day is Thanksgiving?
How much of England have you seen? London's notoriously expensive yes, but here in Manchester I've yet to find anywhere that sells cans of coke for more than 60 pence.
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:05 pm |
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matatonio
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YEAH! tomorrow is the big Turkey day!! 8)
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:05 pm |
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Bodrul
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Snrub wrote: hans wrote: Most of England is like that.  Anyway, I visited Buckingham Palace, outside there was drink vendor, charging £1.80 for a 450ml of water  thats about $3.50 So, what day is Thanksgiving? How much of England have you seen? London's notoriously expensive yes, but here in Manchester I've yet to find anywhere that sells cans of coke for more than 60 pence.
I live in cambridge, damn expensive, but yeah your right it is cheaper up north
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:28 pm |
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Snrub
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hans wrote: Snrub wrote: hans wrote: Most of England is like that.  Anyway, I visited Buckingham Palace, outside there was drink vendor, charging £1.80 for a 450ml of water  thats about $3.50 So, what day is Thanksgiving? How much of England have you seen? London's notoriously expensive yes, but here in Manchester I've yet to find anywhere that sells cans of coke for more than 60 pence. I live in cambridge, damn expensive, but yeah your right it is cheaper up north
Well, we are scum!
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:37 pm |
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makeshift
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NCAR wrote: Jon Lyrik wrote: I feel a little guilty celebrating Thanksgiving, considering the founding of the country ended up with the ruthless slaughter of millions of Indians, all in the name of imperialism and expansionism.
But...the turkey and candied yams and cranberry sauce make it alll better, even with having some slight Indian background.
I'm an evil bastard. Dude, get over it. The people associated with Thanksgiving (Pilgrims) came to this land to escape religious persecution and lived peaceably with their Native neighbors. That SHOULD be celebrated. No need for guilt. It was later immigrants who came for profit that decided they needed to kill all the natives. As for me, my new wife and I are hosting 15 people for Thanksgiving - get out the card tables and folding chairs! 
Wow. I'd expect a lawyer to be slightly more educated than this. Then again, you are a conservative.... :wink:
The Pilgrims were no friends to the Indians. They were engaged in a war of extermination and territory against them while they were pretending to be their friends. Just days before the Thanksgiving love fest your history books tell you about, a group of Pilgrims led by Myles Standish tried to chop off the head of a local chief. They deliberately caused a fight between two friendly Indians in an attempt to get "better intelligence and make them both more diligent." An 11-foot-high wall was built around the entire Pilgrim's settlement for the sole purpose of keeping the Indians out. Any Indian who came within the vicinity of the Pilgrim settlement was subject to robbery, enslavement, or murder. Myles Standish (a "Pilgrim") went to the Indians pretending to be a trader and then beheaded an Indian man named Wituwamat. He brought the head to Plymouth where he stuck it on a wooden spike. According to Gary B. Nash, this was done "as a symbol of white power." Standish later had the Indian man's young brother hanged from the rafters on top of this. So, as you can see, your Pilgrims were hardly the peaceful folk you'd like to believe.
As for my Thanksgiving plans, i'm kind of in the same boat as Dolce, and damn do I feel like a hypocrite. I'm not going to "celebrate" Thanksgiving, but my sister is making a huge vegeterian meal, so I have to go.
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:02 pm |
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matatonio
Teh Mexican
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Who doing after Thanksgiving shopping!?!?!
ill sure in hell going to go!, i saw some great stuff at Best Buy!!
6 hour sale!
theres going to be some nasty fighting! 
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:06 pm |
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kermit05
Hatchling
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Staying in town and running in a turkey trout! A great way to burn calories before the BIG feast.
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:07 pm |
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zingy
College Boy Z
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Going to my parents' friend's house for Thanksgiving. Then, seeing Alexander after Dinner, hopefully. 
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Wed Nov 24, 2004 9:09 pm |
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torrino
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Food, Food, and more food.
I'll probably see a movie with the family or watch a movie here.
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Thu Nov 25, 2004 12:29 pm |
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