The Presidential Race -- Results in First Post
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Maverikk
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 Mike Ventrella wrote:
Christ Almighty, the Republicans never shut up for eight years, and this was with peace, a great economy, and a balanced budget. Bush then got appointed President, alienated our allies, ran us into huge debt, and divided the country to the point where we are now. Were we Democrats supposed to just shut up while we saw what he was doing to the America we love?
For Republicans to state that Democrats complain too much is the height of hypocracy. I take it you are for a one party system, Mike? I'm a big Clinton fan, but I'm not going to try to blow smoke up anybody's ass in the name of communism. If we weren't a nation divided, then why did Bush win the election over Clinton's right hand man? Even if you agree with me that Gore really did win, you have to admit that it was a pretty divided vote, right down the middle.
The economy was going into the shitter under Clinton's watch. Had 911 happened under Clinton, he would have drove us into the same debts, because he would have had political pressure and pressure from the citizens of the US to go after the terrorists. I find it funny how people are constantly acting like there wasn't a huge support to go full out after terrorism after 911 happened. There was, and everybody was all for catching the bad guys. We didn't get Bin Laden, but we didn't get him under Clinton's watch either, and he did indeed try to.
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A. G.
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Krem wrote: Archie Gates wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: I'm gonna join this thread for today. You know, I am just wondering about one thing... If Kerry wins, what will the democrats complain about for the next 4 years?  That reminds me of when glasnost broke out and the USSR was going down the tubes and the USSR foreign minister said that they were going to do something terrible to the US: they were going to rob you of having an enemy. It's sad, they made a good enemy, but it's best with them gone. Similar to how Dems will feel about Bush. I'm keeping up with the evil empire theme, consistency and all.By thi slogic, we should all root for Kerry - cause that will definitely perpetuate the threat of Islamic terrorism :-P There will still be Tom Delay, he can be the new Darth Republicus.
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| Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:44 pm |
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Archie Gates wrote: Krem wrote: Archie Gates wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: I'm gonna join this thread for today. You know, I am just wondering about one thing... If Kerry wins, what will the democrats complain about for the next 4 years? That reminds me of when glasnost broke out and the USSR was going down the tubes and the USSR foreign minister said that they were going to do something terrible to the US: they were going to rob you of having an enemy. It's sad, they made a good enemy, but it's best with them gone. Similar to how Dems will feel about Bush. I'm keeping up with the evil empire theme, consistency and all.By thi slogic, we should all root for Kerry - cause that will definitely perpetuate the threat of Islamic terrorism :-P There will still be Tom Delay, he can be the new Darth Republicus.
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rusty
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Is that Tom Bosley sitting over there?
Why would Tom Bosley be riding a train through the swiss alps?
I don't know, it just looks like Tom Bosley over there.
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Maximus
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rusty wrote: Eagle wrote: Guys!!!
Don't worry about the exit polls, they are meaningless.
All the people voting for bush are still at work, while all the homeless and unemployed who are voting for kerry literally have nothing better to do!
College students who vote also tend to vote early.
From the spin master, I am signing off.
KJ That's the best thing I've heard today so damn true, isn't it?
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Plot
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rusty wrote: Is that Tom Bosley sitting over there?
Why would Tom Bosley be riding a train through the swiss alps?
I don't know, it just looks like Tom Bosley over there. What does this have to do with the election? Did I miss a few posts or something?
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| Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:53 pm |
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rusty
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Plot wrote: rusty wrote: Is that Tom Bosley sitting over there?
Why would Tom Bosley be riding a train through the swiss alps?
I don't know, it just looks like Tom Bosley over there. What does this have to do with the election? Did I miss a few posts or something? What doesn't this have to do with the election!!!!
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Maximus
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rusty wrote: Plot wrote: rusty wrote: Is that Tom Bosley sitting over there?
Why would Tom Bosley be riding a train through the swiss alps?
I don't know, it just looks like Tom Bosley over there. What does this have to do with the election? Did I miss a few posts or something? What doesn't this have to do with the election!!!! *pffft* - the sound of me farting in your mouth.
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TonyMontana
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It's amazing how low those wacky Republicans will go to supress voter turnout...
Phony phone calls try to trick local voters
"Voters who received calls over the past few days saying their precincts have been moved should pay no heed, election officials said, and should go to their previously assigned precincts. The calls are part of what appears to be an organized misinformation campaign, officials said.
“It’s criminal,†said Lake County Supervisor of Elections Emogene Stegall. “It’s the most terrible thing. I have never seen anything like this happen here.â€Â
Stegall’s office received calls Monday afternoon from four concerned residents, all receiving the same automated message on their answering machines. The message told the voters their precincts had changed and they should go to a different location, one which Stegall said does not exist.
All of the calls, said Stegall, were made to registered Democrats. The complaints came from all over the county.
While the four complaints came in rapid succession, calls from confused voters were coming in all morning. It wasn’t until a certain number of voters asked questions about a precinct being moved that election officials realized this was an attempt to suppress turnout, Stegall said. "
http://news.mywebpal.com/partners/701/public/news586107.html
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Dr. Lecter
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Mike Ventrella wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: I'm gonna join this thread for today. You know, I am just wondering about one thing... If Kerry wins, what will the democrats complain about for the next 4 years? Good grief, did you not live through the Clinton years? The republicans never stopped griping! They tried everything they could to get rid of him, bitched about him at every opportunity, accused him and his wife of every crime under the sun, and then tried to impeach the guy after he lied about sex during a deposition that wasn't anyone's friggin' business in the irst place. They then went to court to stop votes from being counted, and staged a recall so they could put their man Schwarzenegger in, all of which led Bill Mahr to observe "Republicans will do anything it takes to win except get the most votes." Christ Almighty, the Republicans never shut up for eight years, and this was with peace, a great economy, and a balanced budget. Bush then got appointed President, alienated our allies, ran us into huge debt, and divided the country to the point where we are now. Were we Democrats supposed to just shut up while we saw what he was doing to the America we love? For Republicans to state that Democrats complain too much is the height of hypocracy. And I think you forgot to take some pills to calm down.
If it was the opposite situation, if a Democrat was a president and the Republicans were complaining for the last 4 years, I would have said the same to them. I don't even live in the USA, why should I be especially supportive of a certain party? Sure do I favor one, but I am not as much into it as most Americans are. My whole point was that people will always complain, no matter who the president is. It is the truth and anyone who says it is not, is in denial.
Therefore, calm down. 
Oh and by the way, sou say "Republicans will do anything it takes to win". Well, of course they do. Everyone would. If you go into politics and want to do everything the right and the fair way, then you shouldn't even bother going into politics at all. _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
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Dr. Lecter
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Krem wrote: Archie Gates wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: I'm gonna join this thread for today. You know, I am just wondering about one thing... If Kerry wins, what will the democrats complain about for the next 4 years? That reminds me of when glasnost broke out and the USSR was going down the tubes and the USSR foreign minister said that they were going to do something terrible to the US: they were going to rob you of having an enemy. It's sad, they made a good enemy, but it's best with them gone. Similar to how Dems will feel about Bush. I'm keeping up with the evil empire theme, consistency and all.By this slogic, we should all root for Kerry - cause that will definitely perpetuate the threat of Islamic terrorism :-P _________________The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
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A. G.
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Other dirty tricks Dems played on Republicans today:
1. Bought up all the Perrier around poll booths so republicans waiting in line would thirst to death.
2. Told Republican voters that if Bush is re-elected he'll start wearing french cuffs.
3. Bought and sold stocks today like crazy so the Republicans would waste valuable voting time calling their brokers in a panic.
4. Handed out photos of all the non-lesbian offspring of Kerry and Edwards.
5. Threatened that if Kerry is defeated, Theresa will buy a top NASCAR team and end up on Republican TV sets all the time.
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makeshift
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I just got back from voting, and I feel great. I went D all the way down, obviously. There was tons of people there. No where to park or stand in line. It was madness. I'm am officialy bouncing off the walls in anticipation for tonight.
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| Tue Nov 02, 2004 6:17 pm |
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andaroo1
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I voted today... not the first time, I've probably done it 8 times previously.
And I have NEVER felt more dirty in my entire life.
Responsibility... feh. Screw it, it's a bunch of garbage.
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TonyMontana
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andaroo wrote: I voted today... not the first time, I've probably done it 8 times previously.
And I have NEVER felt more dirty in my entire life.
Responsibility... feh. Screw it, it's a bunch of garbage. If you voted 8 times today, you should feel very dirty!
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| Tue Nov 02, 2004 6:25 pm |
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Chris
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Just got back from voting. What a damn mess! lol...the traffic was terrible and I waited 45 minutes!! But it's all good, I guess.
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Groucho
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Maverikk wrote:
I take it you are for a one party system, Mike?
That's a pretty big leap of logic, don't you think?
Look, I thought my point was clear: The Democrats may have complained about Bush (and with some reason) but the Republicans are certainly not content to sit back quietly and wait their turn when they lose an election, as we can see throughout the Clinton years. (And I don't recall anyone -- Democrat or Republican -- complaining to Clinton or Bush before 9/11 that he wasn't going after Osama bin Laden hard enough.)
The Republicans are certain to complain constantly for the next four years after Kerry is sworn in.
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Dr. Lecter
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Even though I don't live in the USA, I have to admit that I am pretty anxious to find out who's the winner.
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makeshift
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Here's a question for you guys - what's the best channel to watch for election night coverage? ABC? NBC? CBS?
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Chris
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makeshift_wings wrote: Here's a question for you guys - what's the best channel to watch for election night coverage? ABC? NBC? CBS? I've always liked NBC, but I try to switch between the three, and also the cable stations, to see what each is saying.
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| Tue Nov 02, 2004 6:29 pm |
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Maximus
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Fox news will be best. They are always the best. But if you think its the neocon station, I would watch NBC.
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| Tue Nov 02, 2004 6:34 pm |
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Groucho
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makeshift_wings wrote: Here's a question for you guys - what's the best channel to watch for election night coverage? ABC? NBC? CBS? I like MSNBC, so if the ones you chose, I'd say NBC. Chris Matthews rocks.
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| Tue Nov 02, 2004 6:35 pm |
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Chris
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Mike Ventrella wrote: makeshift_wings wrote: Here's a question for you guys - what's the best channel to watch for election night coverage? ABC? NBC? CBS? I like MSNBC, so if the ones you chose, I'd say NBC. Chris Matthews rocks. He covers the election on the broadcast station? I thought it was Tom Brokaw and those other guys.
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| Tue Nov 02, 2004 6:37 pm |
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Groucho
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Chris wrote: Mike Ventrella wrote: makeshift_wings wrote: Here's a question for you guys - what's the best channel to watch for election night coverage? ABC? NBC? CBS? I like MSNBC, so if the ones you chose, I'd say NBC. Chris Matthews rocks. He covers the election on the broadcast station? I thought it was Tom Brokaw and those other guys. Well, the ads on NBC Nightly News show him, so I think they are overlapping a lot that night.
Matthews is one of the few political talking heads who gives it just as hard to the democrats and the republicans. Most are so partisan that they cannot even say a bad word about their own candidates, it's terrible. (That's what Jon Stewart was complaining about)...
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Libs
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Eagle wrote: Guys!!!
Don't worry about the exit polls, they are meaningless.
All the people voting for bush are still at work, while all the homeless and unemployed who are voting for kerry literally have nothing better to do!
College students who vote also tend to vote early.
From the spin master, I am signing off.
KJ That's a really bad generalization there 
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