The Presidential Race -- Results in First Post
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bABA wrote: Tell me what you guys make of this: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1028-02.htmFlorida's Computers Have Already Counted Thousands of Votes for George W. Bush Before one vote was cast in early voting this week in Florida, the new touch-screen computer voting machines of Florida started out with a several-thousand vote lead for George W. Bush. That is, the mechanics of the new digital democracy boxes "spoil" votes at a predictably high rate in African-American precincts, effectively voiding enough votes cast for John Kerry to in a tight race, keep the White House safe from the will of the voters.
Sounds exactly the same as the headline about Philadelphia, only in reverse.
Commondreams is not realiable anyway.
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:06 pm |
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Libs
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Dr. Lecter wrote: I'm gonna join this thread for today. You know, I am just wondering about one thing... If Kerry wins, what will the democrats complain about for the next 4 years? 
Um, hah. The Democrats have mostly been complaining because of Bush.
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:07 pm |
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bABA
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Krem wrote: bABA wrote: Tell me what you guys make of this: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1028-02.htmFlorida's Computers Have Already Counted Thousands of Votes for George W. Bush Before one vote was cast in early voting this week in Florida, the new touch-screen computer voting machines of Florida started out with a several-thousand vote lead for George W. Bush. That is, the mechanics of the new digital democracy boxes "spoil" votes at a predictably high rate in African-American precincts, effectively voiding enough votes cast for John Kerry to in a tight race, keep the White House safe from the will of the voters. Sounds exactly the same as the headline about Philadelphia, only in reverse. Commondreams is not realiable anyway.
yes, you say that for just about everything that says something you don't wanna hear : )
anywya, whats the story in phlly?? whats the headline ... whos scamming who?? got link?
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:10 pm |
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Anonymous
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bABA wrote: Krem wrote: bABA wrote: Tell me what you guys make of this: http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1028-02.htmFlorida's Computers Have Already Counted Thousands of Votes for George W. Bush Before one vote was cast in early voting this week in Florida, the new touch-screen computer voting machines of Florida started out with a several-thousand vote lead for George W. Bush. That is, the mechanics of the new digital democracy boxes "spoil" votes at a predictably high rate in African-American precincts, effectively voiding enough votes cast for John Kerry to in a tight race, keep the White House safe from the will of the voters. Sounds exactly the same as the headline about Philadelphia, only in reverse. Commondreams is not realiable anyway. yes, you say that for just about everything that says something you don't wanna hear : ) anywya, whats the story in phlly?? whats the headline ... whos scamming who?? got link?
I posted it earlier in either this or the other election thread.
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:11 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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Libs wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: I'm gonna join this thread for today. You know, I am just wondering about one thing... If Kerry wins, what will the democrats complain about for the next 4 years?  Um, hah. The Democrats have mostly been complaining because of Bush.
That is exactly the reason why I asked this question. It lies in nature of people to complain about politicians and political situations all the time, so I am wondering what the democtras will be complaining about if Kerry wins and there won't be a Bush to hate 
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:13 pm |
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dolcevita
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We might as well give up on florida. i've been saying all along it is not a swing state on way or the other (legally or illegally that is). Its going to Bush, I had minimal doubt in my mind since Charlie touched shore. And that was quite some time ago.
This is the race of the Lakes region I think.
Wouldn't it be funny if it came down to New Mexico though?
-Dolce
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:14 pm |
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dolcevita
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Dr. Lecter wrote: Libs wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: I'm gonna join this thread for today. You know, I am just wondering about one thing... If Kerry wins, what will the democrats complain about for the next 4 years?  Um, hah. The Democrats have mostly been complaining because of Bush. That is exactly the reason why I asked this question. It lies in nature of people to complain about politicians and political situations all the time, so I am wondering what the democtras will be complaining about if Kerry wins and there won't be a Bush to hate 
Don't worry lecter, I guess I can only speak for myself, but I'm sure I'll find something to kvetch about. :wink:
That last one was for you two, Torri and Krem.
-Dolce
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:16 pm |
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Groucho
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Dr. Lecter wrote: I'm gonna join this thread for today. You know, I am just wondering about one thing... If Kerry wins, what will the democrats complain about for the next 4 years? 
Good grief, did you not live through the Clinton years? The republicans never stopped griping! They tried everything they could to get rid of him, bitched about him at every opportunity, accused him and his wife of every crime under the sun, and then tried to impeach the guy after he lied about sex during a deposition that wasn't anyone's friggin' business in the irst place.
They then went to court to stop votes from being counted, and staged a recall so they could put their man Schwarzenegger in, all of which led Bill Mahr to observe "Republicans will do anything it takes to win except get the most votes."
Christ Almighty, the Republicans never shut up for eight years, and this was with peace, a great economy, and a balanced budget. Bush then got appointed President, alienated our allies, ran us into huge debt, and divided the country to the point where we are now. Were we Democrats supposed to just shut up while we saw what he was doing to the America we love?
For Republicans to state that Democrats complain too much is the height of hypocracy.
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:19 pm |
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rusty
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dolcevita wrote: We might as well give up on florida. i've been saying all along it is not a swing state on way or the other (legally or illegally that is). Its going to Bush, I had minimal doubt in my mind since Charlie touched shore. And that was quite some time ago.
This is the race of the Lakes region I think.
Wouldn't it be funny if it came down to New Mexico though?
-Dolce
NOT THE NEW MEXICANS! They already have the fact of being new mexico to bear upon themselves! It would just create mass suicide if they had to decide it all.
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:19 pm |
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BacktotheFuture
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GO BUSH AND CHENEY!!!!
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:23 pm |
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xiayun
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Stock market took a sharp turn for the worse late in the afternoon.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u ... ocks_dc_25
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:24 pm |
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rusty
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BacktotheFuture wrote: GO BUSH AND CHENEY!!!!
GO BANANA!
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:24 pm |
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NCAR
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 Democrats are criminals
Well, prior to the election, there were a half dozen incidents in which Republican Party headquarters around the country were vandalized and robbed.
Apparently, the Democratic Party draws the highest class of citizen. As these two incidents on election eve show:
Slashed Tires in Milwaukee
About 30 rented cars and vans that were to be used in the Wisconsin Republican Party's get-out-the-vote effort had their tires slashed Tuesday morning, FOX News has learned, and the GOP condemned the act.
State Republican Party spokesman Chris Lato said the slashed tires "clearly were targeted sabotage" to hinder the party's work.
Milwaukee police said just after noon on Tuesday that they had a description of the suspect in the case. A private security guard reported a man running from the lot where the tires were slashed, according to Police Sgt. Ken Harris.
Full story here:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137323,00.html
And Fox News Channel also reported that a Republican Party office in Philadelphia was sprayed with graffitti overnight.
Gotta love those democrats ... no wonder they want felons to have the right to vote. They act like felons.
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:25 pm |
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rusty
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Nice little article there NCAR. Just goes to show how low democrats will go to get bush out of office. Sad isn't it.
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:27 pm |
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dolcevita
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 Re: Democrats are criminals
NCAR wrote: Gotta love those democrats ... no wonder they want felons to have the right to vote. They act like felons.
Hey C'mon now. You're not going to judge an entire 1/2 the country on a couple punks that pulled late Halloween pranks. I don't think every Republican is a criminal, and have made a point of seperating the the couple hundred members going to court in Ohio etc from, oh lets say, KJ members. Did I associate them with you, or Chris, or Krem, or Eagle? No. I really don't appreciate you saying I, and many others, act like Felons. Until now we've all conducted ourselves very maturely on these threads I believe. :?
-Dolce
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:30 pm |
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They're afraid of change, no surprise.
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:30 pm |
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BacktotheFuture
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BOO DEMOCRATS
YAY REPUBLICANS 
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:32 pm |
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A. G.
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dolcevita wrote: We might as well give up on florida. i've been saying all along it is not a swing state on way or the other (legally or illegally that is). Its going to Bush, I had minimal doubt in my mind since Charlie touched shore. And that was quite some time ago.
This is the race of the Lakes region I think.
Wouldn't it be funny if it came down to New Mexico though?
-Dolce
Oh ye of little faith. Did you know that 30% of all registered florida voters already voted before today? And that the exit polls of them showed a 9 point pro Kerry margin? So Bush has to decisively win Florida among those who voted today to eek out a win once you count in the absentee/early votes.
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:32 pm |
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xiayun
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Krem wrote: They're afraid of change, no surprise.
I think it's more than just afraid of change. The general opinion is Bush is better for the stock market than Kerry since he is more pro-business. Still pulling for Kerry though even if it means my stock wealth will continue to deterioate.
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:33 pm |
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rusty
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 Re: Democrats are criminals
dolcevita wrote: NCAR wrote: Gotta love those democrats ... no wonder they want felons to have the right to vote. They act like felons.
Hey C'mon now. You're not going to judge an entire 1/2 the country on a couple punks that pulled late Halloween pranks. I don't think every Republican is a criminal, and have made a point of seperating the the couple hundred members going to court in Ohio etc from, oh lets say, KJ members. Did I associate them with you, or Chris, or Krem, or Eagle? No. I really don't appreciate you saying I, and many others, act like Felons. Until now we've all conducted ourselves very maturely on these threads I believe. :? -Dolce
How bout I say Democrats minus Dolce? WOuld that make it better?
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:34 pm |
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xiayun wrote: Krem wrote: They're afraid of change, no surprise. I think it's more than just afraid of change. The general opinion is Bush is better for the stock market than Kerry since he is more pro-business. Still pulling for Kerry though even if it means my stock wealth will continue to deterioate.
With Kerry and a GOP congress, I'd actually expect the stock market to go up.
Still, it's the least of my worrites in thsi election.
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:37 pm |
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A. G.
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Dr. Lecter wrote: I'm gonna join this thread for today. You know, I am just wondering about one thing... If Kerry wins, what will the democrats complain about for the next 4 years? 
That reminds me of when glasnost broke out and the USSR was going down the tubes and the USSR foreign minister said that they were going to do something terrible to the US: they were going to rob you of having an enemy.
It's sad, they made a good enemy, but it's best with them gone.
Similar to how Dems will feel about Bush.
I'm keeping up with the evil empire theme, consistency and all.
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:38 pm |
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Eagle
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Guys!!!
Don't worry about the exit polls, they are meaningless.
All the people voting for bush are still at work, while all the homeless and unemployed who are voting for kerry literally have nothing better to do!
College students who vote also tend to vote early.
From the spin master, I am signing off.
KJ
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:40 pm |
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Archie Gates wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: I'm gonna join this thread for today. You know, I am just wondering about one thing... If Kerry wins, what will the democrats complain about for the next 4 years?  That reminds me of when glasnost broke out and the USSR was going down the tubes and the USSR foreign minister said that they were going to do something terrible to the US: they were going to rob you of having an enemy. It's sad, they made a good enemy, but it's best with them gone. Similar to how Dems will feel about Bush. I'm keeping up with the evil empire theme, consistency and all.
By thi slogic, we should all root for Kerry - cause that will definitely perpetuate the threat of Islamic terrorism :-P
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Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:41 pm |
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rusty
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Eagle wrote: Guys!!!
Don't worry about the exit polls, they are meaningless.
All the people voting for bush are still at work, while all the homeless and unemployed who are voting for kerry literally have nothing better to do!
College students who vote also tend to vote early.
From the spin master, I am signing off.
KJ
That's the best thing I've heard today 
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