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zwackerm
Hold the door!
Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21468 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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 Have you ever cheated or been cheated on?
Discuss. I've never been in a relationship so the answer is no for me.
Could you imagine circumstances under which you would cheat? And also what is considered cheating? Is cyber sex cheating? Is a drunken kiss (but nothing more) cheating? Is sexting cheating? Or only actual sex?
Last edited by zwackerm on Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Have you ever cheated or been cheated on?
Yes, I have been cheated on, it is why I am once divorced.
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Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:35 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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 Re: Have you ever cheated or been cheated on?
Not that I know of. How about you add the question of the people could imagine circumstances under which they would cheat? That'd make for an interesting discussion too. And also what is considered cheating? Is cyber sex cheating? Is a drunken kiss (but nothing more) cheating? Is sexting cheating? Or only actual sex? And so on... 
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FILMO
The Original
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:19 am Posts: 9808 Location: Suisse
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 Re: Have you ever cheated or been cheated on?
Man the topics here get more and more sinister. When the shit here at WOKJ started in late 2004 we had topics like
Ape eating other Ape`s poop (by Arsi) or Loyal getting almost assraped by pygmies during one of his travels.
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Chippy
KJ's Leading Pundit
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Have you ever cheated or been cheated on?
Loyal was not ALMOST assraped.
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Jiffy
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Joined: Sat Dec 18, 2004 2:27 pm Posts: 6152 Location: New York
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 Re: Have you ever cheated or been cheated on?
Have never cheated but have been cheated on once.
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Chippy
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Have you ever cheated or been cheated on?
I guess I should also say the the girl I lost my virginity to also cheated on me. But I wasn't surprised by that.
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Fri Oct 14, 2016 4:09 pm |
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The Dark Shape
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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 Re: Have you ever cheated or been cheated on?
No to the first question, not that I'm aware of to the second.
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Fri Oct 14, 2016 5:26 pm |
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Floydboy
ha ha, charade you are
Joined: Fri Sep 26, 2008 6:05 pm Posts: 2210
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 Re: Have you ever cheated or been cheated on?
I was engaged to someone who started acting weird a few months into the engagement. Went and surprised her at her apartment and instead was surprised to see her draped on another guy.
Things turned out for the best though.
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32579 Location: the last free city
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 Re: Have you ever cheated or been cheated on?
No and no
I ended my last relationship because I was going to end up cheating on her if I didn't.
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Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:25 pm |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68230 Location: Seattle, WA
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 Re: Have you ever cheated or been cheated on?
For me, cheating is only cheating when your feelings are directed at another person other than your partner. So sexting, cyber sex, drunken kisses are all not cheating. Or they are. The act doesn't matter. It is about the feelings behind them. More often than not I think cyber sex and drunken kisses are just impulses. Other times they can have deeper motivation. But I believe that monogamy is just not meant to occur anyway. It is not natural. It is just a man-made concept that I stupidly subscribe to. If so many people cheat, it is because it is impossible to ignore these primitive urges.
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Algren wrote: For me, cheating is only cheating when your feelings are directed at another person other than your partner. So sexting, cyber sex, drunken kisses are all not cheating. Or they are. The act doesn't matter. It is about the feelings behind them. More often than not I think cyber sex and drunken kisses are just impulses. Other times they can have deeper motivation. But I believe that monogamy is just not meant to occur anyway. It is not natural. It is just a man-made concept that I stupidly subscribe to. If so many people cheat, it is because it is impossible to ignore these primitive urges. Interesting. Definitely a very vaild perspective, though an unusual one for a guy to have. I am saying that because most studies in Psychology show as to what sort of cheating feels worse for a woman vs. a man. For a man, physical cheating - in general - seems like a worse thing, wherras the same studies show that for women cheating is worse when feelings are attached, even if the physical contact small. So, yeah, interesting. The feelings are a tricky thing though. Again, do infatuation or a crush already count as feelings that are considerred cheating? I can imagine that after many years ina relationship, when the initial euphoria of being in love cools off, one is easier excited by something new/fresh, though it doesn't necessarily mean love.
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Algren
now we know
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 Re: Have you ever cheated or been cheated on?
I think it depends on the feelings you currently have with your partner. Let's call him/her "Subject A". If your feelings toward "Subject A" started as infatuation which lead to becoming partners, then another feeling of infatuation with another person could be considered cheating. If you love "Subject A", then feelings of infatuation or a crush towards another probably isn't cheating, it's just a phase, and it will pass. The love should win because that should be stronger - if it isn't, then it probably isn't love. But there are so many variables and way to cut it up.
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
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 Re: Have you ever cheated or been cheated on?
I'd argue that almost every relationship and love starts with an infatuation or a crush. Sometimes it blossoms into more, sometimes it doesn't.
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Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:20 pm |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68230 Location: Seattle, WA
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Yeah, that was what I meant. Started with infatuation but stays there as opposed to blossoming into love.
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Shack
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Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40253
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 Re: Have you ever cheated or been cheated on?
Algren is probably right that it depends on who the person is in relation to you, drunken making out with a stranger at a club is probably not cheating (although still not something you should do) but making out with your neighbour Karen is.
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Algren
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68230 Location: Seattle, WA
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 Re: Have you ever cheated or been cheated on?
As to the thread question, well, it's really none of your business. But I haven't had enough girlfriends and partners to have been in a position to cheat. When I get a girl, I cherish her because I ain't going to be having the opportunity again any time soon. It's not as if I am inundated with offers of casual sex. Who are these people that cheat all the time? I don't see how it would be possible. Perhaps alcohol has a lot to do with it, and as I don't drink I don't get all those perks. But I believe that the most important element of cheating is the desire to do so. Cheaters are looking to cheat. They don't just chance upon naked ladies in beds, beckoning them to lick their pussy. They hunt, and are constantly on the lookout for an upgrade, for the thrill, for more sex.
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publicenemy#1
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 19373 Location: San Diego
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 Re: Have you ever cheated or been cheated on?
I would never. I don't know the details but I do believe I was heated on.
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MovieGeek
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:38 pm Posts: 3682 Location: Here
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 Re: Have you ever cheated or been cheated on?
Yes... to both. It was high school. I did because I knew she was. Which is no excuse. <----- Douche
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
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publicenemy#1 wrote: I would never. I don't know the details but I do believe I was heated on. With a radiator?
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32579 Location: the last free city
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MovieGeek wrote: Yes... to both. It was high school. I did because I knew she was. Which is no excuse. <----- Douche You get a pass cause u were still a kid 
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Thu Oct 20, 2016 9:42 pm |
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zwackerm
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 Re: Have you ever cheated or been cheated on?
This is from someone who has never been in a position to cheat, but it seems to me the real issue with cheating is trust and not the actual cheating itself. Monogamy is a great idea that works for a lot of couples, but it makes some couples miserable. Rather than cheating or breaking up, it makes sense to me to talk to your significant other about your dissatisfaction and if it can't be worked out, sleeping with other people occasionally with knowledge and consent of the other partner shouldn't be a huge issue if it would make the couple happy and save a marriage.
Because marriage is great for the support system it provides, but sleeping with one person for 50+ years is crazy pressure. No wonder there are so many divorces due to cheating.
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Chippy
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zwackerm wrote: This is from someone who has never been in a position to cheat, but it seems to me the real issue with cheating is trust and not the actual cheating itself. Monogamy is a great idea that works for a lot of couples, but it makes some couples miserable. Rather than cheating or breaking up, it makes sense to me to talk to your significant other about your dissatisfaction and if it can't be worked out, sleeping with other people occasionally with knowledge and consent of the other partner shouldn't be a huge issue if it would make the couple happy and save a marriage.
Because marriage is great for the support system it provides, but sleeping with one person for 50+ years is crazy pressure. No wonder there are so many divorces due to cheating. I'd say trust was the biggest factor for me. When I found out she was first cheating, we continued to try and work it out. But every second of every day it was on my mind. What isn't she telling me? It was just always there.
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
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It is trust, yeah. I don't know from experience since I haven't been cheated on (that I know of), but I think that for me the damage would be irreparable.
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CowboyFromHell
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Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:23 pm Posts: 2033 Location: Somewhere, USA
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Never cheated on anyone, but have been cheated on twice.
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