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The Dark Shape
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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 Re: Skyfall
It's a character I care about at stake, not countless nameless people at the mercy of a bomb/torpedo/some sort of doomsday device. The stakes felt higher here to me.
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:21 pm |
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Excel
Superfreak
Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22210 Location: Places
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 Re: Skyfall
Maybe thats the difference. Nobody REALLY cares about M. Yeah, theres some emotional attachment but, it doesnt even rival vesper, who was only in one movie.
itll have great wom, but it wont be batmans level.
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:32 pm |
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21895 Location: Walking around somewhere
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 Re: Skyfall
"It's called a radio" This one is funny as hell. That might be new favorite line, as well as Bond gleefully watching his Martini being shaken the hell out of it and saying "Perfect" Wow this movie is a trip. Probably the most thought provoking of the Bond films, yet completely simple in what it's trying to set out. Mendes did a great job as the acting is top notch, as is the cinematography (The night city skylines and the Sniper scene is just beautiful to look at) The bond girls are effective if underused in this one but I completely can feel the past relationship of Eve and other characters of the past, and after thinking Q would suck, there one scene working together was very fun. Bardem is quirky and interesting, but I'm not sure if his payoff is where it should be. The action and score are both very well done, if not quite up to par of Casino. I can't say I was necessarily wowed by any action scene in this one, like I was in CR, but this Bond is not quite as good as the Freshly 007 of Casino, the action is meant to be more subdued. It's kind of funny that a film so different feels so much like Vintage Bond. I only hope that Bond is back in shape for the next one which now with the necessary characters in play, we'll get a truly awesome mix of old and new that this one is hinting at. Casino Royale A+ Quantam of Solace B+ Skyfall A And here' s my name gripe I kind of wish that Bond wasn't his real name. Considering M is replaced by the end, as is Q, I was hoping the Bond 007 name was more of a Dread Pirate Robertson. In the sense that "this isn't baseball, we don't retire numbers, I think that works more with the expendability of Bardem's character especially begging her to be called by his real name. Imagine if say Dalton or particularly Brosnan turned out to be the villain. How much awesome would that be, and of course how pissed off would fans be
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:58 pm |
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21895 Location: Walking around somewhere
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 Re: Skyfall
Excel I think her death is much more thematic in this one, despite her coldness in other films. It's the idea that Bond loss his entire family, they go back to his old house, it's destroyed and his "mum" was killed at his chapel. On screen it's done adequately. There is only so much you can give M in a Bond film, but her motherly relationship has certainly always been present in the Craig's Bond
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:01 pm |
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22210 Location: Places
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 Re: Skyfall
Oh I know, but at the same time, both are such cold characters that it just doesnt work overly well. Yeah, it is deeper than the standard bond fare, but its hardly anything special in general. Bond is a loner - what else is new?
dont get me wrong, its a good movie that I enjoyed. I just dont think it is near goldfinger, ohmss, etc.
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:32 pm |
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David
Pure Phase
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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 Re: Skyfall
A fantastic action and suspense film. This, over half a decade later, is the nuanced, playful, and rewarding sequel franchise savior Casino Royale deserves. Daniel Craig is in top form as Bond: his version of the character remains aching and anxious, but here he also explores the character's lighter side. The action is exciting, though also surprising. The film does not aim to be the most complicated, epic, and over-the-top Bond film. Instead, it ends with a quiet four-person chase, generating incredible suspense through old-fashioned staging and ace acting instead of computer-generated flash and rapid-fire editing. The film is also memorable for an antagonist who is colorful, frightening, and sad in equal measure (a tragic monster created by the cruel modern world) and awe-inspiring visuals, the Shanghai sequence in particular.
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The tone of the Scotland scenes reminds me of the third act of On Her Majesty's Secret Service.
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:09 pm |
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Heinrich Himmler
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 5:17 pm Posts: 2716 Location: Berlin, Germania
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 Re: Skyfall
i gave it a C.
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:22 pm |
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The Dark Shape
Extraordinary
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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 Re: Skyfall
Licence to Kill fourth? Yuck. Dalton's good, but it's such a cliche late-80s action flick.
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 8:41 pm |
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Chippy
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:45 pm Posts: 63026 Location: Tonight... YOU!
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 Re: Skyfall
On par with my favorite Bond, CR. Will have to see again to decide whether it's better.
Loved Bardem in this.
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Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:19 pm |
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xiayun
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:41 pm Posts: 25109 Location: San Mateo, CA
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 Re: Skyfall
Loved it and might just be my favorite Bond movie ever. Enjoy how dark and serious the movie feels; at one time, it almost gave me Joker and The Dark Knight type of feeling (but not that dark). Great screen presence from Bardem; one of the better villains in the series. Of course Adele's title song is top-notch. Bond's girl had very little screen time though, and there isn't much romance here. Love the shoutout to the previous movies such as the car with the ejectable seat and the end dialog with Moneypenny. A.
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Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:52 am |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21230 Location: Massachusetts
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 Re: Skyfall
I want to see it again in IMAX before I write anything substantial, but I think I loved it. The last two minutes were a sight for sore eyes. Just seeing that coat hanger sent chills down my spine.
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Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:59 am |
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jmovies
Let's Call It A Bromance
Joined: Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:22 pm Posts: 12333
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 Re: Skyfall
It's really great though I still consider Casino Royale "the best Bond"
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Sat Nov 10, 2012 3:04 pm |
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The Dark Shape
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:56 am Posts: 12119 Location: Adrift in L.A.
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 Re: Skyfall
I'd take Casino Royale over Skyfall -- more memorable set pieces, and I'm a sucker for 'Bond falls in love... then she dies at the end' stories.
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Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:33 pm |
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David
Pure Phase
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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 Re: Skyfall
It is strange Craig is eight years into his tenure as Bond, the same amount of time separating Die Another Day from GoldenEye. Craig feels much, much fresher in the role eight years later (still finding new notes to play in the role) than Brosnan did, say, four years into his Bond era.
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Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:46 pm |
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Libs
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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 Re: Skyfall
A highly entertaining, dynamically made Bond flick that usurps Casino Royale to be the best outing from Daniel Craig so far. I'm not as head over heels in love with this movie as a lot of people are, but it's pretty darn good. B+
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Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:48 pm |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21230 Location: Massachusetts
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 Re: Skyfall
David wrote: It is strange Craig is eight years into his tenure as Bond, the same amount of time separating Die Another Day from GoldenEye. Craig feels much, much fresher in the role eight years later (still finding new notes to play in the role) than Brosnan did, say, four years into his Bond era. Can't really blame that on Brosnan (Craig is a better actor though).
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Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:49 pm |
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David
Pure Phase
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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 Re: Skyfall
The Brosnan movies went in the wrong direction. Every subsequent film moved closer to the spirit of the Roger Moore era and its camp.
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Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:49 pm |
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David
Pure Phase
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 Re: Skyfall
Oh, and I s'pose it has been seven years since Craig was cast. James Berardinelli said eight.
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Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:52 pm |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21230 Location: Massachusetts
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 Re: Skyfall
David wrote: The Brosnan movies went in the wrong direction. Every subsequent film moved closer to the spirit of the Roger Moore era and its camp. I wouldn't say that. The World is Not Enough has it's outlandish elements, but it is more toned down than Tomorrow Never Dies. I think the leap from The World is Not Enough to Die Another Day and how absurd that film was cast a shadow over his run and made it seem like each film got more outlandish with each outing.
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Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:02 pm |
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David
Pure Phase
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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 Re: Skyfall
I find The World Is Not Enough a bit campier than Tomorrow Never Dies.
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Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:07 pm |
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Jmart
Superman: The Movie
Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:47 am Posts: 21230 Location: Massachusetts
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 Re: Skyfall
That would make sense. Otherwise your original post was just a waste of words. 
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Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:09 pm |
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David
Pure Phase
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 Re: Skyfall
Yes.
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Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:48 pm |
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David
Pure Phase
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 Re: Skyfall
But seriously: The World Is Not Enough is a bit campier than Tomorrow Never Dies.
This is just my opinion.
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Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:48 pm |
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trixster
loyalfromlondon
Joined: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:31 pm Posts: 19697 Location: ville-marie
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 Re: Skyfall
Yeah, I'd say Denise Richards as a nuclear scientist alone makes it campier.
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Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:56 pm |
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David
Pure Phase
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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 Re: Skyfall
The antagonist, too, who grows stronger every day the bullet burrows deeper into his brain.
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