what markets has Avatar done worse than expected??

we thought it was the UK and Japan but they are now doing way better than expected.


The Netherlands, I think it will be an all time top ten hit there??

Argentina ???

I think it might be already. It was at €9.9 million going into the weekend, and only needs €10.5 million to replace Dead Man's Chest as the #10. Right now I'd say it should have enough steam left for a place in the top 5.

Due to Avatar great legs, it will end in the top 5 all time hits in almost all markets...

Domestic grosses compared to international grosses for this movie is quite lauhable really.

Well you should know that based on past experience, it's always understimated so regardless. Titanic is gone give or take 1 day.

KNew it was going to gross more than $100m.

12 years on, why has it taken them this long to upgrade Titanic's gross? Unless it had special showings in some countries we don't know about recently.

WOW, it's actually got a good shot at taking down Mamma Mia here, who wouldve thought after the somewhat dissapounting first 2 weeks.

Germany 6th weekend estimate:

575,000 admissions (-4 %) = 3rd biggest 6th weekend ever
6,550,000 total

Euros all-time:
1) 119m TITANIC
2) 99m JUNGLE BOOK
3) 82m LOTR1
4) 78m HP1
5) 75m LOTR2
6) 72m LOTR3
7) 66m AVATAR
8) 65m DER SCHUH DES MANITU
9) 60m HP2
10) 57m IA3

EDIT: From now on, 25 % drops every week will bring AVATAR towards the 9m admissions mark, but so far the average drop was 8 %...

Oops!

Wrong thread.

A number of countries , like Australia have a lot repatory screenings, not that it would account for 3mil, but basically every year a lot of old films have additional boxoffice or for really old films just film rental increases (years ago rentals was all theat was properly tracked bor was an estimate from rental), so for example Titanic earned money last year in Aus (total cume has increased slightly) a long with a stack of others.

The reason (or one of them) seems to be Puerto Rico.
As I posted on the previous page:

Update (1/24/2010): Careful review of the international numbers for Titanic reveals that the final international gross was $1,242,091,767. The discrepancy ($5,933,840) depends on the accounting for Puerto Rico grosses, which were included in both the US and international figures in the original report.

http://www.the-numbers.com/interactive/ ... ewsID=3456

Avatar increased again this weekend in the Netherlands, up 4.5% for a €1,184,215 weekend and €11,071,689 total.

It jumped from #15 to #10 of all time, and will surpass HP6 as 2009's biggest film soon.

1 TITANIC € 23.572.868,00
2 LORD OF THE RINGS:RETURN OF THE KING € 16.406.000,00
3 HARRY POTTER A/T SORCERER'S STONE € 15.357.977,00
4 LORD OF THE RINGS:FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING € 14.373.610,00
5 DANCES WITH WOLVES € 14.119.111,00
6 HARRY POTTER A/T CHAMBER OF SECRETS € 13.613.274,00
7 LORD OF THE RINGS: THE TWO TOWERS € 13.586.729,00
8 LION KING,  THE € 13.350.497,00
9 HARRY POTTER A/T HALF BLOOD PRINCE € 11.340.136,00
10 AVATAR € 11.071.689,00
11 PIRATES O/T CARIBBEAN:DEAD MAN'S CHEST € 10.525.314,00
12 JURASSIC PARK € 10.133.712,00
13 PIRATES O/T CARIBBEAN:AT WORLD'S END € 10.111.301,00
14 HARRY POTTER A/T ORDER O/T PHOENIX € 10.102.345,00
15 HARRY POTTER A/T GOBLET OF FIRE € 10.086.939,00

Titanic is safe, but right now I'm pretty sure it's going to have the longevity to reach #2 here. After a far from amazing start I didn't have high hopes for its chances at an all-time top 10 spot, but so far it's been showing some amazing legs over here as well.

It only decreased (slightly) over the weekend twice so far, and increased three times. Last week's weekdays were also up 46% over the week before.

France admissions:

870,891 (-12 %) 6th weekend
11,065,025 total = 19th biggest film since WWII and 13th biggest non-French film

what are the all time non-french admission grosser??

Yep, i want to see this too

With that sort of weekend gross and drops percentage, there's no way it's not beating ROTK. Sad really, it's taking down ROTK in almost every market now, even in middle and northern europe.

Well i haven't seen any advertisied showings for Titanic last year. Perhaps this is for non-Melbourne cities?

New totals for Avatar from BOM...

Domestic: $551,741,499 30.0%
+ Foreign: $1,287,060,822 70.0%

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= Worldwide: $1,838,802,321

The latest No. 1 weekend overseas tally was $108.3 million grossed from 11,925 screens in 111 markets. It was the sixth consecutive weekend that "Avatar" grossed more than $100 million on the foreign circuit.

Among the key territories on the weekend were: France (cume: $124.8 million), Germany ($95.8 million), the U.K. ($93.2 million), South Korea ($79.7 million), Japan ($77.7 million), Australia ($77 million) and Spain ($76 million). "Avatar" is now the biggest-grossing film of all time in China, Spain, Russia, Hong Kong and Chile. It is the biggest Hollywood film ever to play in India.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/con ... edad593649

AUSTRALIA (AUD$) - Weekend 6

Largest drop since it's 2nd weekend, though to put things into perspective. It's almost doubled the gross of Shrek 2 at this point and it's 6th weekend is more than the opneings of movies like 300, Twilight, Angels & Demons.

1 - Avatar - $11,962,308 (or $12,895,497 incl. Wed p/v 5pm - 588 SC)
2 - Avatar - $28,994,289 ($8,749,099, -27%)*Boxing or $32,594,716 ($12,349,526)*Monday
3 - Avatar - $48,426,852 ($9,659,700, +10%)*NY
4 - Avatar - $63,240,995 ($8,338,365, -14%)
5 - Avatar - $75,276,299 ($7,002,454, -16%)

Avatar - $84,804,886 ($5,604,268, -20%)
Shrek 2 - $47,941,762 ($1,049,838, -51%)
Lord Of The Rings: ROTK - $42,849,927 ($1,140,763, -33%)
The Dark Knight - $41,752,111 ($1,340,174, -32%)
Lord Of The Rings: TTT - $40,911,731 ($1,190,358, -27%)
Lord Of The Rings: FOTR - $40,087,864 ($1,260,067, -34%)
Transformers 2: Revenge Of The Fallen - $39,545,622 ($549,370, -53%)
Harry Potter 6: HBP - $39,003,653 ($636,444, -40%)
The Twilight Saga: New Moon - $36,397,350 ($492,336, -49%)*Boxing or $36,606,839 ($701,825)*Monday
Pirates Of The Caribbean 2: Dead Man’s Chest - $34,952,934 ($846,109, -38%)
Harry Potter 1: PS - $34,444,483 ($2,021,912, -31%)
The Chronicles Of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch And The Wardrobe - $34,236,479 ($417,751, -57%)
Harry Potter 5: OOTP - $33,992,807 ($657,321, -32%)
Star Wars 3: ROTS - $33,712,147 ($688,894, -29%)
Star Wars 1: PM - $33,256,520 ($1,751,831, -16%)
Finding Nemo - $33,062,711 ($2,180,343, +1%)
Harry Potter 4: GOF - $33,043,000 ($886,344, -42%)
Shrek 3 - $32,476,571 ($1,016,528, -41%)
Harry Potter 2: COS - $32,306,771 ($1,518,082, -37%)
Star Wars 2: AOTC - $31,809,363 ($636,983, -48%)
Pirates Of The Caribbean 3: At World’s End - $31,775,737 ($596,217, -39%)
Harry Potter 3: POA - $31,707,300 ($905,239, -48%)
The Matrix: Reloaded - $31,340,186 ($723,543, -39%)

Do you think these numbers compared to BOM are more truthful? it's more than $4m above BOMs"