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 The official Franchise Ranker (Alien and Indiana Jones) 
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Star Wars Episode IV - A New Hope - 9.0
Star Wars Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back- 10.0
Star Wars Episode VI - Return of the Jedi- 8.5

Average - 9.17

The Phantom Menace- 4.0
Attack of the Clones- 5.5
Revenge of the Sith- 8.5

Average - 6

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Its really beyond me how people actually liked Sith. To me is clearly the worst of the whole franchise.


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The one in the snow is the worst.

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Its really beyond me how people actually liked Sith. To me is clearly the worst of the whole franchise.


:whaa: don't make me yell mean things at you. :disgust:

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matatonio wrote:
Its really beyond me how people actually liked Sith. To me is clearly the worst of the whole franchise.

lol :funny:

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matatonio wrote:
Its really beyond me how people actually liked Sith. To me is clearly the worst of the whole franchise.


I sure second that. I was reading all these 8's and 9's and wondering if I saw the same movie with the horrible, horrible dialogue (did I mention horrible?), one dimensional characters, plotting that didn't exist, and the "acting" that was...*shudder*.

I can't decide if Ian McDiarmid's scary voice or Hayden Christensen's EMO-TO-THE-EXTREME delivery of every single line was worse. When I think of this movie I always flash to the highly laughable stuff at the end with Obi-Wan, when Anakin's all chopped up. That was the all mighty Darth Vader? A whiny teen screaming "I HATE YOU!!" over and over again with his angry eyes on full blast?

Then Padme's BS birth scene, with the "she's lost the will to live" nonsense. Mother of the year, right there.


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Star Wars: 10
The Empire Strikes Back: 10
Return of the Jedi: 9
The Phantom Menace: 8
Attack of the Clones: 7
Revenge of the Sith: 8

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Star Wars - 9
The Empire Strikes Back - 10
Return of the Jedi - 10

Average - 9.66

The Phantom Menace - 5
Attack of the Clones - 10
Revenge of the Sith - 10

Average - 8.33

Overall Average - 9.00


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Oh, and with the updates, Back to the Future has passed an 8 rating and Terminator closed in .3 on LOTR

Terminator would be even higher if some people could only remove their head from their ass for a couple hours and really watch T3 - - it's at least as good as the first two entries in this series...


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Terminator would be even higher if some people could only remove their head from their ass for a couple hours and really watch T3 - - it's at least as good as the first two entries in this series...

This is as asinine as your 10 ratings for Clones and Sith.

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T3 is an effective story, with great characters, amazing action (Its car chase owned Reloaded) and Arnold, Effects, were still in top form. People only complained because it wasn't as epic as the 2nd, and was more of a simple chase film like the original.

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Thegun wrote:
T3 is an effective story, with great characters, amazing action (Its car chase owned Reloaded) and Arnold, Effects, were still in top form. People only complained because it wasn't as epic as the 2nd, and was more of a simple chase film like the original.
People complained because it had the exact same plot as the 2nd.


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Star Wars - 9.5
The Empire Strikes Back - 7.5
Return of the Jedi - 7.5


The Phantom Menace - 4
Attack of the Clones - 8.5
Revenge of the Sith - 8.5

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(Its car chase owned Reloaded)


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I enjoyed T3, but I went in expecting a lesser-than movie compared to the first two and that's what it was. The first half got on my nerves a bit as I thought they were trying way too hard to be funny, the lack of using the R rating bothered me (take out that one arm-through-the-guy scene and dub out a few "fucks" then it's PG13 fare), and Loken was very ho-hum--BUT I do think it gets better as it goes along all the way to the great ending.

Also, Claire Danes elevated it somehow. I just like her.


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As far the T3 vs MR car chases, it really depends. T3's was like an old school, 80's (with improved FX, obviously) destruction upon destruction chase where bad guy wants to get good guy and good guy has to get away. It was direct and to the point, with lots and lots of property damage and cyborgs from the future. MR's chase was much more intricate with a number of different factions and the new-ness of it all, the heavy use of CG, plus the more stylized way of the Wachowskis.

Take away the lame one-liners in both chases (I'm thinking the awkward "I'll drive" from T3 and Naobi's "Gotcha!" eye-roller) and I'd personally choose T3. MR was too overblown and felt like a videogame, with glaringly bad CG at the end there and I can live without slo-mo in just about all scenarios.


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T3's car chase was exciting. Reloaded's car chase was glossy. Hence, I'll go with T3.


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Flava'd wrote:
Thegun wrote:
T3 is an effective story, with great characters, amazing action (Its car chase owned Reloaded) and Arnold, Effects, were still in top form. People only complained because it wasn't as epic as the 2nd, and was more of a simple chase film like the original.
People complained because it had the exact same plot as the 2nd.

People complained because it made fun of itself. Big no-no!

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matatonio wrote:
Its really beyond me how people actually liked Sith. To me is clearly the worst of the whole franchise.


I sure second that. I was reading all these 8's and 9's and wondering if I saw the same movie with the horrible, horrible dialogue (did I mention horrible?), one dimensional characters, plotting that didn't exist, and the "acting" that was...*shudder*.

I can't decide if Ian McDiarmid's scary voice or Hayden Christensen's EMO-TO-THE-EXTREME delivery of every single line was worse. When I think of this movie I always flash to the highly laughable stuff at the end with Obi-Wan, when Anakin's all chopped up. That was the all mighty Darth Vader? A whiny teen screaming "I HATE YOU!!" over and over again with his angry eyes on full blast?

Then Padme's BS birth scene, with the "she's lost the will to live" nonsense. Mother of the year, right there.

Pretty much what i think. Im not a person that judges the acting that much on movies but c'mon, it was so horrible and extremely over the top that i couldnt ignore it.


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The leap in quality from Phantom to Sith is so massive that Sith requires as high a number as humanly possible.

That explains my high grade. Phantom is essentially Wing Commander with a massive budget. It's Uwe Boll bad.

So there's a progression that needs to be rewarded.


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Phantom Menace is better than people give it credit for. It feels like the most un-tampered with Star Wars movie of the prequel trilogy.

But Revenge of the Sith is just great drama. The last 45 minutes or so are the best stretch of any Star Wars film.


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Star Wars Episode IV - A New Hope - 7.5
Star Wars Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back- 9
Star Wars Episode VI - Return of the Jedi- 5

Average - 7.16

The Phantom Menace- 6
Attack of the Clones- 2
Revenge of the Sith- 3.5

Average - 3.83

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The hyperbole here is amusing.


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The hyperbole here is amusing.


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But Revenge of the Sith is just great drama. The last 45 minutes or so are the best stretch of any Star Wars film.


You said it, dawg.

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Except I wasn't exaggerating. I'm a sucker for big Greek-esque tragedy, and that's what Sith's ending is.

People treat Star Wars so differently from everything else that it's funny. There's no rational person in the world who would give Return of the Jedi a 10 and Attack of the Clones a 3 -- or vice-versa, which I've seen other places than WKJ -- and yet it happens all the time with these flicks.


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