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 Monday Numbers (Jul 21, 2008) 
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TDK's Tuesday can surpass TiH's OD if it dropped under 13%. :funny:

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$4,093,125 MAMMA MIA!

Not to shabby either!

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/char ... -21&p=.htm

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Post Re: Monday Numbers (TDK number only in so far)
Thud! That was the sound of my jaw hitting the floor. TDK is that mystical magical movie that we always talked about, "what if?" And I would just like to say that TDK is going to be breaking ground we haven't seen for a while, when you gon BOM and see Biggest 12th weekend, it is usually movies from when the box office wasn't so frontloaded. TDK is going to register high on these lists and thats unheard of.

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$4,093,125 MAMMA MIA!

Not to shabby either!

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/char ... -21&p=.htm
Oh god, poor Hellboy. 60+% drop during the summer? I just died a little inside. :(


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Post Re: Monday Numbers (TDK number only in so far)
What are the chances that this film gets 100 million for its second weekend? Has that ever happened before?

What if:
F 35
S 37
S 31
Tot = 103

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Hairspray dropped 37% on the same frame last year (which kinda makes Mamma Mia!'s drop look bad). Any idea why?

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Post Re: Monday Numbers (TDK number only in so far)
Ok lets look at it in perspective.. No question the market was full, some people didn't get to see the film on the weekend. However even with a 25% drop today we are still talking 200m in 5 days. Now for the rest of its run if it gets a 55% drop this weekend for 70 mill and 55% drops the rest of its run we are talking 415m minimum. Throw in best WOM in history and the Ledger factor and you something incredibly larger. Lets say it still drops 55% this weekend but all following weekends drop 42%.. We are talking 485 Million. That is not at all out of the question! Now lets take it one step further......

Lets say a 53% drop this weekend for 74.7 million. And then 38.5 drops the entire run...
Your gross is looking like 524 million.

So a respectable range here is 415-524 million. But as we have seen with incredible WOM films, legs happen. So what happens with a 50% drop this weekend and then 30% weekly drops the rest of its run???? Well Titanic would be gone.


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Post Re: Monday Numbers (TDK number only in so far)
All from BOM:

1 THE DARK KNIGHT $24,493,313 -43.8% $182,904,796
2 MAMMA MIA! $4,093,125 -49.1% $31,844,365
3 HANCOCK $1,684,785 -58.2% $193,228,764
4 JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH $1,624,423 -58.1% $45,129,135
5 WALL-E $1,425,526 -54.7% $184,158,235
6 HELLBOY II: THE GOLDEN ARMY $1,172,380 -62.6% $57,699,265
7 SPACE CHIMPS $987,040 -51.4% $8,168,414
8 WANTED $656,910 -57.5% $123,979,545
9 GET SMART $558,395 -48.9% $120,167,090
10 KUNG FU PANDA $282,367 -54% $206,898,748

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/


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Post Re: Monday Numbers (TDK number only in so far)
mark66 wrote:
$4,093,125 MAMMA MIA!

Not to shabby either!

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/char ... -21&p=.htm


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Post Re: Monday Numbers (TDK number only in so far)
As I mentioned somewhere on these forums TDK will do 100 million or above this weekend.


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5 WALL-E $1,425,526 -54.7% $184,158,235


Poor thing. :tears:

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Post Re: Monday Numbers (TDK number only in so far)
comparing first & second place monday's grosses:
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TDK 24.4m
MM 4.0m


2006
DMC 18.1m
SR 2.6m

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That's some pretty big Monday drops by the rest. TDK bested everyone in the top 10 by at least 5 points. :blink:

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BTW, there's a slight chance that THE DARK KNIGHT will beat BATMAN BEGINS' total gross in five days! (even though six days is more realistic)

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Post Re: Monday Numbers (TDK number only in so far)
I just got chills.

Fastest to $200M in 5 days likely - shattered beyond belief...
Fastest to $300M, first movie before 3rd Friday, possibly by 10th day...
Top grossing movie of year locked by 3rd weekend...
George Lucas furiously planning to figure out how to reclaim the #2 spot, if even possible now...

We shouldn't get TOO excited. It's still just Monday, lots of spillover from weekend, and the Monday drop is not exactly uncommon at all given the Sunday drop.

Still, this is fucking awesome.

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Post Re: Monday Numbers (Jul 21, 2008)
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BTW, there's a slight chance that THE DARK KNIGHT will beat BATMAN BEGINS' total gross in five days! (even though six days is more realistic)


The only sequels I can think of that passed their predecessor at a faster rate would be T2, Austin Powers 2 and technically Clerks 2. Anything else? :wacko:


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I usually don't get that excited by high box office numbers but The Dark Knight has sort of transcended. It's doing so amazing.

In other news, Mamma Mia had a good drop too. AND I DON'T CARE, SAYING THAT ISN'T SPAM. :)


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Post Re: Monday Numbers (Jul 21, 2008)
Jon wrote:
mark66 wrote:
BTW, there's a slight chance that THE DARK KNIGHT will beat BATMAN BEGINS' total gross in five days! (even though six days is more realistic)


The only sequels I can think of that passed their predecessor at a faster rate would be T2, Austin Powers 2 and technically Clerks 2. Anything else? :wacko:

Rambo 2 maybe.


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Jon wrote:
mark66 wrote:
BTW, there's a slight chance that THE DARK KNIGHT will beat BATMAN BEGINS' total gross in five days! (even though six days is more realistic)


The only sequels I can think of that passed their predecessor at a faster rate would be T2, Austin Powers 2 and technically Clerks 2. Anything else? :wacko:
The only sequels to 100mil films that I can think of that outgrossed the predecessors anywhere near this fast were Rush Hour 2 and Shrek 2, which did it in 13 and 14 days. The Dark Knight is truly from another planet.


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Biggestgeekever wrote:
Jon wrote:
mark66 wrote:
BTW, there's a slight chance that THE DARK KNIGHT will beat BATMAN BEGINS' total gross in five days! (even though six days is more realistic)


The only sequels I can think of that passed their predecessor at a faster rate would be T2, Austin Powers 2 and technically Clerks 2. Anything else? :wacko:
The only sequels to 100mil films that I can think of that outgrossed the predecessors anywhere near this fast were Rush Hour 2 and Shrek 2, which did it in 13 and 14 days. The Dark Knight is truly from another planet.



Of course the others mentioned were to films that didn't make a 100 million. Rambo, Terminator, and Austin Powers weren't big hits with their first movie, although adjusted for inflation Terminator is over a 100 now.


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:drop:

Sweet Jesus. I honestly expected about $19-20m but it looks like it's not just the opening weekend that's completely absurd, but the entire run. It could outgross Batman Begins in just five days. Absolutely phenomenal.


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Jedi Master Carr wrote:
Jon wrote:
mark66 wrote:
BTW, there's a slight chance that THE DARK KNIGHT will beat BATMAN BEGINS' total gross in five days! (even though six days is more realistic)


The only sequels I can think of that passed their predecessor at a faster rate would be T2, Austin Powers 2 and technically Clerks 2. Anything else? :wacko:

Rambo 2 maybe.


Nope - Rambo 2 took more than 7 days, including a Memorial Day Monday, to overtake First Blood. The Dark Knight will clearly beat that.

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Amazing for THE DARK KNIGHT and also great for MAMMA MIA.

Poor HELLBOY. That is so horrible.


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Absolutely insane and unprecedented. I do think the great hold can partially be attributed to the weekend being unable to adequately meet demand. I wouldn't be surprised with an 18-20% drop today. Anything less than 15% would impressive the hell out of me.

First Monday | First Weekend Ratios for $40m+ Openers:

TitleYear%
1Spider-Man 2200431.4%
2Meet the Fockers200430.2%
3The Perfect Storm200030.0%
4Madagascar200529.2%
5Pearl Harbor200127.2%
6Kingdom of the Crystal Skull200826.7%
7Godzilla199826.5%
8Bruce Almighty200326.2%
9The Day After Tomorrow200425.2%
10The Lost World199725.0%
11Mission: Impossible199625.0%
12Superman Returns200624.7%
13The Longest Yard200523.1%
14Mission: Impossible II200022.4%
15At World's End200721.9%
16The Two Towers200221.8%
17X-Men 3200619.6%
18War of the Worlds200518.8%
19Return of the King200318.7%
20Jurassic Park199318.3%
21Batman198917.9%
22Hitch200517.4%
23The Phantom Menace199916.8%
24Independence Day199616.4%
25Ratatouille200716.1%
26Pirates of the Caribbean200316.1%
27Book of Secrets200715.6%
28The Dark Knight200815.5%
29Fellowship of the Ring200115.5%
30Charlie and the Chocolate Factory200515.2%
31Big Daddy199915.2%
32Cloverfield200815.2%
33Talladega Nights200614.8%
34The Spy Who Shagged Me199914.7%
35Signs200214.6%
36Men in Black199714.6%
37Ghost Rider200714.6%
38Batman Returns199214.5%
39American Pie 2200114.4%
40Scary Movie200014.4%
41Transformers200714.1%
42Wall-E200814.1%
43Click200614.1%
44Austin Powers in Goldmember200214.0%
45Rush Hour 2200114.0%
46Batman Begins200513.6%
47The Order of the Phoenix200713.5%
48Hancock200813.5%
49Dead Man's Chest200613.4%
50Batman Forever199513.4%
51Attack of the Clones200213.3%
52Revenge of the Sith200513.2%
53The Bourne Ultimatum200713.2%
54Terminator 3200313.0%
55The Fast and the Furious200113.0%
56Bad Boys II200312.9%
57The Simpsons Movie 200712.5%
58Wanted200812.5%
59The Bourne Supremacy200712.3%
60Mr. and Mrs. Smith200512.2%
61I, Robot200412.2%
62The Passion of the Christ200412.1%
63Planet of the Apes200112.0%
64The Village200411.8%
65Daredevil200311.7%
66X-Men200011.6%
67Jurassic Park III200111.6%
68The Da Vinci Code200611.4%
69xXx200211.3%
70Men in Black II200211.2%
718 Mile200211.2%
72King Kong200511.2%
73Scooby Doo200211.1%
74The Matrix Reloaded200311.1%
75Fantastic Four200511.0%
76Batman & Robin199710.9%
77The Nutty Professor II200010.9%
78The Incredible Hulk200810.8%
79Shrek 2200410.7%
80300200710.7%
81Cars200610.7%
82Rush Hour 3200710.6%
83Kung Fu Panda200810.5%
84Fantastic Four II200710.2%
85Finding Nemo20039.9%
86Tomb Raider20019.9%
87Shrek20019.9%
88Scary Movie 420069.9%
89Hulk20039.8%
90Troy20049.8%
91I Am Legend20079.7%
92Sex and the City20089.7%
93Spider-Man20029.6%
94The Matrix Revolutions20039.5%
95Casino Royale20069.4%
96The Prisoner of Azkaban20049.0%
97Prince Caspian20088.7%
98The Mummy19998.4%
992 Fast 2 Furious20038.3%
100American Gangster20078.2%
101Horton Hears a Who!20088.0%
102Shrek 320077.9%
103The Goblet of Fire20057.8%
104X220037.7%
105Die Another Day20027.7%
106Van Helsing20047.6%
107Harry Potter20017.4%
108Mission: Impossible III20067.4%
109Happy Feet20067.3%
110Deep Impact19987.3%
111The Mummy Returns20017.2%
112Hannibal20017.2%
113Iron Man20087.0%
114The Chronicles of Narnia20057.0%
115Anger Management20036.9%
116Charlie's Angels20006.9%
117Spider-Man 320076.8%
118How the Grinch Stole Christmas20006.6%
119Ice Age20026.5%
120The Chamber of Secrets20026.0%
121Monsters, Inc.20016.0%
122Alvin and the Chipmunks20076.0%
123Ice Age 220065.9%
124Scary Movie 320035.8%
125The Incredibles20045.4%
126Shark Tale20044.9%
127Chicken Little20054.8%
128Toy Story 219994.4%
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(excludes The Lion King and Twister)

It's ridiculously impressive that TDK is so high on this list. As far as non-holiday affected films go, only Batman, Jurassic Park, ID4, and POTC are above it.

Sunday-Monday Declines ($40m+):

TitleYear%SundayMonday
1Spider-Man 2200426.0%$21,955,628 $27,661,137
2The Perfect Storm2000-6.8%$13,300,000 $12,396,408
3Madagascar2005-10.6%$15,418,361 $13,787,536
4Pearl Harbor2001-18.5%$19,749,861 $16,098,742
5Kingdom of the Crystal Skull2008-18.9%$33,032,721 $26,779,538
6Godzilla1998-20.3%$14,650,511 $11,679,410
7The Day After Tomorrow2004-20.4%$21,449,531 $17,063,757
8Bruce Almighty2003-20.7%$22,413,105 $17,780,715
9X-Men 32006-21.6%$25,650,557 $20,110,492
10The Longest Yard2005-22.1%$14,122,159 $11,006,765
11At World's End2007-26.5%$34,121,377 $25,069,370
12Superman Returns2006-27.0%$17,797,603 $12,988,054
13Mission: Impossible1996-27.0%$15,579,807 $11,374,772
14Meet the Fockers2004-28.4%$19,419,360 $13,913,690
15Hitch2005-29.1%$10,594,290 $7,515,442
16The Lost World1997-30.9%$26,083,950 $18,029,095
17The Two Towers2002-32.6%$20,031,131 $13,509,942
18Mission: Impossible II2000-32.6%$19,236,656 $12,970,918
19Cloverfield2008-32.6%$9,028,443 $6,088,317
20War of the Worlds2005-38.4%$19,775,949 $12,183,228
21Jurassic Park1993-39.7%$14,303,800 $8,618,340
22Return of the King2003-41.9%$23,326,111 $13,563,208
23Batman1989-43.1%$12,725,416 $7,239,126
24Independence Day1996-43.6%$14,575,413 $8,225,381
25The Dark Knight2008-43.8%$43,596,151 $24,493,313
26Ratatouille2007-44.5%$13,598,308 $7,550,960
27Book of Secrets2007-44.8%$12,699,785 $7,004,295
28Talladega Nights2006-46.4%$12,990,767 $6,968,211
29Charlie and the Chocolate Factory2005-47.0%$16,112,728 $8,534,478
30Ghost Rider2007-47.5%$12,630,333 $6,634,072
31Pirates of the Caribbean2003-47.8%$14,374,903 $7,504,567
32Batman Returns1992-48.5%$12,829,251 $6,605,992
33Big Daddy1999-48.6%$12,312,000 $6,334,147
34Dead Man's Chest2006-48.7%$35,360,729 $18,140,271
35Scary Movie 42006-48.8%$7,762,176 $3,973,984
36Scary Movie 2000-49.5%$12,090,000 $6,102,126
37Wall-E2008-49.9%$17,807,221 $8,913,286
38Signs2002-50.0%$17,548,761 $8,773,638
39Click2006-50.0%$11,281,471 $5,638,403
40The Phantom Menace1999-50.4%$21,929,334 $10,881,272
41Men in Black1997-50.9%$15,126,003 $7,433,260
42Austin Powers in Goldmember2002-51.4%$20,974,475 $10,200,239
43Batman Forever1995-51.6%$14,580,161 $7,063,641
44American Pie 22001-51.7%$13,477,195 $6,508,875
45Daredevil2003-51.8%$9,789,964 $4,723,035
46The Simpsons Movie2007-52.4%$19,479,149 $9,277,515
47Rush Hour 22001-52.5%$19,956,000 $9,470,392
48The Bourne Ultimatum2007-52.7%$19,324,800 $9,131,700
49The Fast and the Furious2001-53.0%$11,063,880 $5,203,440
50The Village2004-53.4%$12,886,097 $6,006,877
51Hancock2008-53.6%$18,294,508 $8,481,615
52Fellowship of the Ring2001-53.9%$15,915,778 $7,332,948
53The Spy Who Shagged Me1999-54.1%$16,565,000 $7,609,000
54The Order of the Phoenix2007-54.6%$22,955,554 $10,415,480
55Transformers2007-55.2%$22,144,125 $9,927,640
56Bad Boys II2003-55.2%$13,435,935 $6,017,302
57Wanted2008-55.3%$14,271,625 $6,381,750
58The Bourne Supremacy2004-55.5%$14,543,175 $6,472,425
59Mr. & Mrs. Smith2005-55.9%$13,972,763 $6,165,118
60X-Men2000-56.0%$14,406,045 $6,332,165
61Attack of the Clones2002-56.3%$24,369,439 $10,660,341
628 Mile2002-56.4%$13,103,235 $5,718,050
63Sex and the City2008-56.7%$12,716,359 $5,512,485
64Terminator 32003-57.0%$13,264,560 $5,705,435
65I, Robot2004-57.3%$14,901,033 $6,362,656
66Men in Black II2002-57.5%$13,811,088 $5,864,188
67Batman Begins2005-57.7%$15,656,151 $6,627,412
683002007-57.9%$18,097,726 $7,617,203
69Fantastic Four2005-57.9%$14,656,001 $6,176,738
70Revenge of the Sith2005-58.0%$34,212,468 $14,352,807
71Planet of the Apes2001-58.0%$19,552,000 $8,219,306
72xXx2002-58.0%$11,960,715 $5,017,652
73The Da Vinci Code2006-58.3%$21,125,768 $8,811,932
74Scooby Doo2002-58.8%$14,613,958 $6,014,477
75I Am Legend2007-59.3%$18,356,821 $7,465,450
76Batman & Robin1997-59.8%$11,660,719 $4,688,266
77Rush Hour 32007-59.9%$13,031,000 $5,227,000
78Jurassic Park III2001-60.3%$14,783,370 $5,872,140
79The Matrix Reloaded2003-61.2%$26,054,783 $10,108,350
80The Incredible Hulk2008-61.4%$15,562,200 $6,010,405
81Tomb Raider2001-62.3%$12,531,000 $4,725,061
82Hulk2003-62.5%$16,305,255 $6,112,200
83The Nutty Professor II2000-62.5%$12,352,020 $4,636,065
84Cars2006-62.6%$17,124,836 $6,407,907
85The Matrix Revolutions2003-63.1%$12,420,905 $4,587,414
86Kung Fu Panda2008-63.5%$17,285,274 $6,316,507
87The Passion of the Christ2004-63.6%$27,860,195 $10,131,876
88King Kong2005-63.8%$15,556,225 $5,638,125
89Fantastic Four 22007-64.1%$16,413,435 $5,896,708
90Troy2004-64.1%$12,752,783 $4,577,335
91Casino Royale2006-64.1%$10,677,868 $3,836,772
92American Gangster2007-64.4%$10,047,660 $3,573,180
93The Prisoner of Azkaban2004-64.8%$23,925,205 $8,428,431
94Spider-Man 2002-65.3%$31,814,980 $11,034,785
952 Fast 2 Furious2003-66.6%$12,490,320 $4,174,805
96Shrek 22004-67.0%$34,900,541 $11,512,320
97Die Another Day2002-68.1%$11,406,652 $3,637,421
98Finding Nemo2003-68.5%$22,032,107 $6,945,560
99Shrek2001-68.5%$13,251,433 $4,173,525
100The Mummy1999-68.5%$11,568,445 $3,642,215
101Anger Management2003-68.5%$9,296,191 $2,929,271
102Van Helsing2005-68.6%$12,583,985 $3,950,375
103Prince Caspian2008-68.7%$15,240,939 $4,774,987
104The Goblet of Fire2005-68.8%$25,848,463 $8,055,221
105X22003-70.6%$22,310,123 $6,549,717
106Horton Hears a Who!2008-72.0%$12,901,768 $3,615,494
107Charlie's Angels2000-72.0%$9,884,030 $2,767,188
108Mission: Impossible III2006-72.2%$12,701,240 $3,531,502
109The Mummy Returns2001-72.4%$17,838,245 $4,931,450
110Hannibal2001-72.6%$15,218,000 $4,171,700
111Harry Potter2001-72.8%$24,448,477 $6,642,702
112Deep Impact1998-72.9%$11,080,669 $3,004,361
113Shrek 32007-73.3%$36,124,782 $9,632,139
114The Chronicles of Narnia2005-73.3%$17,223,441 $4,603,152
115Iron Man2008-73.4%$26,034,208 $6,934,568
116Scary Movie 32003-73.9%$10,714,000 $2,801,000
117Spider-Man 32007-74.2%$39,937,865 $10,285,268
118Happy Feet2006-75.1%$12,148,078 $3,022,447
119Ice Age2002-77.8%$13,603,378 $3,019,472
120Ice Age 22006-78.2%$18,293,907 $3,984,233
121Alvin and the Chipmunks2007-78.2%$12,122,872 $2,641,866
122The Chamber of Secrets2002-78.3%$24,512,232 $5,321,301
123How the Grinch Stole Christmas2000-78.4%$16,729,450 $3,611,685
124Monsters, Inc.2001-79.5%$18,240,489 $3,747,215
125Toy Story 21999-81.3%$13,431,816 $2,511,086
126The Incredibles2004-81.4%$20,440,611 $3,802,480
127Shark Tale2004-82.7%$13,598,117 $2,356,076
128Chicken Little2005-84.2%$12,122,834 $1,916,322
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