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Re: Wanted - $170m+ club
getluv wrote:
wow. clearly you we're too busy looking at McAvoy.
I gave a countdown of what actually DOES happen in the trailer. You were wrong, and that's it.
Jolie has another moment in the trailer when the car jumps towards the train, but the way it's edited makes it unclear who is driving the car.
Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:13 pm
Mr. R
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Re: Wanted - $170m+ club
getluv wrote:
Rumpelschtiltzchen wrote:
getluv wrote:
Beowulf made $190m WW. Paramount's advertising was all about her.
Yeah, and because of that the movie flopped so badly. Jolie is served well only with crowd-appealing premise and as an addition to good cast. Alone she is not a draw at all.
It did not flop. What were you expecting for some CGI-action-fantasy flick. It doesn't exactly scream $3 billion.
A budget of $165 m making $195 m in theaters is a Flop. It screamed at least $300 m if not that stupid positioning strategy "see Jolie's tits and ass in Real 3D". I've seen the movie in IMAX 3D and it was a truly great experience. And instead of selling that as an epic adventure with a unique 3D experience (as it actually was) they tried to sell it as a movie about Jolie and her tits and ass and how great they look in CGI and 3D. Nobody bought it. I'd say the movie flopped that badly primarily because they've advertised too much Jolie and too little Beowulf, making it less appealing.
Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:18 pm
getluv
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Re: Wanted - $170m+ club
The TV spot that was watched by 96m+ viewers:
Jolie is given more to do here.
Game. Set. Match.
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Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:19 pm
getluv
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Re: Wanted - $170m+ club
Rumpelschtiltzchen wrote:
getluv wrote:
Rumpelschtiltzchen wrote:
getluv wrote:
Beowulf made $190m WW. Paramount's advertising was all about her.
Yeah, and because of that the movie flopped so badly. Jolie is served well only with crowd-appealing premise and as an addition to good cast. Alone she is not a draw at all.
It did not flop. What were you expecting for some CGI-action-fantasy flick. It doesn't exactly scream $3 billion.
A budget of $165 m making $195 m in theaters is a Flop. It screamed at least $300 m if not that stupid positioning strategy "see Jolie's tits and ass in Real 3D". I've seen the movie in IMAX 3D and it was a truly great experience. And instead of selling that as an epic adventure with a unique 3D experience (as it actually was) they tried to sell it as a movie about Jolie and her tits and ass and how great they look in CGI and 3D. Nobody bought it. I'd say the movie flopped that badly primarily because they've advertised too much Jolie and too little Beowulf, making it less appealing.
It did not scream $300m to me. It screamed shit and WTF to me. I don't think CGI-fantasy is an in-thing.
it's not a flop. after tv licensing, dvd, blu-ray etc it will eventuatly make a profit. A film like Catwoman or The Invasion won't. Like i said, it's a disappointment.
Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:22 pm
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Re: Wanted - $170m+ club
getluv wrote:
The TV spot that was watched by 96m+ viewers:
Game. Set. Match.
If they will change their marketing and try to fool audience into believing that it's a film about Jolie kicking ass, I agree that it will at least open bigger.
But the problem is, it's not a film about Jolie. She is playing 3rd billing and it's a film about a nerd nobody has ever heard of playing an action hero. And they will have a really, really hard time trying to hide that.
McAvoy ain't Brad Pitt, as far as audience appeal goes.
Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:23 pm
getluv
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Re: Wanted - $170m+ club
we shall see.
Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:26 pm
Mr. R
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Re: Wanted - $170m+ club
getluv wrote:
It did not scream $300m to me. It screamed shit and WTF to me. I don't think CGI-fantasy is an in-thing.
it's not a flop. after tv licensing, dvd, blu-ray etc it will eventuatly make a profit. A film like Catwoman or The Invasion won't. Like i said, it's a disappointment.
Oh, actually it doesn't matter what it "did scream" to you and what do you think after a movie flopped months ago. It's easy to be a smart head after the fact. It is a flop. One of the biggest in years.
Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:33 pm
Mr. R
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Re: Wanted - $170m+ club
I think it was the right idea to make Jolie look like no more that just a supporting actress in the trailer (as she actually will be in a movie) - this gives a clear message that they are not going to sell shit in a fancy wrapping. This says that the movie will have something much more interesting than Jolie's "easy selling" and "universally appealing" tits and ass. I think she is becoming more of an anti-draw these days because they have overused this strategy.
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Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:38 pm
getluv
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Re: Wanted - $170m+ club
Rumpelschtiltzchen wrote:
getluv wrote:
It did not scream $300m to me. It screamed shit and WTF to me. I don't think CGI-fantasy is an in-thing.
it's not a flop. after tv licensing, dvd, blu-ray etc it will eventuatly make a profit. A film like Catwoman or The Invasion won't. Like i said, it's a disappointment.
Oh, actually it doesn't matter what it "did scream" to you and what do you think after a movie flopped months ago. It's easy to be a smart head after the fact. It is a flop. One of the biggest in years.
Clearly you're not the smartest tool in the shed. I hate to bring this up, but I'm always right. Never wrong. Also it seems you know very little about the box office. you should leave it to the experts, like BJ.
btw, Evan Almighty cost $210m to make.
Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:38 pm
Mr. R
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Re: Wanted - $170m+ club
getluv wrote:
Rumpelschtiltzchen wrote:
getluv wrote:
It did not scream $300m to me. It screamed shit and WTF to me. I don't think CGI-fantasy is an in-thing.
it's not a flop. after tv licensing, dvd, blu-ray etc it will eventuatly make a profit. A film like Catwoman or The Invasion won't. Like i said, it's a disappointment.
Oh, actually it doesn't matter what it "did scream" to you and what do you think after a movie flopped months ago. It's easy to be a smart head after the fact. It is a flop. One of the biggest in years.
Clearly you're not the smartest tool in the shed
btw, Evan Almighty cost $210m to make.
I'm not arguing with medically proven idiots, my friend. You can say whatever you want talking to yourself.
Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:41 pm
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Re: Wanted - $170m+ club
Really? This, a blockbuster?? I never saw more than $60 million for it. No one has any idea what it's about besides curving bullets. Looks like a Matrix ripoff.
Opening: $19 million Total: $48 million
Maybe I'm totally wrong.
Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:42 pm
Mr. R
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Re: Wanted - $170m+ club
getluv, it's better not to be an expert in the box-office than to be an complete idiot in everyday life.
Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:43 pm
getluv
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Re: Wanted - $170m+ club
Rumpelschtiltzchen wrote:
getluv wrote:
Rumpelschtiltzchen wrote:
getluv wrote:
It did not scream $300m to me. It screamed shit and WTF to me. I don't think CGI-fantasy is an in-thing.
it's not a flop. after tv licensing, dvd, blu-ray etc it will eventuatly make a profit. A film like Catwoman or The Invasion won't. Like i said, it's a disappointment.
Oh, actually it doesn't matter what it "did scream" to you and what do you think after a movie flopped months ago. It's easy to be a smart head after the fact. It is a flop. One of the biggest in years.
Clearly you're not the smartest tool in the shed
btw, Evan Almighty cost $210m to make.
I'm not arguing with medically proven idiots, my friend. You can say whatever you want talking to yourself.
well lets use your words then.
Evan Almighty cost $210m^, made only $175m. Beowulf $185m with a $150m cost. One is already making (gross) profit, while one is yet in the black. You say the biggest in years. Evan Almighty was released in June, Beowulf in November. The last time i checked my Gregorian calendar, thats a 5 month difference.
I think that medically proves that you are a retard. yeah, a retard.
^http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/uni-nixes-new-deal-for-tom-shadyac/ < i added a reference
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Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:48 pm
getluv
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Re: Wanted - $170m+ club
Rumpelschtiltzchen wrote:
getluv, it's better not to be an expert in the box-office than to be an complete idiot in everyday life.
i rather be an idiot than a retard.
Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:50 pm
Mr. R
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Re: Wanted - $170m+ club
getluv wrote:
Rumpelschtiltzchen wrote:
getluv, it's better not to be an expert in the box-office than to be an complete idiot in everyday life.
i rather be an idiot than a retard.
When a person says he is always right, this means that he is not only wrong, but Knows it.
A retard is a person who is ABLE to understand the logic, but not immediately. An idiot is a person who is NOT ABLE to understand the logic at all. It's better to be a retard than getluv, oh, sorry, I wanted to say "idiot", wasn't intend to offend your feelings (but anyway, my dictionary says these are synonyms used interchangeably).
Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:07 pm
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Re: Wanted - $170m+ club
Not in.
I heard that Jolie is box office poison, and from seing some of her films, and the last film she was in Beowulf, proves that she pretty much is.
The concept looks interesting, but i get the feeling of matrix or equilibrium from this movie, dont know why.
I say: Lucky to reach 100m?
Hey, if Cloverfield couldnt do it, then i doubt this will.
65m, tops?
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Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:06 pm
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Re: Wanted - $170m+ club
OW: 19m Domestic TotaL: 50m
Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:13 pm
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Re: Wanted - $170m+ club
getluv wrote:
The TV spot that was watched by 96m+ viewers:
Jolie is given more to do here.
Game. Set. Match.
This movie totally stole my ideas.
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Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:50 pm
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Re: Wanted - $170m+ club
Not in. I'm predicting 38/130
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Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:09 pm
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Re: Wanted - $170m+ club
the trailer playing with Jumper was one of the coolest things basically ever.
but this has little chance at $100m, let alone $170m.
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Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:31 pm
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Re: Wanted - $170m+ club
How you doin billybob?
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Re: Wanted - $170m+ club
Hell no.
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