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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21896 Location: Walking around somewhere
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 Re: Star Trek Into Darkness
Agreed, I got more emotion out of the guy beaming his daughter up, and erasing any existence of his wrongdoings to anything Kahn did. That moment with Kirk to his crew was the most emotional part of the film, and the only time payoff really happened (Scotty's other great moment)
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Fri May 17, 2013 1:38 am |
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21896 Location: Walking around somewhere
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 Re: Star Trek Into Darkness
Also, I hope there is no more old Spock. He was amazing in the first film. Here, he is just a way to move the plot along
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Fri May 17, 2013 1:41 am |
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21896 Location: Walking around somewhere
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 Re: Star Trek Into Darkness
Absolutely, the only person to ever imitate that well was George Castanza in Seinfeld. Honestly, it'd be just as awkward as someone saying Hasta La Vista Baby. I thought almost all of Spocks interaction with Kirk was forced as well. I did not sense 4 or 5 years has passed. They were just the same problems as the first film, only slightly more civil.
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Fri May 17, 2013 1:50 am |
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21896 Location: Walking around somewhere
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 Re: Star Trek Into Darkness
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Fri May 17, 2013 1:51 am |
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25427 Location: Classified
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 Re: Star Trek Into Darkness
Thegun wrote: I did not sense 4 or 5 years has passed. I had the impression that less than a year had passed since the last one. The characters weren't supposed to have gained anything while we were away. The only thing that has changed is the rapid advancement of warpcore technology. 1. Wrath of Kahn 2. Star Trek 09 3. The Voyage Home 4. Into Darkness 5. The Undiscovered Country 6. First Contact 7. Search for Spock 8. Final Frontier 9. Generations 10. Insurrection . . . . . . . . . . . . 11. The Motion Picture I barely remember Nemesis.
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Fri May 17, 2013 2:42 am |
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publicenemy#1
Extraordinary
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 19444 Location: San Diego
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 Re: Star Trek Into Darkness
A very quick and entertaining 2 hours. I do think should've had a more epic feel for the second half though. I thought the Spock/Kirk stuff was good but I wish we got more of the supporting characters.
Like almost every movie I've seen in 3-D, it's noticeable at some points but overall not worth the ridiculous price.
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Fri May 17, 2013 5:39 am |
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska
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 Re: Star Trek Into Darkness
BJs Grade A/A+ Competing with Trek 09 for my favorite Trek film. Absolutely amazing from beginning to end, retelling a classic story with perfection. Quinto was awesome, easily my favorite performance in the film, Cumberbatch was totally aces as Kahn. The rest of the cast was rock solid. Easily the best film of 2013 so far. I think the 3D really helped bring this film to life, at times fake and flat looking but the majority of the time it looked great, best post conversion I have seen for sure. I was very happy that kirk was restored within this film, a film devoted to saving him would have been just as mediocre as The Search for Spock.
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Fri May 17, 2013 5:44 am |
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21896 Location: Walking around somewhere
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 Re: Star Trek Into Darkness
But an opening like Return of the Jedi would have been awesome!
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Fri May 17, 2013 7:35 am |
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Price
Gamaur's sex slave
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:15 pm Posts: 8889 Location: Los Pollos Hermanos
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 Re: Star Trek Into Darkness
BJ wrote: I think the 3D really helped bring this film to life, at times fat looking ...
Cue Algren: Great, now everyone on Star Trek looks like Jennifer Lawrence...
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Fri May 17, 2013 8:13 am |
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thompsoncory
Rachel McAdams Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:13 am Posts: 14627 Location: LA / NYC
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 Re: Star Trek Into Darkness
It's fantastic. It's pretty much the perfect summer movie - Benedict Cumberbatch is a great villain and I found his character pretty fascinating. The action sequences are very well-staged and exciting, especially the final half hour or so, and the entire cast is as charming as ever. Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto and Zoe Saldana take center stage here as they did before (with Saldana getting a bit more to do this time around) and all three are great. Karl Urban and Simon Pegg deliver memorable supporting performances. The relationship between Kirk and Spock is still the heart of this entry, and a scene between them near the end rivals the opening scene of the first as one of the best and most moving scenes in the entire franchise. It's just an absolute blast and I can't wait to see it again. A
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Fri May 17, 2013 11:18 am |
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska
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 Re: Star Trek Into Darkness
Price wrote: BJ wrote: I think the 3D really helped bring this film to life, at times fat looking ...
Cue Algren: Great, now everyone on Star Trek looks like Jennifer Lawrence...  fixing.
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Fri May 17, 2013 12:53 pm |
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21896 Location: Walking around somewhere
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 Re: Star Trek Into Darkness
BJ wrote: BJs Grade
at times fake and flat looking but the majority of the time it looked great, best post conversion I have seen for sure. Cue Algren- Great now everyone on Star Trek looks like Angelina Jolie I felt bad as I wrote that, I don't know how he does it
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Fri May 17, 2013 1:01 pm |
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska
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 Re: Star Trek Into Darkness
Thegun wrote: But an opening like Return of the Jedi would have been awesome! I'm pretty sure that this version of Kahn would have found a way to kill them all before recapture if they didn't recover him within Into Darkness. I think that this ending was the best way to save Kirk without it seeming ridiculous and/or stupid. The Searchbfo Spok could have been a much better film, thought it was not bad. And indeed a ROTJ style resurrection would work, but I like what the went with.
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Fri May 17, 2013 1:06 pm |
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska
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 Re: Star Trek Into Darkness
Thegun wrote: BJ wrote: BJs Grade
at times fake and flat looking but the majority of the time it looked great, best post conversion I have seen for sure. Cue Algren- Great now everyone on Star Trek looks like Angelina Jolie I felt bad as I wrote that, I don't know how he does it Indeed not a tasteful joke. Agreed, I was shocked by his remarks about Jolie.
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Fri May 17, 2013 1:10 pm |
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21896 Location: Walking around somewhere
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 Re: Star Trek Into Darkness
BJ wrote: Thegun wrote: But an opening like Return of the Jedi would have been awesome! I'm pretty sure that this version of Kahn would have found a way to kill them all before recapture if they didn't recover him within Into Darkness. I think that this ending was the best way to save Kirk without it seeming ridiculous and/or stupid. The Searchbfo Spok could have been a much better film, thought it was not bad. And indeed a ROTJ style resurrection would work, but I like what the went with. True but I would have liked a battle between Kahn and Kirk with side effects from Kahn's blood making him a formidable opponent. Kirk being belittled by Kahn throughout was yet another bit of payoff that was ignored by the abrupt ending. Also there is no mention if Kahn's "Amazing Blood" was going to be mass produced now. Considering it could bring people back from any kind of illness (cancer, coma, dead other than the brain!) Another issue I have is the whole beaming problems in this film. Kahn can use Scotty's technology and beam halfway accross the universe into some sort of cave, yet the Enterprise can't get Spock a few hundred yards away in a volcano, or Spock and Kahn off a moving future taxi? It's Star Trek so I can't get too annoyed, but I'm just surprised so many people are calling perfect. It's plot is up there with stupidness of needing Humpback whales so Earth isn't destroyed by a giant whale speaking swiss cake roll.
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Fri May 17, 2013 1:17 pm |
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publicenemy#1
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 19444 Location: San Diego
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 Re: Star Trek Into Darkness
thompsoncory wrote: (with Saldana getting a bit more to do this time around) Really? Besides fighting w/ Spock, speaking Klingon and shooting a gun at the end I felt like she wasn't in it that much. Would've been nice to see her character more imo.
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Fri May 17, 2013 1:26 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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 Re: Star Trek Into Darkness
Looking at the cast, it is unfortunate that Urban was entirely wasted here. I loved him as Bones in the first one.
On the upside, Scotty had more to do.
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Fri May 17, 2013 2:24 pm |
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thompsoncory
Rachel McAdams Fan
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:13 am Posts: 14627 Location: LA / NYC
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 Re: Star Trek Into Darkness
Urban's one-liners were great.
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Fri May 17, 2013 2:44 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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 Re: Star Trek Into Darkness
Except he's used for nothing more than one-liners.
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Fri May 17, 2013 2:51 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Magnus wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: Except he's used for nothing more than one-liners. And his one-liners are a major highlight of the film. Also Im not sure how he's used any significantly better or worse in previous film. Bones is a side character and he's used as such. He is not overused or underused. He has great chemistry with Kirk there and their interplay is better. The scene in which Bones gets Kirk on the Enterprise - classic.
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Fri May 17, 2013 4:46 pm |
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21896 Location: Walking around somewhere
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 Re: Star Trek Into Darkness
I agree, I like the relationship between Kirk and Bones, Sulu, and Scotty much more than with Spock because of the first film. Unfortunately their scenes together combined equal like one Kirk and Spock scene in the film.
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Fri May 17, 2013 4:55 pm |
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Gopher
You are waiting for a train
Joined: Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:25 pm Posts: 995
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I think it's a mostly fun movie with a nonsensical, overcomplicated script and way too many familiarities. Cumberbatch is only given a couple of great moments, otherwise he felt like a generic villain who punched well and stood around a lot.
I think everything Kurtzman and Orci touch turns to stupid.
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Sat May 18, 2013 12:20 am |
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David
Pure Phase
Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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 Re: Star Trek Into Darkness
An entertaining and satisfying science-fiction action film, though perhaps a bit deflating, too, considering the glowing response to the prior film and the longer than expected four-year wait for the Enterprise's next big-screen adventure. This is not an inspired sequel in which each character, theme, and visual idea reaches a new and powerful height, which I suspect many hoped for, so much as a conservative and pleasant extension of the last film's various charms. The forceful and magnetic presence of Benedict Cumberbatch as antagonist "John Harrison" elevates the picture, though I wish his character were more nuanced on the page. Chris Pine still feels perfectly cast as Captain Jim Kirk, though one hopes a hypothetical third film finds more to do with the character than once again position him as a hotshot horn-dog in the first act who learns the meaning of community and leadership under fire.
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Sat May 18, 2013 12:38 am |
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zingy
College Boy Z
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:40 pm Posts: 36662
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Awesome, awesome, awesome.
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Sat May 18, 2013 2:01 am |
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Riggs
We had our time together
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 4:36 am Posts: 13299 Location: Vienna
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zingy wrote: Awesome, awesome, awesome. This is the way to review this movie. 
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Sat May 18, 2013 4:00 am |
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