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Stealth - What went wrong?

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___Emperor___ Speed Racer Joined: Mon May 23, 2005 3:41 pm Posts: 153	Stealth - What went wrong? What a flop. 100 million budget and probably around 25 million final gross. What went wrong? Is jamie foxx on his path to the list of oscar winning actors now making one critically mutilated box office bomb after another?
Sun Jul 31, 2005 6:52 pm

zingy College Boy Z Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:40 pm Posts: 36662	It'll likely end with with around $30 million (I mean, it's gotta do better than XXX2...). As for 'what went wrong', it can't be the marketing because the marketing was one of the best things about the movie. I don't believe the stars hurt it, although a better lead could have produced a better opening weekend. Plain and simple, there was no interest.
Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:09 pm

A. G. Draughty Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:23 am Posts: 13347	It was a concept that might have been popular in 1989.
Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:13 pm

Algren now we know Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68220 Location: Seattle, WA	Jamie Foxx, yeh good man "I remember him from that Ray film".....Jessica Biel, yeh she's fit "I vaguley remember her on something else"...who is this other punk? :laugh: Seriously, it was the concept. Like Archie said. _________________ STOP UIGHUR GENOCIDE IN XINJIANG FIGHT FOR TAIWAN INDEPENDENCE FREE TIBET LIBERATE HONG KONG BOYCOTT MADE IN CHINA
Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:22 pm

Dr. Lecter You must have big rats Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany	It definitely wasn't the marketing. Also, the backlash against Rob Cohen couldn't have been THAT great. There is one thing that made me worried about it all the time and that was the fact that it dealt with fighting jets. How many successful airfight movies, except Top Gun, do you know? That's a rather unknown field. Now we know that it doesn't really pay off. The Island was probably a bit too sci-fi... I believe that what is needed is some more down-to-earth action movies, like Con Air and Face Off... Then again, there was xXx 2... _________________ The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:25 pm

Algren now we know Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68220 Location: Seattle, WA	We need action movies that aren't really action movies but they are cool with action. Like Payback, Collateral & Ocean's Eleven Those sort of things work nowadays. NOT action action, like xXx 2. _________________ STOP UIGHUR GENOCIDE IN XINJIANG FIGHT FOR TAIWAN INDEPENDENCE FREE TIBET LIBERATE HONG KONG BOYCOTT MADE IN CHINA
Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:30 pm

Dr. Lecter You must have big rats Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany	Algren wrote: We need action movies that aren't really action movies but they are cool with action. Like Payback, Collateral & Ocean's Eleven Those sort of things work nowadays. NOT action action, like xXx 2. Well, Bad Boys II still worked two years ago. And so did S.W.A.T. _________________ The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:33 pm

El Maskado Arrrrrrrrrrgggghhhhhhhhhh! Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:17 pm Posts: 21572	Dr. Lecter wrote: It definitely wasn't the marketing. Also, the backlash against Rob Cohen couldn't have been THAT great. There is one thing that made me worried about it all the time and that was the fact that it dealt with fighting jets. How many successful airfight movies, except Top Gun, do you know? That's a rather unknown field. Now we know that it doesn't really pay off. The Island was probably a bit too sci-fi... I believe that what is needed is some more down-to-earth action movies, like Con Air and Face Off... Then again, there was xXx 2... Thats what I said before too but the posters here dismissed my point when I mentioned that the only real successful jet movie was Top Gun. Flight of the Intruders, Firefox, Iron Eagle, and the Right Stuff all bombed
Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:36 pm

zingy College Boy Z Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:40 pm Posts: 36662	What we need is the bankable stars to back up these action flicks... XXX2, Stealth, and The Island did not have this one key requirement, which Bad Boys II, I, Robot, S.W.A.T. (to some extent), and XXX had. For those who said Mission: Impossible III is in trouble, I seriously doubt it, because not only does that have a fanbase and a huge audience, but also Tom Cruise, who can draw in lots of people.
Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:36 pm

Algren now we know Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68220 Location: Seattle, WA	Dr. Lecter wrote: Algren wrote: We need action movies that aren't really action movies but they are cool with action. Like Payback, Collateral & Ocean's Eleven Those sort of things work nowadays. NOT action action, like xXx 2. Well, Bad Boys II still worked two years ago. And so did S.W.A.T. Exactly what i mean. They had an element of 'cool' about them. When i see a fat black dude jumping onto a helicopter and an explosion and then a boat chase and what not...i dont want to be wowed, i want to cry...with laughter. There is a difference. xXx 2 is laughable. SWAT was cool, as was BB2. _________________ STOP UIGHUR GENOCIDE IN XINJIANG FIGHT FOR TAIWAN INDEPENDENCE FREE TIBET LIBERATE HONG KONG BOYCOTT MADE IN CHINA
Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:37 pm

El Maskado Arrrrrrrrrrgggghhhhhhhhhh! Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:17 pm Posts: 21572	Zingaling wrote: What we need is the bankable stars to back up these action flicks... XXX2, Stealth, and The Island did not have this one key requirement, which Bad Boys II, I, Robot, S.W.A.T. (to some extent), and XXX had. For those who said Mission: Impossible III is in trouble, I seriously doubt it, because not only does that have a fanbase and a huge audience, but also Tom Cruise, who can draw in lots of people. I do think MI3 is in trouble, they have been trying to find a director for the movie for so long. Its shape is as bad as Rush Hour 3 is where they are losing the director. MI3 problems almost mirros that is because Tom Cruise delayed the movie to do WOTW and the people that were supposed to be cast like Scarlet and Carrir Ann Moss all dropped out of the project, dont forget that they had 2 other directors who dropped out too. MI3 may not bomb but Im willing to wager that it will do either below the first MI's number or just barely go over it
Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:39 pm

A. G. Draughty Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:23 am Posts: 13347	The Stealth bomber/fighters are over 15 years old, the title conjures up an image of something that sounded cool and cutting edge in the Reagan era.
Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:43 pm

Algren now we know Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68220 Location: Seattle, WA	People will forget that when its released. MOST people dotn even know all the problems that went on. It'll do superbly. _________________ STOP UIGHUR GENOCIDE IN XINJIANG FIGHT FOR TAIWAN INDEPENDENCE FREE TIBET LIBERATE HONG KONG BOYCOTT MADE IN CHINA
Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:44 pm

El Maskado Arrrrrrrrrrgggghhhhhhhhhh! Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 8:17 pm Posts: 21572	Archie Gates wrote: The Stealth bomber/fighters are over 15 years old, the title conjures up an image of something that sounded cool and cutting edge in the Reagan era. Dont forget the soundtrack. Dont forget the soundtrack. Images of Baywatch music conjure up in everyones mind
Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:44 pm

Dr. Lecter You must have big rats Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany	Zingaling wrote: What we need is the bankable stars to back up these action flicks... XXX2, Stealth, and The Island did not have this one key requirement, which Bad Boys II, I, Robot, S.W.A.T. (to some extent), and XXX had. For those who said Mission: Impossible III is in trouble, I seriously doubt it, because not only does that have a fanbase and a huge audience, but also Tom Cruise, who can draw in lots of people. Well, S.W.A.T. hardly had more starpower than xXx 2. Both had Sam L. Jackson and Ice Cube is hardly less of a draw then Colin Farrell. At worst, they are equal. _________________ The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:45 pm

Dr. Lecter You must have big rats Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany	Algren wrote: People will forget that when its released. MOST people dotn even know all the problems that went on. Exactly. _________________ The greatest thing on earth is to love and to be loved in return!
Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:46 pm

wanderer Star Trek XI Joined: Tue May 10, 2005 8:02 pm Posts: 340	Isn't MI:3 already filming? It's gonna have to make a lot of money though, because even though Cruise renegotiated, I think he's still getting a large percentage of the gross.
Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:02 pm

Flava'd vs The World The Kramer Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25168 Location: Classified	Dr. Lecter wrote: Zingaling wrote: What we need is the bankable stars to back up these action flicks... XXX2, Stealth, and The Island did not have this one key requirement, which Bad Boys II, I, Robot, S.W.A.T. (to some extent), and XXX had. For those who said Mission: Impossible III is in trouble, I seriously doubt it, because not only does that have a fanbase and a huge audience, but also Tom Cruise, who can draw in lots of people. Well, S.W.A.T. hardly had more starpower than xXx 2. Both had Sam L. Jackson and Ice Cube is hardly less of a draw then Colin Farrell. At worst, they are equal. SWAT also had LL and Michelle Rodriguez. And it had that dude shouting 100 MILLION DOLLARS. Which had people reminded of Dr Evil. Stealth had a horrible title as did The Island. When you see Jamie Foxx flying around in a jet, Jessica Biel in a bikini, the dude from Dawn of the Dead laughing at a bad joke, and all this shit blowing up .. you don't think Stealth. Kinda hard to attract the non internet crowd, and alot of y'all thought it looked horrible. Plus the overload of sci-fi/action movies this summer. Poor Jamie Foxx.
Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:15 pm

jb007 Veteran Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 1:47 pm Posts: 3917 Location: Las Vegas	It got made in the first place. :wink: _________________ Dr. RajKumar 4/24/1929 - 4/12/2006 The Greatest Actor Ever. Thanks for The Best Cinematic Memories of My Life.
Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:18 pm

Lucky The Incredible Hulk Joined: Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:50 am Posts: 514	What went wrong? 1. Bad concept 2. A serious lack of starpower. (Jamie Who??)
Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:44 pm

FILMO The Original Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:19 am Posts: 9808 Location: Suisse	People are interested in Airwolf and Knight Rider concepts and...... Ah wait that was 20 Years ago. And sorry the trailer was laughable. :???: _________________ Libs wrote: FILMO, I'd rather have you eat chocolate syrup off my naked body than be a moderator here.
Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:47 pm

KC Team Kris Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:57 pm Posts: 1024	El_Masked_esteROIDe_user wrote: Dr. Lecter wrote: It definitely wasn't the marketing. Also, the backlash against Rob Cohen couldn't have been THAT great. There is one thing that made me worried about it all the time and that was the fact that it dealt with fighting jets. How many successful airfight movies, except Top Gun, do you know? That's a rather unknown field. Now we know that it doesn't really pay off. The Island was probably a bit too sci-fi... I believe that what is needed is some more down-to-earth action movies, like Con Air and Face Off... Then again, there was xXx 2... Thats what I said before too but the posters here dismissed my point when I mentioned that the only real successful jet movie was Top Gun. Flight of the Intruders, Firefox, Iron Eagle, and the Right Stuff all bombed Top Gun...... Another Jerry Bruckheimer production. See a trend here. :wink: _________________ "You're going to tell me what I want to know. The only question is how much you want it to hurt." Jack Bauer- Season 5
Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:42 pm

Eagle Site Owner Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:09 pm Posts: 14631 Location: Pittsburgh	No. Big ole Jerry is just insanely lucky. It is the only explination. _________________
Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:35 pm

COMICGUY Indiana Jones IV Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:11 am Posts: 1649 Location: NOVA SCOTIA,CANADA	I watched it tonight.I am really surprised that it opened so poorly.I mean, this is summer don't people like to go see shit blown up for 2 hours any more.Hell,Jessica Biel in a bikini was worth the price of admission alone.This is a great summer popcorn movie :pop: as was The Island.I don't get it. ](*,) _________________ Jeff N
Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:42 pm

Algren now we know Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68220 Location: Seattle, WA	The more i watch the tv spots, the more i like it. Especially snice discovering that Jjessica Biel is a babe yesterday. _________________ STOP UIGHUR GENOCIDE IN XINJIANG FIGHT FOR TAIWAN INDEPENDENCE FREE TIBET LIBERATE HONG KONG BOYCOTT MADE IN CHINA
Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:53 pm
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