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BK
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Joined: Sun May 13, 2007 8:30 am Posts: 7041
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Also I'll go and add the others I missed for whatever reason:
Helped Justin Bieber My Bloody Valentine Monsters Vs Aliens Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs
Arguably helped Tangled Step Up (not sure either) Saw (despite one of the lowest or lowest admissions) Alpha and Omega Legend of the Guardians (not too sure, it was meant for 3D more than most, but still) Resident Evil (despite lowest admissions) A Christmas Carol Last Airbender Final Destination
Arguably hindered Cats & Dogs 2 (tougher because no one asked for it) Sanctum (OW but legs no) Narnia 3 (harder to say considering it kept falling but legging its way to 100 was done without 3D and it lost 3D pretty fast) Ice Age 3 G-Force
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Just one last thing, it is kind of pathetic that it arguably helped Tron Legacy because 3D was its main selling point so without it it would have lost Disney money just by direct comparison of budgets, of course in reality, it lost Disney money anyway without even factoring in marketing.
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MovieDude
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Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:50 am Posts: 11675
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Are you talking about domestic or worldwide? It seems like a lot of films are making the bulk of their 3D grosses outside of the United States. For instance, Resident Evil and Rio each got a huge boost by 3D outside the states, were they performed identical to a 2D version (same amount of money but less admissions)
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Sun May 08, 2011 8:28 am |
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MovieDude
Where will you be?
Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:50 am Posts: 11675
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See also: Gulliver's Travels. Domestically a bomb with 42 million on a 112 million budget. Worldwide? 230 million, and not such a bomb anymore...
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Bradley Witherberry
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Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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MovieDude wrote: See also: Gulliver's Travels. Domestically a bomb with 42 million on a 112 million budget. Worldwide? 230 million, and not such a bomb anymore... Sadly - - because it was actually a very good kid's movie - - though the 3D damaged the viewing experience as usual (in addition to the BO).
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Sun May 08, 2011 1:53 pm |
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BK
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Joined: Sun May 13, 2007 8:30 am Posts: 7041
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Worldwide people still like 3D and their economies are better.
Also 3D launched later. Next year sure there will be 3D fatigue in most markets.
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Bluebomb
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Joined: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:53 am Posts: 3028
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MovieDude wrote: See also: Gulliver's Travels. Domestically a bomb with 42 million on a 112 million budget. Worldwide? 230 million, and not such a bomb anymore... It made 4 million from Hong Kong alone. What a fucking travesty. It actually beat out Iron Man 2.
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Bradley Witherberry
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Bluebomb wrote: MovieDude wrote: See also: Gulliver's Travels. Domestically a bomb with 42 million on a 112 million budget. Worldwide? 230 million, and not such a bomb anymore... It made 4 million from Hong Kong alone. What a fucking travesty. It actually beat out Iron Man 2. You didn't enjoy it?
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Bradley Witherberry
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Theatre managers leaving 3D lenses on digital projectors for 2D screenings. Result: darkness for all!Quote: A walk through the AMC Loews Boston Common on Tremont Street one evening in mid-April illustrates the problem: gloomy, underlit images on eight of the multiplex’s 19 screens (theaters 5, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13, 15, and 18, to be specific). These are the auditoriums using new digital projectors that are transforming the movie exhibition business, machines that entirely do away with celluloid. The “film’’ comes in the form of a software file, and the projector pumps it onto the screen at high intensity.
Why, then, do so many of the movies look so terrible?
This particular night “Limitless,’’ “Win Win,’’ and “Source Code’’ all seemed strikingly dim and drained of colors. “Jane Eyre,’’ a film shot using candles and other available light, appeared to be playing in a crypt. A visit to the Regal Fenway two weeks later turned up similar issues: “Water for Elephants’’ and “Madea’s Big Happy Family’’ were playing in brightly lit 35mm prints and, across the hall, in drastically darker digital versions.
The difference can be extreme. Chapin Cutler, a cofounder of the high-end specialty projection company Boston Light & Sound, estimates that a film projected through a Sony with the 3-D lens in place and other adjustments not made can be as much as 85 percent darker than a properly projected film.
That’s dark enough for Hollywood director Peter Farrelly to complain loudly when his comedy “Hall Pass’’ had its promotional screening in two of the Common’s theaters prior to opening this past February. Farrelly went from one screening where the 3-D lens had been removed to a second in which the lens was still on, and he couldn’t believe his eyes.
“I walked into the room and I could barely see, and my stomach dropped,’’ the filmmaker said. “The first screening looked spectacular and the second was so dark, it was daytime versus nighttime. If they’re doing this for a big screening, I can’t imagine what they do for regular customers. That’s no way to see a movie.’’ 3D - - the plague is spreading!
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Jack Sparrow
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Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36949
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I don't think Pirates was shot in 3D and I don't think Thor fans are much crazier than Pirates to watch in 3D, it probably is the demo seperation. I think a lot of women and/or family demo that watched Pirates are not much interested in 3D versus a lot more male demo that watched Thor.
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Nazgul9
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:32 pm Posts: 11289 Location: Germany
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Magnus Prime wrote: So the whole native v. converted thing I think is stupid. What are you talking about? Of course the majority has no clue what's converted and what's not.
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Nazgul9
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Bradley Witherberry wrote: 3D - - the plague is spreading! There needs to be some kind of quality control ASAP. They are charging full money for a half-assed job. And they are wondering why some people don't go to theaters anymore...
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Nazgul9
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Jack Sparrow wrote: I don't think Pirates was shot in 3D It was.
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David
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Joined: Tue Feb 15, 2005 7:33 am Posts: 34865 Location: Maryland
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Jack Sparrow wrote: I don't think Pirates was shot in 3D But it was nonetheless.
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_axiom
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Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 10:50 am Posts: 16163 Location: Croatia
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Jack Sparrow wrote: I don't think Pirates was shot in 3D If anything it's obvious Pirates was shot in 3D compared to Thor's 3D.
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Sun May 22, 2011 7:46 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36949
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Aah thanks for the responses...I didn't see it in 3D and didn't knew that it was shot in 3D. Well good then I will try to catch it up in 3D if it is cheaper 
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BJ
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Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska
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transformers3 and potter8 for 80%+ 3D share.
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the lesser evil
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Joined: Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:13 am Posts: 1476 Location: The Netherlands
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BK wrote: Worldwide people still like 3D and their economies are better.
Also 3D launched later. Next year sure there will be 3D fatigue in most markets. I'm not sure if people really get a choice in every market. Maybe I'm just ignorant or blind, but over here I get the idea that films that are in 3D ONLY get 3D screens without any 2D alternative. Which sucks, because I don't like watching films in 3D. It feels like they're making my eyes put more effort into watching the damn film when I should just be sitting back and enjoying myself.
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Tuukka
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Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2005 8:35 am Posts: 1830 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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At least here in Finland a lot of big recent 3D movies like Thor are showing almost entirely on 3D screens. 2D screenings are mostly afternoon screenings, or in smaller screens.
So if you go to see an evening show with your friends, you often don't have any other real option that 3D.
And frankly, a lot of my friends prefer 2D over 3D.
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Proud Ryu
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Joined: Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:36 pm Posts: 5322 Location: The Interstice
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I just talked to a friend who is color blind and he says 3D gives him real problems - too dark and gives him a headache.
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MARVEL_ROCKS
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Proud Ryu wrote: I just talked to a friend who is color blind and he says 3D gives him real problems - too dark and gives him a headache. I just talked to a friend who said Ryu is color blind and hates 3D.
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Proud Ryu
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Joined: Thu Sep 27, 2007 3:36 pm Posts: 5322 Location: The Interstice
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MARVEL_ROCKS wrote: Proud Ryu wrote: I just talked to a friend who is color blind and he says 3D gives him real problems - too dark and gives him a headache. I just talked to a friend who said Ryu is color blind and hates 3D. Haha, they lied - I like 3D. Er, I like it about half the time, when I feel it was worth the extra dough.
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Jack Sparrow
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I am not 100% sure (I have personally never met or known a color blind person) but I don't think headaches are related to color-blindness but there are non-color-blind audience that are having the same problem.
I have had few friends having headaches with some movies and not having problems with others. One special case that I distinctly remember is for headaches in Tangled vs non-headaches in Resident Evil 4. This was very weird cause Resident Evil is darker movie generally and 3D made it worse whereas Tangled even in 3D was very colorful.
This could also depend on other factors like your day, mood, anticipation and theater settings.
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Bradley Witherberry
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Jack Sparrow wrote: I am not 100% sure (I have personally never met or known a color blind person)... That is highly unlikely, given that almost 10% of all men on the planet are color blind. Jack Sparrow wrote: ...but I don't think headaches are related to color-blindness but there are non-color-blind audience that are having the same problem. I agree - - though the previous generation of red-blue lens 3D technology simply didn't work for some color blind people. 
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Bradley Witherberry
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The Dying of the Light is yet another excellent essay from Roger Ebert, this time on the subject of the darkness of 2D movies from digital projectors and it's relation to the 3D fad (following up on the Boston.com article recently linked in this thread). Ebert helpfully provides a list of how to identify theatres improperly showing 2D movies thru 3D digital projectors (via Geek.com): Quote: • The title of the movie listed by the theater will have a "D" after it if it is being shown on a digital projector. • If you are in a D movie, look at the projector window when seated. If you see two stacked beams of light it is a Sony projector with the 3D lens still on. • A single beam of light means no 3D lens, or a different make of projector that doesn't have the issue. • If you see the two beams, then get up and go complain. You paid good money to see the movie, so make a fuss until they either give you back that money or remove the lens. Seeing as that's an involved and time-consuming process, expect a refund.
Also, one bright spot noted by Ebert is the continued signs that audiences are waking up to the pointlessness of 3D: Quote: I got emails from readers saying the night scenes in "Pirates of the Caribbean" were so dim they were annoying.
Ah, but what if you saw the movie in 2D? As it happens, a lot of people did; Gitesh Pandya of BoxOfficeGuru.com reported: "less than half of the Pirates weekend gross came from 3D screens, with more opting for the 2D version." He attributes that to moviegoers being "cautious with their dollars." After the weekend, David Poland of MovieCityNews.com ran the numbers and determined 60% of sales were in 2D and 40% in 3D: "Not only is this a clear rejection of 3D on a major movie, but given how distribution is currently designed, it makes you wonder whether Disney cost themselves a lot of gross by putting their film on too high a percentage of 3D screens."
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jmovies
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Apparently Kung Fu Panda 2 has only 45% of its gross in 3D. Pirates is apparently at 40%. Yeah 3D is dying fast.
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