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redfirebird2008
Cream of the Crop
Joined: Thu May 03, 2007 4:13 am Posts: 2483
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 Re: Inception min -40% 2nd wknd drop Club
Alex Y. wrote: The Cinemascore for Inception should be very alarming. Even though under-25 awards it an A-, the over-25 gave it a B-, which points to horrible legs from that demographic. I feel like the WOM and appeal for this movie is really demographic-dependent, with males in my age group and younger almost all loving the movie and will see it multiple times, but for other demographics it's another A.I./Vanilla Sky (bad).
As people who participate in online movie forums and do lots of reading/writing, we are the film's main target audience. This movie also appeals to our circle of friends as they most likely share common interests and possess a similar intellect level. But other groups of people will not like this type of movie will tell their similar-minded friends how confusing and non-enjoyable it is.
Because the older demographics are usually the ones that help the legs of the film, I don't see superb legs for this movie. The legs won't be as bad as Fight Club's, but now having seen the movie, I do not believe it will be able to crossover to enough demographics for a -40% 2nd weekend drop. Your statement about a B- isn't quite correct. What I saw is the over 50 demographic gave it a B-. Over 25 gave it a B. Newsflash: The Prestige had a B overall and a 3.5 something multiplier. CinemaScore doesn't always tell the tale on legs. Shutter Island had a C+ and damn good legs.
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Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:30 pm |
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32625 Location: the last free city
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soagg wrote: Rev wrote: It's happening  Get used to it members: Rev bluebomb TrekFan Why am I not included. You are very lazy and growing old for this  I'm working, not lazy. 
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Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:40 pm |
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Nazgul9
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:32 pm Posts: 11289 Location: Germany
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Magception wrote: But it'll drop under 35% on its later weekends if it drops 35% next weekend. That's not always true.
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Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:44 pm |
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32625 Location: the last free city
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xiayun wrote: Do a sub-35%.  that ain't happening, Xia  the best it will do is -40%
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Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:50 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36949
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Rev wrote: soagg wrote: Rev wrote: It's happening  Get used to it members: Rev bluebomb TrekFan Why am I not included. You are very lazy and growing old for this  I'm working, not lazy.  Ha ha just saw you added me. 
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Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:52 pm |
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Alex Y.
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Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 4:47 pm Posts: 5824
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redfirebird2008 wrote: Alex Y. wrote: The Cinemascore for Inception should be very alarming. Even though under-25 awards it an A-, the over-25 gave it a B-, which points to horrible legs from that demographic.<snip> Your statement about a B- isn't quite correct. What I saw is the over 50 demographic gave it a B-. Over 25 gave it a B. Newsflash: The Prestige had a B overall and a 3.5 something multiplier. CinemaScore doesn't always tell the tale on legs. Shutter Island had a C+ and damn good legs. I got the B- from http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0 ... topstories: Quote: Whether they'll keep going depends on what you mean by "they." CinemaScore's instant poll of audiences leaving the theater was divided pretty starkly by age. Parse the movie's mildly positive B-plus rating, and you find that the under-25s awarded it an A-minus, the 25-and-overs a B-minus — which on CinemaScore's generous bell curve is nearly a failing grade.
Hopefully they reported it wrong and you are right that it's only B and not B-, I want this movie to be successful as possible for the sake of the quality of future movies to be greenlit by movie studios. Shutter Island's legs is actually worse than Fight Club's legs, so I already thought its legs will be better than Fight Club's, but I don't think it will reach the 4.0-5.8x legs some are expecting.
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Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:53 pm |
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32625 Location: the last free city
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Libs wrote: I'm predicting a 42% drop. I don't like joining stupid box office clubs, though. lol Woman!  this is the best club created this week.
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Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:05 pm |
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Libs
Sbil
Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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Alex Y. wrote: redfirebird2008 wrote: Alex Y. wrote: The Cinemascore for Inception should be very alarming. Even though under-25 awards it an A-, the over-25 gave it a B-, which points to horrible legs from that demographic.<snip> Your statement about a B- isn't quite correct. What I saw is the over 50 demographic gave it a B-. Over 25 gave it a B. Newsflash: The Prestige had a B overall and a 3.5 something multiplier. CinemaScore doesn't always tell the tale on legs. Shutter Island had a C+ and damn good legs. I got the B- from http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0 ... topstories: Quote: Whether they'll keep going depends on what you mean by "they." CinemaScore's instant poll of audiences leaving the theater was divided pretty starkly by age. Parse the movie's mildly positive B-plus rating, and you find that the under-25s awarded it an A-minus, the 25-and-overs a B-minus — which on CinemaScore's generous bell curve is nearly a failing grade.
Hopefully they reported it wrong and you are right that it's only B and not B-, I want this movie to be successful as possible for the sake of the quality of future movies to be greenlit by movie studios. Shutter Island's legs is actually worse than Fight Club's legs, so I already thought its legs will be better than Fight Club's, but I don't think it will reach the 4.0-5.8x legs some are expecting. The stats I read were "A" for under 25, "B" for 25-50, and "B-" for those 50 and older.
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska
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sub 10% drop fo sho.
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mdana
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Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:07 pm Posts: 3004
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Libs wrote: Alex Y. wrote: redfirebird2008 wrote: Alex Y. wrote: The Cinemascore for Inception should be very alarming. Even though under-25 awards it an A-, the over-25 gave it a B-, which points to horrible legs from that demographic.<snip> Your statement about a B- isn't quite correct. What I saw is the over 50 demographic gave it a B-. Over 25 gave it a B. Newsflash: The Prestige had a B overall and a 3.5 something multiplier. CinemaScore doesn't always tell the tale on legs. Shutter Island had a C+ and damn good legs. I got the B- from http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0 ... topstories: Quote: Whether they'll keep going depends on what you mean by "they." CinemaScore's instant poll of audiences leaving the theater was divided pretty starkly by age. Parse the movie's mildly positive B-plus rating, and you find that the under-25s awarded it an A-minus, the 25-and-overs a B-minus — which on CinemaScore's generous bell curve is nearly a failing grade.
Hopefully they reported it wrong and you are right that it's only B and not B-, I want this movie to be successful as possible for the sake of the quality of future movies to be greenlit by movie studios. Shutter Island's legs is actually worse than Fight Club's legs, so I already thought its legs will be better than Fight Club's, but I don't think it will reach the 4.0-5.8x legs some are expecting. The stats I read were "A" for under 25, "B" for 25-50, and "B-" for those 50 and older. Quote: Younger audiences seemed to love the movie's plot, praised by some critics as complex and criticized by others as confusing, as well as its novel visual tricks, but older adults were more mixed. Moviegoers under 25 gave "Inception" an average grade of A, according to market research firm CinemaScore; those over 25 gave it a B and the over-50 crowd gave it a B-. http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/ne ... 0800.storyI thought the LA Times guy sucked, and now Corliss can't even get a simple grade right. I guess no one has an editor anymore. I am not absolutely positive Corliss is wrong, but I don't see how it got a B+ if the over 25 gave it B-.
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Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:23 pm |
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska
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Grade = BS, Inception is top 10 of all time material
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Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:25 pm |
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mdana
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Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:07 pm Posts: 3004
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BJ wrote: sub 10% drop fo sho. the pussification of the once mighty Roar of BJ continues. 
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Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:28 pm |
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BJ
Killing With Kindness
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:57 pm Posts: 25035 Location: Anchorage,Alaska
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mdana wrote: BJ wrote: sub 10% drop fo sho. the pussification of the once mighty Roar of BJ continues.  lol, perhaps I should predict an increase like I did for avatar 
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Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:30 pm |
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mdana
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BJ wrote: Grade = BS, Inception is top 10 of all time material Much better. They have certainly lost their luster with the legs of films like Iron Man2, Karate Kid and others this year. I would like to know more about them, but the media reporters never give much info. I guess they don't bother to ask or are afraid to ask the studios. It is almost impossible to compare movie A with B or C. One week they give female demo, or over 50, or under 12 etc. Then it seems like the grades even for the same movie never match the age group, like with Inception. F'em I am just relying on yahoo, IMDB, Flixter, and my imaginary internet friend 'Gertie...Uh..Perhaps I need to get off the internet and step away from the Oreos and Mountain Dew.
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Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:35 pm |
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Libs
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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I personally have been of the belief that CinemaScore doesn't really matter unless the score is REALLY good or REALLY bad.
Like, in recent memory, The Blind Side got an A+ and The Box got an F. And their legs both absolutely indicated both of those.
A B+ grade seems like a wash to me, it's not indicative of anything.
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Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:39 pm |
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mdana
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BJ wrote: mdana wrote: BJ wrote: sub 10% drop fo sho. the pussification of the once mighty Roar of BJ continues.  lol, perhaps I should predict an increase like I did for avatar  If you do I will go under thirty and make Magnus eat Libs shit....
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Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:41 pm |
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mdana
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Magception wrote: mdana wrote: F'em I am just relying on yahoo, IMDB, Flixter, and my imaginary internet friend 'Gertie...Uh..Perhaps I need to get off the internet and step away from the Oreos and Mountain Dew. This is easily the greatest post you have ever writen. Oh, sorry I posted that before I read you posted the last one. Err... thanks  I was just kidding about the shit, but not about 'Gertie. I wonder if I can adopt her, what are the legal ramifications in the U.S. for adopting an imaginary friend... I wonder 
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Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:45 pm |
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22210 Location: Places
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Magception wrote: If Inception increases on its 2nd weekend, I will eat everyone's shit. All of this shit eating talk is grossing XL out. If Inception increases next Friday, we're all getting fucked up and fucking with BKB while hes at work 
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Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:51 pm |
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32625 Location: the last free city
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There will be NO shit eating next week. 
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Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:27 pm |
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Dr. Lecter
You must have big rats
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:28 pm Posts: 92093 Location: Bonn, Germany
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Rev wrote: There will be NO shit eating next week.  Well thank God at least for that 
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TrekFan1
Angels & Demons
Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:23 am Posts: 287 Location: Virginia
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Rev wrote: TrekFan1 wrote: In. I'll say a 41% drop, due mainly to Salt. ftr, though, I reserve the right to bail from this club if daily grosses point to a larger 2nd weekend.  You're either in or out. No pussy bailing. I bailed a few days ago, lol! OUT
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Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:44 am |
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32625 Location: the last free city
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Magception wrote: This club is doomed. 
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Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:42 am |
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Excel
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Rev wrote: Magception wrote: This club is doomed.  
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Thatguy
Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince
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With Inception's Thursday number, I would agree, this club is most likely finished.
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Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:18 pm |
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TrekFan1
Angels & Demons
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With an estimated $14.4m on Friday, it's looking like Inception will be dropping 25% or less this weekend. Good thing I bailed from this club... though now it seems to be a club for an under 40% drop rather than an over 40% drop club as it originally was.
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