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The Cinemascore for Inception should be very alarming. Even though under-25 awards it an A-, the over-25 gave it a B-, which points to horrible legs from that demographic. I feel like the WOM and appeal for this movie is really demographic-dependent, with males in my age group and younger almost all loving the movie and will see it multiple times, but for other demographics it's another A.I./Vanilla Sky (bad).

As people who participate in online movie forums and do lots of reading/writing, we are the film's main target audience. This movie also appeals to our circle of friends as they most likely share common interests and possess a similar intellect level. But other groups of people will not like this type of movie will tell their similar-minded friends how confusing and non-enjoyable it is.

Because the older demographics are usually the ones that help the legs of the film, I don't see superb legs for this movie. The legs won't be as bad as Fight Club's, but now having seen the movie, I do not believe it will be able to crossover to enough demographics for a -40% 2nd weekend drop.


Your statement about a B- isn't quite correct. What I saw is the over 50 demographic gave it a B-. Over 25 gave it a B. Newsflash: The Prestige had a B overall and a 3.5 something multiplier. CinemaScore doesn't always tell the tale on legs. Shutter Island had a C+ and damn good legs.


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It's happening :P Get used to it

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Why am I not included. You are very lazy and growing old for this :P


I'm working, not lazy. :P

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But it'll drop under 35% on its later weekends if it drops 35% next weekend.

That's not always true.

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Do a sub-35%. :)


that ain't happening, Xia :P the best it will do is -40%

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Rev wrote:
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It's happening :P Get used to it

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Why am I not included. You are very lazy and growing old for this :P


I'm working, not lazy. :P


Ha ha just saw you added me. :thumbsup:


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Alex Y. wrote:
The Cinemascore for Inception should be very alarming. Even though under-25 awards it an A-, the over-25 gave it a B-, which points to horrible legs from that demographic.<snip>


Your statement about a B- isn't quite correct. What I saw is the over 50 demographic gave it a B-. Over 25 gave it a B. Newsflash: The Prestige had a B overall and a 3.5 something multiplier. CinemaScore doesn't always tell the tale on legs. Shutter Island had a C+ and damn good legs.


I got the B- from http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0 ... topstories:

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Whether they'll keep going depends on what you mean by "they." CinemaScore's instant poll of audiences leaving the theater was divided pretty starkly by age. Parse the movie's mildly positive B-plus rating, and you find that the under-25s awarded it an A-minus, the 25-and-overs a B-minus — which on CinemaScore's generous bell curve is nearly a failing grade.


Hopefully they reported it wrong and you are right that it's only B and not B-, I want this movie to be successful as possible for the sake of the quality of future movies to be greenlit by movie studios. Shutter Island's legs is actually worse than Fight Club's legs, so I already thought its legs will be better than Fight Club's, but I don't think it will reach the 4.0-5.8x legs some are expecting.


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I'm predicting a 42% drop. I don't like joining stupid box office clubs, though. lol


Woman! :P this is the best club created this week.

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Alex Y. wrote:
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Alex Y. wrote:
The Cinemascore for Inception should be very alarming. Even though under-25 awards it an A-, the over-25 gave it a B-, which points to horrible legs from that demographic.<snip>


Your statement about a B- isn't quite correct. What I saw is the over 50 demographic gave it a B-. Over 25 gave it a B. Newsflash: The Prestige had a B overall and a 3.5 something multiplier. CinemaScore doesn't always tell the tale on legs. Shutter Island had a C+ and damn good legs.


I got the B- from http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0 ... topstories:

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Whether they'll keep going depends on what you mean by "they." CinemaScore's instant poll of audiences leaving the theater was divided pretty starkly by age. Parse the movie's mildly positive B-plus rating, and you find that the under-25s awarded it an A-minus, the 25-and-overs a B-minus — which on CinemaScore's generous bell curve is nearly a failing grade.


Hopefully they reported it wrong and you are right that it's only B and not B-, I want this movie to be successful as possible for the sake of the quality of future movies to be greenlit by movie studios. Shutter Island's legs is actually worse than Fight Club's legs, so I already thought its legs will be better than Fight Club's, but I don't think it will reach the 4.0-5.8x legs some are expecting.


The stats I read were "A" for under 25, "B" for 25-50, and "B-" for those 50 and older.


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sub 10% drop fo sho.

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Libs wrote:
Alex Y. wrote:
redfirebird2008 wrote:
Alex Y. wrote:
The Cinemascore for Inception should be very alarming. Even though under-25 awards it an A-, the over-25 gave it a B-, which points to horrible legs from that demographic.<snip>


Your statement about a B- isn't quite correct. What I saw is the over 50 demographic gave it a B-. Over 25 gave it a B. Newsflash: The Prestige had a B overall and a 3.5 something multiplier. CinemaScore doesn't always tell the tale on legs. Shutter Island had a C+ and damn good legs.


I got the B- from http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0 ... topstories:

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Whether they'll keep going depends on what you mean by "they." CinemaScore's instant poll of audiences leaving the theater was divided pretty starkly by age. Parse the movie's mildly positive B-plus rating, and you find that the under-25s awarded it an A-minus, the 25-and-overs a B-minus — which on CinemaScore's generous bell curve is nearly a failing grade.


Hopefully they reported it wrong and you are right that it's only B and not B-, I want this movie to be successful as possible for the sake of the quality of future movies to be greenlit by movie studios. Shutter Island's legs is actually worse than Fight Club's legs, so I already thought its legs will be better than Fight Club's, but I don't think it will reach the 4.0-5.8x legs some are expecting.


The stats I read were "A" for under 25, "B" for 25-50, and "B-" for those 50 and older.


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Younger audiences seemed to love the movie's plot, praised by some critics as complex and criticized by others as confusing, as well as its novel visual tricks, but older adults were more mixed. Moviegoers under 25 gave "Inception" an average grade of A, according to market research firm CinemaScore; those over 25 gave it a B and the over-50 crowd gave it a B-.


http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/ne ... 0800.story

I thought the LA Times guy sucked, and now Corliss can't even get a simple grade right. I guess no one has an editor anymore. I am not absolutely positive Corliss is wrong, but I don't see how it got a B+ if the over 25 gave it B-.

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Grade = BS, Inception is top 10 of all time material

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sub 10% drop fo sho.
the pussification of the once mighty Roar of BJ continues.:P

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sub 10% drop fo sho.
the pussification of the once mighty Roar of BJ continues.:P

lol, perhaps I should predict an increase like I did for avatar :twisted:

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Grade = BS, Inception is top 10 of all time material



Much better. :thumbsup:

They have certainly lost their luster with the legs of films like Iron Man2, Karate Kid and others this year. I would like to know more about them, but the media reporters never give much info. I guess they don't bother to ask or are afraid to ask the studios. It is almost impossible to compare movie A with B or C. One week they give female demo, or over 50, or under 12 etc. Then it seems like the grades even for the same movie never match the age group, like with Inception.

F'em I am just relying on yahoo, IMDB, Flixter, and my imaginary internet friend 'Gertie...Uh..Perhaps I need to get off the internet and step away from the Oreos and Mountain Dew.

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I personally have been of the belief that CinemaScore doesn't really matter unless the score is REALLY good or REALLY bad.

Like, in recent memory, The Blind Side got an A+ and The Box got an F. And their legs both absolutely indicated both of those.

A B+ grade seems like a wash to me, it's not indicative of anything.


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BJ wrote:
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sub 10% drop fo sho.
the pussification of the once mighty Roar of BJ continues.:P

lol, perhaps I should predict an increase like I did for avatar :twisted:


If you do I will go under thirty and make Magnus eat Libs shit....

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F'em I am just relying on yahoo, IMDB, Flixter, and my imaginary internet friend 'Gertie...Uh..Perhaps I need to get off the internet and step away from the Oreos and Mountain Dew.


This is easily the greatest post you have ever writen.


Oh, sorry I posted that before I read you posted the last one. Err... thanks :oops: I was just kidding about the shit, but not about 'Gertie. I wonder if I can adopt her, what are the legal ramifications in the U.S. for adopting an imaginary friend... I wonder :-k

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If Inception increases on its 2nd weekend, I will eat everyone's shit.


All of this shit eating talk is grossing XL out. If Inception increases next Friday, we're all getting fucked up and fucking with BKB while hes at work :thumbsup:

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There will be NO shit eating next week. :P

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There will be NO shit eating next week. :P


Well thank God at least for that :wacko:

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In. I'll say a 41% drop, due mainly to Salt.

ftr, though, I reserve the right to bail from this club if daily grosses point to a larger 2nd weekend. ;)


You're either in or out. No pussy bailing.


I bailed a few days ago, lol!

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This club is doomed.

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This club is doomed.

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With Inception's Thursday number, I would agree, this club is most likely finished.

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With an estimated $14.4m on Friday, it's looking like Inception will be dropping 25% or less this weekend. Good thing I bailed from this club... though now it seems to be a club for an under 40% drop rather than an over 40% drop club as it originally was.


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