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Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
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Archie Gates wrote: zennier wrote: The "scene" we all keep talking about. I'm with loyal - the scene isn't continuous and they cleaned off the blood around 3:54. Great editing, if so. The cinematography and direction rocks.
<embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/T61ufvuu5_Y" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed> Well crafted scene but looks very inspired by video games. With some movies you might think "I feel like I've seen this before," with this one I feel like I've played it before.
Reminds me of war footage from Bosnia.
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A. G.
Draughty
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:23 am Posts: 13347
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Funny you should say that, it reminded me of a movie I saw about the search for a missing photojournalist in Bosnia called Harrison's Flowers. Not a bad movie by the way, not a great one but has a lot of talent in it.
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Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:09 am |
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xiayun
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:41 pm Posts: 25109 Location: San Mateo, CA
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I plan on seeing it this weekend.
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Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:06 am |
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Renton
Iron Man
Joined: Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:15 pm Posts: 622
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This (semi-)realistic view of the future is amazingly directed by Alfonso Cuaron. It is an exciting, emotionally compelling and visually engaging movie with fine performances. I won't give this an A, but an A-, just because I feel something was missing.
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Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:46 am |
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A. G.
Draughty
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:23 am Posts: 13347
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Yep I've played Call of Duty, that was the one I had in mind.
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Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:23 pm |
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Joker's Thug #3
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Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 2:36 am Posts: 11130 Location: Waiting for the Dark Knight to kick my ass
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Well, im officially on the Children of Men bandwagon.
What an f'in film. Im sooo glad I didnt give in and just watch it on my computer, it truely deserves to be seen on the big screen, just breathtaking. Really, Cuaron doesnt just deserve to be nominated, he deserves a win. If it wasnt for his incredible directing skills and the amazing cinematography, the not so fleshed out storyline would've probably been an issue. After leaving the theater, I really didnt feel it was much of a problem though, I mean these days you get overly long films that have too much detail to them and leave nothing to the imagination, here we get a film that just sucks us in to this time and place and never lets go. One of the most unique and enriching experiences i've gotten from a film.
If Kubrick was here today, he would stand up and applaud.
Grade - A
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Neostorm
All Star Poster
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 2:48 pm Posts: 4684 Location: Toronto
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I need closure and feel like I got none (or i'm too stupid to understand it).
This movie had the cache effect on me. B+ until right before the ending. C+ as a result of the ending. I'm going to try to read all these posts to see if maybe i missed something, or if closure wasn't the end all and be all.
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:14 am |
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xiayun
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:41 pm Posts: 25109 Location: San Mateo, CA
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One of the best of the year? You bet.
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 4:36 am |
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Neostorm
All Star Poster
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 2:48 pm Posts: 4684 Location: Toronto
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A quick question that I had after watching the movie was why did animals not become infertile? Did I miss the reason as to why humans became infertile or did no one know??
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:21 pm |
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Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
Joined: Mon May 01, 2006 9:53 am Posts: 13403
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Neostorm wrote: A quick question that I had after watching the movie was why did animals not become infertile? Did I miss the reason as to why humans became infertile or did no one know??
Because there not human. Genetic difference's. Otherwise you could easily expect people to get myxomatosis. No they don't give any definative reason why.
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:28 pm |
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A. G.
Draughty
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:23 am Posts: 13347
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Any expansion packs scheduled yet for this film?
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 12:36 pm |
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21863 Location: Walking around somewhere
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Good movie, the black Hawk Down style action war of it really was interesting for me. All the leads were very good. One of the best of the year easily. Though I dont think Clive, while I love him, to stretch his acting that much, so I dont think he'll win anything, but the film could be a contender.
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:11 pm |
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Bradley Witherberry
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Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:13 pm Posts: 15197 Location: Planet Xatar
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I Am Jack's... wrote: If I had to guess why,
1. Pollution. 2. The Gaia Hypothesis. (?!?) 3. Some sort of evolutionary fuckup (though that wouldn't explain the miscarriages). 4. Extraterrestrial Intervention.
Increased background cosmic radiation levels...
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:18 pm |
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Snrub
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:14 pm Posts: 8767 Location: Great Living Standards
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xiayun wrote: One of the best of the year? You bet.
That's it? That's the review I've been waiting on the edge of my seat for?
For shame...
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:42 pm |
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xiayun
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Snrub wrote: xiayun wrote: One of the best of the year? You bet. That's it? That's the review I've been waiting on the edge of my seat for? For shame...
 I'm still debating on the grade and where it ranks on my top 10 list, so I'll have some more thoughts later.
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:44 pm |
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Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
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I Am Jack's... wrote: bradley witherberry wrote: I Am Jack's... wrote: If I had to guess why,
1. Pollution. 2. The Gaia Hypothesis. (?!?) 3. Some sort of evolutionary fuckup (though that wouldn't explain the miscarriages). 4. Extraterrestrial Intervention. Increased background cosmic radiation levels... It's a fairly interesting concept. Earth as an organism with will and conscience. Maybe she woke up one day and decided to purge herself of the one thing causing the most harm. Humans. War and AIDS and natural disasters weren't working.
who let Final Fantasy in here? 
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:51 pm |
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xiayun
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I Am Jack's... wrote: A-, eh?
Yep, ahead of Dreamgirls, but don't think it will pass U93.
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 10:45 pm |
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Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
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I Am Jack's... wrote: xiayun wrote: I Am Jack's... wrote: A-, eh? Yep, ahead of Dreamgirls, but don't think it will pass U93. I'll take that. Your A pushes CoM closer to the best reviewed film ever at KJ.
It has to be the best at this stage. Seriously whats got better raves? LMS maybe.
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:17 pm |
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Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
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I Am Jack's... wrote: Gullimont-Kyro wrote: I Am Jack's... wrote: xiayun wrote: I Am Jack's... wrote: A-, eh? Yep, ahead of Dreamgirls, but don't think it will pass U93. I'll take that. Your A pushes CoM closer to the best reviewed film ever at KJ. It has to be the best at this stage. Seriously whats got better raves? LMS maybe. Raiders? Jaws? T2?
Not on a scale this big. Yes they would have if they were released now but most people on the site only review and grade recent movies. I think i'd be accurate if i said this has been KJ's best reviewed movie in the release span since KJ started
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:21 pm |
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Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
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Only 2 days till its DVD release. I hope for some kick ass extra's
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:23 pm |
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Gulli
Jordan Mugen-Honda
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I Am Jack's... wrote: Gullimont-Kyro wrote: Only 2 days till its DVD release. I hope for some kick ass extra's but the cover art 
Hmmm Yes Clive could use some Gilette quick, and how the whole thing looks like a bad photoshop composite job. (Love the way their always to lazy to print seperate copies for Ireland and England hence the duel ratings)
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Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:35 pm |
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zennier
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lmao @ art work.
yikes?!
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Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:52 am |
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BacktotheFuture
I'm Batman
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:53 pm Posts: 5554 Location: Long Island
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The most intense and emotional film I've seen of this year. Everything and everyone involved in the film was fantastic. #1 of 2006? I gotta give it a night to rest on.
-A (+?)
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Eagle
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Joined: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:09 pm Posts: 14631 Location: Pittsburgh
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Wow, hard to put thoughts into words when it comes to this film, but let me try.
This movie strikes me as a film that has a multitude of intentionally vague religious themes mixed in with very overt, yet ambiguous, political themes. Neither theme, religious or political, is explored in depth, rather it is left to the viewer to make their own assumptions. In this regard, the film is extremely thematically diverse, but I feel far to many people are misinterpreting it as a philosophically deep film, which it is not.
Children of Men does not have any impactful deeper meaning, and it never tries to. At it's center, the film takes a sci-fi world and uses it to create an intensely humanized film, a film that focuses on the fragile, unprotected elements of life, coupled with what a loss of any and all hope can do to a civilization. To do the theme an injustice: what happens when there is no Tomorrow?
Every major character and a vast majority of minor characters gives up their own life toward the salvation of mankind. It's powerful. It's intense. It's Real. It all goes back to the religious themes and the suffering that some must endure for the salvation of many. The real beauty of the film is that it's able to draw us into a world which is so far fetched. It does so through elements of our own every day life: terrorism, war, corrupt government, etc.
However, the film is not without it's problems. Watching the soldiers all lay down their arms in utter awe, cease fire and part like the red sea, only to seconds later act as if they never saw the baby the moment shots are fired from the Fish ... it was a bit much. None of the soldiers were compelled to protect the child? In such a government controlled state, no one thought to even watch where the only baby born in 18 years wandered off to? Heck, no one even thought enough to tell a superior not to bomb the living crap out of the place where the youngest living human was. For a civilization which has painted this baby as a god, the scene just didn't make sense.
That said, the concept of the salvation of mankind being born in a world of complete chaos, violence and war was filmed to perfection. As mentioned by others, the cinematography is amazing and the action and war scenes are top notch. The continuous scenes are unlike anything I have ever seen and the motorcycle attack scene was as intense as they come.
It would have been nice to know a little more about the world outside of England than we are shown, but that's generally unimportant in the giant scheme of this film.
When Apocalypto came out I said it came very close to being a masterpiece, but was never able to make the leap because Gibson never achieved the larger theme he was aiming for. Children of Men is absolutely outstanding, but I have a hard time calling any film a masterpiece when it doesn't aspire to some deeper theme. As I said above, this film has a giant multitude of themes in play, but it literally refuses to give any depth to any of them. This was a choice that was made. The only theme in this film which was explored in any depth is what happens when a civilization loses all hope.
The difference between this film and Apocalypto is that it never fails to reach a theme it attempts to convey. Children of Men earned what it set out to earn, and sprinkled so much more into the eyes of viewers.
It isn't an A+ film. But it is a solid A and the best film of the year, barely nudging out The Departed.
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Eagle
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I should note that Children of Men and The Departed are so close in grade for me that they will undoubtedly flip back and forth on my top 10. Two outstanding films in the same year, I consider myself blessed!
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