Theres only a few big actors that would work and not turn people off for the role of Joker, Depp would be one of the only ones. Other then that you go with a very unknown actor, those are the two best ways to go i'd say.

what else is may 08 gonna have thats will be huge? ij4 isnt gonna make it n if it does, that wont be like star wars prequels anyways. narnia 2 maybe, but you could put 2 weeks in between them then. may 08 looks a lot like may 05. one film will claim memorial day and one film will claim the weekend before it.

if i count inflation it should go between 300m and 345m

i think the opening with 2008 inflation should be between 85m and 100m

I agree. But would Depp want the role?

This is best to open in June, I think. All the other Batman films have. It seems to be a good spot for it. This film could probably challenge Azkaban's June record when it opens.

If Johnny Depp does take the role of the Joker, I seriously think the next Batman will hit 300 million. The buzz would be as big as when Nicholson took the role of the Joker

71/215

anybody thinkk pirates huge opening day might be a sign of huge frontloaded to this too?

We don't even know how frontloaded Pirates is yet...

55 milion+ opening day=fontloaded. i think batman could leg ti 40 million opening day when a film like pirates gets 55. both were extremely well recieved in cinemas and on dvd n built up enormous fanbases from it.

No, that is bad logic. A $55 million opening day does not mean frontloadness by itself. A bad multiplier after it would mean frontloadness.

Yeah, Spider-Man's 114.8 and Shrek 2's 108m sure meant frontloadedness.

opened on a wednesday, then opned 2002

while w.vb. might be saddened by supes dissapointment, they have to jumpingout of their skin cause they know batman 2 is gonna do the same thing pirates 2 sis doing, albeit on a smaller scale. instead of a 200% increase over the original, maybe a 100-125%-thats still a whopping 97-110 million opening weekend.

The first one opened up to about 49 million over the weekend and an additional 24 million on Wednesday and Thursday for a grand total of 73 million over the first 5 days. The movie was extremely well loved and the hype is already starting to slowly build a couple years in advance. I see no reason why the sequel won't open up to 95 million at the worst. With some good casting and good marketing(which I highly doubt) this movie could have an amazing opening. Of course the total depends on the quality of the movie, but assuming the best I see:

105/280

LOL.

105 /280 isnt th best it could do. the best case scenario i see is like 110/ 340.
thats if hype completely explodes and its a better movie then the first. marketing wont matter that much for this. it will only need awareness to net 80 millionplus opening weekend.

am i the only one who thought superman was marketed greatly? it was everywhere and it looked sweet.

Yes.

Yeah

indeed.

they could have done a better job, but it is WB, sure they had it everywhere but they didnt do a good job building up any sort of hype.

I think that those two franchises, Matrix and Harry Potter, suceeded/have been succeeding in spite of WB marketing not because of it. I think the fanbases of those two films are just so great that even the worst marketing could not kill the movie. I've seen what WB did to Superman Returns, and I have truly become worried about Batman. I really hope that Batman can be like Matrix Reloaded and the Harry Potter movies and become a hit despite the WB marketing. I truly do wonder what could have been possible if this franchise were handed to the Fox marketing department. I think we could be debating about the possibilities of the film breaking 120 million and not 100 million.



It would have to be one hell of a film to gross 340 million. I'm not sure how crowded the summer of 2008 is, but if it's anything like the summers have been in previous years, getting a 3.0 multiplier would be a really difficult feat. The sequel has a lot to live upto, it will likely be compared heavily to the first Batman. Whoever plays the Joker, whether it be Johnny Depp or someone else, will have his performance heavily scrutinized and constantly compared to Nicholson.

Regardless of whatever WB did right it marketing Reloaded, they did a terrible job with Revolutions.

yeah. anyblody think well hear something at comic con?

No they didn't. I think they had an idea that they had no chance really with Revolutions, after the horrible wom and audience reaction to #2. Even if they had 100% perfect marketing, Revolutions was still going to free fall. I saw Matrix 2 opening weekend, and yet I still haven't seen #3, and have no desire to. Any marketing couldn't convince me otherwise. imo Marketing was not the issue that led to Revolutions doing 1/2 the business of the 2nd.

Yes Revolutions was always going to do worse than Reloaded due to audience reception of Reloaded - however when you look at it - Reloaded was certainly not a bad film. Infact I dont think it was really received any worse than POTC2 so the fact that WB just gave up on Revolutions is unforgivable. They could have got it up to $180-$220m with proper hype (something that Fox, BV or Sony would have done). Furthermore, WB made the mistep of releasing Revolutions 6 months later. I guess its easy to judge this move in hindsight but 1 year would have been a better option.

I still think Batman Continues will do big numbers. Look for something in the $260-$280m range.

A superman sequel can also do well. Perhaps in the $230-$250m region.

No question that WB struggles to market its films.

Not.

It's not like Revolutions did awful in it's first 5days, it did over 80m. That should've gave it over 150m right there, but it sinked because how awful reception was towards it. Putting another 100m in the marketing campaign wasnt gonna help much, just a waste of money.

If anyone thinks that people didnt know Revolutions was coming out and awareness was low, I gotta laugh at that. People just didnt care.