I never really posted in the BOM forum during summer 2003 but wasnt it like the same deal where there were 3 fanatical T3 posters who were insisting that T3 would make mid 200's and maybe even bypassing MR. I think I seen them argue with alot of posters, I think one of the guys name was Overlord

look in the mirror.

Lol! your just like excel when a ps3 talk is up.

It's a whole different planet when you walk into the Game forum, no holds barred cage fighting.

The T3 fans attacked me like a bunch of rabid dogs. Good thing me and Baumer were right about that earning right around 150m.

Baumer ALSO said hulk would egt 250 million.

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I'm not doubting that, but I don't recall predicting 260 mill. I was never one of the Hulk loonies like Mav and BKB.

Yes, that was one of my better calls. As was it yours.

In his defense, most people thought Hulk would make close to 300 million because he is a first tier superhero that hasnt been done on screen and really relied on the state of the art CGI of today to make him look real, it suffered mainly due to its first hour being too long drawn by others turning away both fans and kids away. I too thought it would of made 300 million until the screenings took place.Same deal with MAtrix Reloaded which I too thought would make 350 million and more. But then again at the time, I wasnt paying too much attention to the BO and was a newbie at it

im just saying with t3 it was more thatr he got lucky, not that he was more expireinced

Why is under 200 mil ridiculous Magnus? Obviously there's at least 21 users here who definitley don't think so, and I'd bet there's plenty more like Zingaling who would say that under 200 is at least possible. Batman Begins would've landed UNDER 150 if it was in the same position as where Superman will be, with big competition in a frontloaded summer and likely without miracle legs. Predict what you want, but saying that under 200 mil is childish and ridiculous is a purely false fanboy statement.

Under $200M is very much possible, but it's not more likely than over $200M. At least IMO.

I don't think there is such a thing as a Superman fanbase anymore.

The BOM forums are living proof.

Just when I want to leave I have to post again so as not to be stuck with that avatar.

Yeah BOM is the only current place where anything associated with comic books gets at least a 100 million dollar prediction even Ghost Rider, its also the only place where people laugh at you for predicting Transformers to gross under 200 million. Its like the place is trapped in a time warp. I know they will think that another He-man movie would make 200 million

shack, what is your opening day/opening weekend/opening 5 day/opening week predicts?

Considering the size of the fanbase for both X-MEN and SPIDERMAN with SPIDERMAN probably larger, that would make the suppose fanbase for SUPERMAN look tiny in comparison which doesn't bode well for the movie when you consider what both SPIDERMAN and X-MEN have grossed Domestically....

BKB

SHACK

what would take to make think this could get 250 million a the us boxofifce?

No, no, no.


Huh? If anything, I'd argue the marketing has been mediocore to poor Magnus. The reactions have the general audience have been bad, there hasn't been as much interest built up in the real world as there should be. You say everything but the trailers, but how you can you disregard the trailers? They're very important, and Superman hasn't exceeded in that category.


Pirates will take away any boost that would've gaven it, and more. It'll just drop harder.


Batman had the fanbase. Hulk had the fanbase. Superman doesn't really gain an advantage there. Interent fanboys? Like da torri said, that makes up about 1% of the gross.


What are you smoking? The last Superman movie was in 1987, which is like half a generation back. Even Superman 1 was in 1978, which is still about 1 full generation.


It still has the same situation Batman had, where it's coming off a bunch of crappily received sequels that put a bad taste in everyone's mouth. In a way, redefining the character might have been a good thing, because the last time a Superman movie came out people really didn't like it.


Once again, you're pulling dumb and false facts out of mid-air. Superman is definitley not bigger now than he was in the 70s, it's not even close. Superman owned the 70s, just like Batman owning the 80s, and Spider-Man and X-Men owning the present.


Do you honestly believe miniscule things like that will help it's gross any? The Death of Superman thing was over 10 years ago. People don't care, and don't remember it. Lois and Clark was a joke, it pushed him into ridicoule more than anything else. Smallville is a crappy WB soap, the viewers are much to small to have any effect on pop-culture, the show isn't exactly a household name.

Anyways Magnus, once again, calling Superman a lock for 200 mil is a really sinking down to a level that I know you're above. Ice Age 2 failed to have a 3 multiplier, X3 broke the Friday record, MI:3 opened with 47 mil. If this year has taught us anything, it's that the word lock is tossed around far too much. And this isn't even a hard situation when it comes to that, the movie is clearly not a lock for that. It's just not.

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You wanna know what I think? I think the buzz isn't any higher than what Batman Begins had, and it's guaranteed that it's legs will be about half as good. That's what I'm seeing out of Superman Returns right now.

I still think it will do between $200-240 mil

It won't have long legs... sure... maybe a 3 multiplier... but no more. It has HUGE competition. So, unless it opens with around $100 mil... then it has no shot at $300 mil

Trailers ARE important but they were not BAD and the tv spots are GREAT.Reactions are bad, then why is superman so friggin high on many public polls?

-pirates takes away advantage and itll drop harder? explainpirates cannot take away any money it makes on monday or tuesday. drop harder-it has more time build up good wom.

-superman gains A TON there cause he has a way bigger fanbase then batman did at this point last year. Hulk isnt even worth comparing. supermans fanbase is bigger right now then spidermans s was in march/april of 2002 and that is true and dont bother deneying because it maks no sense common sense tells supermans is the bigger character a month before their movie opened.

-first of all, 1987 is 19 years ago. thats 2 decades. second of all, none saw and nooneknows it exists. then yougo back to 1983-23 years ago and again nobody knows it exists. when a movie is 15 years old you hardly remember it, let alone a bomb like those 2. in 2012 will anybody be remembering batman & robin? you then go onto say the death of superman is 10 years ago n noone rembers it but they SOMEHOW REMEMBER SUPERMAN 3 n 4 BEING 19 AND 23 YEARS OLD???you made an aweful point that condradict what you say next. superman fanbase is one of kind and the only hero that could possibly rival it is spiderman. why? superman's fanbase is ALWAYS growing cause little kid like the character so easily. so yeah he does have a huge fanbase.

huh? this opens on a wednesday, itll easily geta multiplier over 3. 4 will be hard to get, but not 3.

I'm a Patient Man and I look forward to this blowing up in your face.. Just don't bail out of here like Raziel did when I proved KING KONG was gonna underperform..