superman returns predictons
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Excel
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as expected, the tv spots now say june 28th.
i was watching oceans eleven on cbs n at 10 47 the fifth spot aired and at the end it said "in theaters and imax june 29th".
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Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:47 pm |
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Eventine
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Still doubt it'll be enough to have a big OD. Friday will be bigger than its OD, I still think.
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it will if it is as good as people seem to be saying the novel is. but itll stil get 25 million opening day unless theres just not enough tv spots.
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Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:55 pm |
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Eventine
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OMG! 
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Sun Jun 04, 2006 10:59 pm |
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zingy
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excel wrote: it will if it is as good as people seem to be saying the novel is. but itll stil get 25 million opening day unless theres just not enough tv spots.
What does the opening day have anything to do with the quality?
WOM is not determined prior to the opening day, it's after.
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Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:04 pm |
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FILMO
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Killuminati510 wrote: Heh, funny stuff. http://www.dailynews.com/ci_3898117Quote: On a much lighter note, cast members Brandon Routh, Kevin Spacey and Kate Bosworth of the upcoming "Superman Returns" presented the award of "best hero" to Christian Bale, star of last year's hit "Batman Begins."
After thanking director Christopher Nolan "for getting rid of those bloody nipples" on the bat suit worn by George Clooney in Batman and Robin," Bale turned to Routh and said, "I'm sorry Superman, but Batman is the bada**."
Bale also paid tribute to his wife who he called "my personal Wonder Woman" then thanked the fans "for embracing the rebirth of Batman. There will be more!" Oh boy, Bosworth is doing the anorexic thing. 
I guess that pic should close the mouth of all who think Rough is to small and skinny. Bale was portrayed as Beast in Batman so I can easy see that you can Rough making look like a muscular strong Superman.
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Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:08 pm |
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Excel
Superfreak
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Zingaling wrote: excel wrote: it will if it is as good as people seem to be saying the novel is. but itll stil get 25 million opening day unless theres just not enough tv spots. What does the opening day have anything to do with the quality? WOM is not determined prior to the opening day, it's after.
no you got it backwards.
i said friday will bigger then wednesday if the word of mouth is good enough. as in the wom from wednesday n thursday will makes its friday bigger. its what happened with batman and kong.
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Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:35 pm |
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Eventine
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Kong's was more of school still being in session on its first two days. If by any chance SR gets bad WOM, I still think Friday will be bigger because that's the day most people know of.
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:15 am |
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Excel
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know of RIGHT NOW. thats gonna change.
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:17 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
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All you have to do now is photoshop Christopher Reeve's face where Routh is and your on to something..
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:54 am |
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STEVE ROGERS
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FILMOre McGilmore wrote: Killuminati510 wrote: Heh, funny stuff. http://www.dailynews.com/ci_3898117Quote: On a much lighter note, cast members Brandon Routh, Kevin Spacey and Kate Bosworth of the upcoming "Superman Returns" presented the award of "best hero" to Christian Bale, star of last year's hit "Batman Begins."
After thanking director Christopher Nolan "for getting rid of those bloody nipples" on the bat suit worn by George Clooney in Batman and Robin," Bale turned to Routh and said, "I'm sorry Superman, but Batman is the bada**."
Bale also paid tribute to his wife who he called "my personal Wonder Woman" then thanked the fans "for embracing the rebirth of Batman. There will be more!" Oh boy, Bosworth is doing the anorexic thing.  I guess that pic should close the mouth of all who think Rough is to small and skinny. Bale was portrayed as Beast in Batman so I can easy see that you can Rough making look like a muscular strong Superman.
Routh looks like a complete PUSS and in no way are you convincing me this guy even has what's called a PHYSIQUE.. He's tall but he's a beanpole..
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:57 am |
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Bradley Witherberry
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That photo's not increasing my confidence level...
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:34 am |
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Rev
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bradley witherberry wrote: That photo's not increasing my confidence level...
which one u talking about?
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:46 am |
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Excel
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Magnus101 wrote: Go to yahoo.com
Ad right in top right corner for Pepsi SR promo.
Here's the funny thing: On ad, it says June 28th. BUT when you click on it and you get the page, on the bottom it says June 30th.
Things will be intresting come OD. A low or high OD could mean anything. Low OD could mean that it may be a Shrek 2, or a high OD could show that maybe people did get the date change.
SUPERMAN SELLS OUT!!! YEAH!!!! Its great for BO. It ruins the icon of the charecter a bit, but its great for BO.
superman has always been a sellout in movies. watch superman 2's fight in metropolis. must of been 100 different product placements. superman returns is loaded with em too. huge tv screen saying EA GAMES, taxi cab logo for mountain dew, jimmy drinks budweiser, jason eats doritos.
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:52 am |
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Excel
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ill also note if that ad is there from now through release that is again a lot of exposure but id liketo see it in more places then just yahoo.
also tune into mtv on thursday to see a lil making of doc. bout superman returns. its airs in the preshow for the mtv movie awards.
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 1:53 am |
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Rev
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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/04/movies/04gros.html
Quote: LOIS LANE may be implausibly clueless. (Does Clark Kent really look that different without glasses?) And her spelling has never been worse. ("How many F's in 'catastrophe'?" she asks.) But in "Superman Returns" she has finally won a Pulitzer.
The director Bryan Singer suggests that his film, set for release by Warner Brothers on June 30, makes an even more startling tribute to the Man of Steel's longtime love interest. When asked over a recent dinner here to describe the action of "Superman Returns," he spoke from Lois Lane's point of view: "This is a movie about what happens when old boyfriends come back into your life."
As the movie begins, Mr. Singer explained, Clark returns from a mysterious absence to discover that Lois has a fiancé and a child. This creates what may be the film's central quandary. "Even if you're the strongest man in the world," Mr. Singer said, "if the woman you love has found someone else that she's nearly married to that's not a bad guy, how do you figure out what your place is in that woman's life?"
He added, "I call it my first chick flick."
Making Lois (as played by Kate Bosworth) the linchpin of the Superman franchise may sound radical, but the screenwriters Michael Dougherty and Dan Harris say that it's a natural next step in the hero's saga. "In the original comic Superman was the hypermasculine guy, but slowly the romantic aspect of the character became more prominent," Mr. Dougherty said in an interview here. "First he was a fighter, and then the lover got introduced. It wasn't one or the other, it was this mixture of both."
Mr. Dougherty said it was in Richard Donner's "Superman," released by Warner in 1978, that the character became "not just this alpha male, but he was sexualized, and romance really crystallized there." Later, the television series "Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman," which was broadcast on ABC in the mid-1990's, turned the romance into what Mr. Dougherty described as "full-on soap opera."
"And then they moved the soap opera to high school: 'Smallville' is absolutely the same thing, but younger," added Mr. Harris, referring to the WB series, which followed "Lois & Clark." "It opens with Clark Kent shirtless in a cornfield. Immediately you know they're going for the sexuality of Superman."
In "Superman Returns" the hero's sexuality is tempered by traditional values, the screenwriters said. The result is a kind of civilized masculinity, an acting challenge that falls to the previously little-known Brandon Routh. Although Lois Lane has a new boyfriend, Mr. Harris explained, she's still "the woman of Clark's dreams, and it's very difficult." He added: "He's put in the position where he's got to choose between being a good guy and being who he is, which would mean going beyond the borders of who he was. Which for the first time in a movie gives Superman something he can't overcome.
"It's like Kryptonite. It's like emotional Kryptonite."
Superman's growing preoccupation with romance does mark a career step of sorts for Mr. Singer, whose first three films told stories about men engaged in elaborate games of secrecy and disclosure  that much remains the same  but without a dominant love story.
In "Public Access," an independent film made in 1993, a mysterious young man named Whiley (coincidentally, he looked and sounded like Clark Kent) arrives in a small town and starts a provocative call-in TV talk show, inciting gossip and scandal. In "The Usual Suspects," which won Oscars for the actor Kevin Spacey and the writer Christopher McQuarrie in 1996, Mr. Singer depicts the police interrogation of a man who weeps: "I'm a cripple! I'm stupid!" and turns out to be one of cinema's wiliest criminals. Next, in "Apt Pupil," the director told the tale of a boy who sets out to learn about evil under the tutelage of an old Nazi, and finds more than he wanted.
In each film the weak turn out to be strong: appearances are never what they seem. And in the end each of these main characters demonstrates his strength and power his manhood, if you will  not by completing a quest for truth, but by demonstrating a facility with fiction. As the boy in "Apt Pupil" learns from his Nazi mentor, being honest "is a privilege of boys  a privilege that men must sometimes give up."
In his more recent movies, "X-Men" in 2000 and "X-2" in 2003, Mr. Singer has dabbled in affairs of the heart. Wolverine has his passion for the mutant Jean Grey, but he remains more committed to unlocking the secret of his own personal past; and Jean, not the vulnerable type, is probably best remembered for tricks like levitating an airplane telepathically. "I think that's a strong female character," said Mr. Singer.
Now 40, with a perfectly smooth brow and wide-set, pale blue eyes, Mr. Singer said the one common theme of his films is "the notion of identity." More than a few of his characters have multiple identities, something the director ties to his own background. "I'm adopted," he said. "So I've always drawn a parallel. I love my parents, they're my foundation, they're why I am the way I am. There's this other heritage that could be anything."
Mr. Singer described his characters as being "like onions, you peel back and they have different identities." He continued, "The stranger who comes to town ultimately has another darker side to him. The old man next door is a Nazi war criminal. The cripple in the police room is actually more than meets the eye. In 'X-Men' you've got a whole tribe of people trying to blend in with society but ultimately possessing these extraordinary powers. And in the case of Superman, he's a farm boy who discovers that he's the heir to a legacy of superheroes."
But Superman is also deeply in love with Lois, hence the 'chick flick' element that has Mr. Singer, apart from all the rollicking action beats, contemplating the Man of Steel from a woman's perspective. "He's virtuous, he doesn't lie, and he's handsome! And I think these are, these are idealistic qualities in the male that you, in someone that you'd want as a husband, I'd imagine."
Looking at his empty plate after consuming a pizza, Mr. Singer had a further thought about the nature of masculinity, super or otherwise. "If there's any virtue in it, it has a vulnerable side," he said. "Because without vulnerability one can tend to lack compassion. And without compassion one can tend to lack humanity. And these are some things a man should strive to have."
Then he groaned. "I sound like a politician."
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Oh boy, not what I wanna hear.
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DP07
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revolutions wrote: Looking at his empty plate after consuming a pizza, Mr. Singer had a further thought about the nature of masculinity, super or otherwise. "If there's any virtue in it, it has a vulnerable side," he said. "Because without vulnerability one can tend to lack compassion. And without compassion one can tend to lack humanity. And these are some things a man should strive to have."

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STEVE ROGERS
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DP07 wrote: revolutions wrote: Looking at his empty plate after consuming a pizza, Mr. Singer had a further thought about the nature of masculinity, super or otherwise. "If there's any virtue in it, it has a vulnerable side," he said. "Because without vulnerability one can tend to lack compassion. And without compassion one can tend to lack humanity. And these are some things a man should strive to have." 
So I suppose what I'm to gather from reading this is Singer made SUPERMAN a Homo, soft and sensitive, and that's the side were going to be seeing as a way for Singer to live out his fondest dreams..
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:33 am |
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FILMO
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Well is tht so much worse than Spiderman??
A whiny softass but who is in the same time so perfect....coo superpowers a not bad looking girlfriend and a good university career???? Ohh its Mr. Spiderman perfect.....
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:58 am |
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So my 47/163 is looking pretty good now. 
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 8:21 am |
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Dr. Lecter
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150 minutes chick flick with an emotional Man of Steel...
As if my anticipation could be any lower...
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:06 am |
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Erendis
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People are going to be so confused and torn between this new Superman's emotion and Superman's SFX that it will take them a week to sort it out. And then Jack Sparrow -- no confusion about who he is -- will mop up.
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:27 am |
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El Maskado
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DP07 wrote: revolutions wrote: Looking at his empty plate after consuming a pizza, Mr. Singer had a further thought about the nature of masculinity, super or otherwise. "If there's any virtue in it, it has a vulnerable side," he said. "Because without vulnerability one can tend to lack compassion. And without compassion one can tend to lack humanity. And these are some things a man should strive to have." 
Singer channeling yoda?
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:01 pm |
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El Maskado
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Dr. Lecter wrote: 150 minutes chick flick with an emotional Man of Steel...
As if my anticipation could be any lower...
"not even bullets can hurt Superman's eyes, but the love for Lois Lane will make his eyes cry" 
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Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:03 pm |
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