there is no response. its not like i can talk to them and ask why. look at their reasons. itll flop cause hes not big enough?

how the hell do you expect me to those seriously?

and eventine i know that, thats what i was saying. zing was one of the idiots cryiung 'under 200 million" but he wised up and said 215.

meanwhile, w.b. announces it needs 400 million worlwide, then its all profit.


this should be a very profitable film then, as itll make more overseas then u.s.

I see a 45%: 55% split between the domestic market and the overseas market, like the first movie did.

Yet you were using Roeper's word just because he said so without any reason. You realize how irrational that was

Not very many films aren't profitable...

irrational? richard roepers reason was he hasnt been on the screen in forever and that super heros are popular. thhats certainly more believeable then anything the 3 guys you found was.

yeah i know, but supermans got a great shot at 500 million ww with a decent shot at 600.

so 200 million in profit before toys/merchandise/dvd sales=superman sequel.

in other news, appearnetly superman returns figures are selling so well, toys r us has ordered all stores to put their displays in the very front of the store for all of june.

It will get a sequel unless it makes under $150 mil Domestic.

So... it's safe to say we're going to see a sequel

no, if it makes under 200 i dont think we will unless it gets 300 + overseas.

Roeper's prediction is not one I'd put my money on, whether he predicts $200 million or $300 million total.

Then again excels sources comes from a poster at BOM named KnightsofKrypton who seems to think everyone is trapped in the 80s.300 million for Transformers??HAHA yeah right and this coming from someone who loved the Transformers

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/forums/vie ... 0ce56da50b

transformer will be huge but not that huge.

that doesnt change the fact that he and others saw him say it.

Im a fan of the show and am interested in it. Even if the CGI looks really good it will only top out at 200 million but at least I hope it can hit 150 million. It really depends on how the CGI looks though so Im holding off on predictions

So you are hiking up your prediction because one movie critic hand selected by Ebert said so?...

i didnt say that.

At least David Poland predicts all the films of the summer. Personally, I don't think he's that great at predicting, but he actually attempts to analyze the film's potential like a normal predictor.

Roeper throws out a "Superman will be the biggest film of the summer!" and you take it too seriously.

i never used as anything more then it was.

i used it as as an example showing that predictors here are the mostly the only people seeing this dissapointing so badly n thats true.

Since he takes Roepers word for it,what if what if
Roeper gives Superman Returns thumbs down
Does it mean it sucks and that excel should take his word for it?

you guys...i didnt say that just bcause roeper said it means itll happen.

i said it to use as an example to show that your under predicting it....geez. how many times to have to say it? read my post. i said baumer cant talk shit he predicts this get 165 million. richard reoper knows more about movies then hm n he think itll be the biggest movie of the year.

I think baumer is way off as well, but then again, baumer predicts consistantly and gives a numerical figure, while Roeper simply announces what the biggest film of the summer will be.

And, baumer and you were both predicting $40+ million opening weekend for Poseidon until its release. So, can we say that you don't know anything either?

Exactly.

thats a totally different film. just because we had the same opinion on film doesnt mean it applys to the other.

You're comparing box office predicting talent between two people. This accounts for all predictions, not just one. Just because YOU think baumer's prediction is crap and Roeper's non-prediction is good doesn't mean that baumer sucks at predicting.

Don't be a hypocrite here, excel. My example applies just as well as yours did. If you can call baumer a bad predictor for his Superman prediction, I can say that you're equally as bad for your Poseidon prediction. But I don't. Because there have been times where baumer has been right and I've been wrong. I'm sure there has been or will be times where you're right and I'm wrong.

ight, your right.


well then fine. this time baumers WRONG-either way. even if im wrong and it doesnt get 250, theres NO WAY this one gets 165.

this film being one of the time.

youve gotta hand it to w.b.

compared to what most thought, which weas itd recieve aweful, batman begins type marketing, they seem to have fixed a big problem, which was lack of promo partners.


t seems w.b.s infitrated every fricking aspect with this films partners.





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