Oof. I sure hope not, as he's a complete non-starter. Fingers crossed Dems have a better strategy than going with the co-loser from last time

I think they ought to stop trying to hand pick a nominee and led their base get behind someone. Risky as we could get an Ivy League Gender Studies free Palestine type who is out of touch with the working class American who is likely to be feeling the most hurt by the Trump regime, but I worry that is exactly what is going to happen. I think Walz has potential if unleashed a little bit more, but I definitely think they ought to focus more on their economic policies more than their culture wars. They won the culture wars in the 2010s and then took it too far and forgot how to win without it.

Harris keeps leading polls but it's not going to be her cause it's too boring, so that support ending up with Walz nominee makes sense. It's definitely not going to be Newsom.

I am sure the Democrats high brass would like a Newsom/Shapiro ticket as it aligns with the Hybrid Old Guard Republican/Moderate Democrat Party they are aiming to be as a center right party, but I think that strategy won’t work even if it sorta appeals to me, it just isn’t exciting and frankly California is not the best state in the country to look to as setting an example for the future

Again simplistic. They didn’t win anything in the “culture wars”. If anything they completely and permanently lost them. Their future can only leave every traditional leftist cause secondary.

Yes, the Democrats need to realize the value of a primary, just put everyone in it and see who is the most popular.

I have been thinking about this a long time. Obviously a lot will change between now and then, but. Raphael Warnock should be the Dems nominee in 2028.

He checks literally very person and professional box. Dems also badly, badly, need a new face to move forward. Someone who young voters haven't defined, who can't be instantly dismissed as incompetent, who feels and is authentic. Yes, he checks the DEI boxes too. The "hails from a swing state" box. An insanely gifted speaker. Likeable, down to Earth, and warm, but also serious and strong He, frankly, has a similar "warm, real, decent, competent" vibe that everyone has always loved about Michelle Obama.

I think these next few years will be terrible for "Hollywood Liberal career Politicians" ala Kamala, Shapiro, Wes Moore, or worst of all, John Kerry Jr. Gavin Newsome. Tim Walz is not going to win a national election. Bernie is too old. Love Pete B but we all know what his issue will be with ignorant morons in moderate states. It is horrible to say, but they cannot run another woman ala Whitmer.

Warnock is really the guy. I don't know if my thoughts will change on this. I really, really hope he runs. Warnock running on Sanders-style messaging of "Rebuild the Government" with a christian religious thread interwoven could be a pretty epic.

A Warnock-Whitmer type of ticket would be very intriguing.

Whatever, nothing but opinions with no substantial relevance. You fail the requirements to even have a conversation. A waste of time when you’re too late, as essentially always. I’m done.

I wish there was no reason to be harsh, but this drama is no fun, and I’ll avoid it at every opportunity.

Hope he runs so we can get that senate seat!

You don’t want to try to have me treat you as I would a real adult of my own species. You’re permanently, definitively, and hopelessly incapable.

Warnock could get southern black voters which is what drove Hillary and Biden, but every primary needs the 1-2% of the vote guys that become recognizable debate characters to people that didn't know them before, and he seems like a good candidate to end up that in this or in the next one.

Fine, since you guys fail to comply. I’ll be honest.

There is nothing objectively good about any of your civilization’s or species’ irrational morality (it is all irrational). You have no right to claim it is good whatsoever, and you have no right to expect respect for it whatsoever. It is not only subjective and opinion, it is completely and totally wrong and fails the requirements for any serious issue. It has absolutely nothing whatsoever in common with any truthful morality. Your emotions, interests, humanity, and popularity that make you think it deserves respect or validation, are completely subjective opinion, that depend entirely on your perspective, interests, and fails in responsibility, and fails by any real or true standard of responsibility. I mean this about your entire morality, legacy, and all your heroes. Sure you have the alibi that you permanently lack the maturity, and I allow that because it’s accurate, but you have no future in which it will be sufficient, and in which it will not fail.

It’s extremely important that Newsom is not the Dem nominee, if they want to win

"Warnock running on Sanders-style messaging of "Rebuild the Government" with a christian religious thread interwoven could be a pretty epic."

Epic? Ha, okay. I mean, maybe it'd be "epic" to bible lovers and other Baptist pastors, sure, but not everyone gets a boner for Jesus, FYI, as America is less and less Christian as a whole with each passing year. It'd be nice to get a completely non-religious option for once, as I prefer my heads of state not have imaginary friends or rely on faith to make decisions concerning whole populations, but I'm aware that many/most others prefer that their politicians also believe in total nonsense.

I don't know about Warnock but I definitely can't see them nominating Andy Beshear who's vibe is "southern religious person". Just feels the wrong party.

He can win anyway simply because they lack other candidates who can.

Like Romney got the Republican nom in 2012.

He would lose against any Republican that isn’t in the freedom caucus

No. Your opinion is irrelevant.

He’s not anti-corporate, which matters far more than all the other nonsense you guys post in this forum section. Corporations will not oppose him, I will not oppose him, people like me will not oppose him.

I hate to break it to you (not really actually), but “Democracy” never was and never will be.

I think it best to avoid describing how pathetically immature you are by the standards of my species.

Also, all of Vance’s advantages over other democrats, don’t apply to Newsom. Musk can’t run; and the Republican Party lacks leaders who either were not marginalized by Trump, are leaders of their own rather than loyalists (they probably won’t even challenge Vance), or are, and have been, too afraid to challenge him (which won’t change if and when he doesn’t run again).

Vance would trap someone like Walz in a quagmire of social issues.

AOC running in 2028 looks pretty possible with her on the road with Bernie. But she would probably finish 2nd or 3rd.