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zwackerm
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Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21479 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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 May 19-21 Predictions
Fast X- 72m
Guardians- -55%
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Fri May 12, 2023 7:39 am |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68237 Location: Seattle, WA
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
I've no idea if people are anticipating the tenth installment in this franchise or not, but F9's $70,043,165 doesn't seem that high that Fast X couldn't just creep over it. Having said that, I feel a gloomy trend of franchise fare underwhelming is going to pull this one down too. I'm going with a $67 million opening.
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Fri May 12, 2023 8:02 am |
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Rev
Romosexual!
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32582 Location: the last free city
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
YES!
$150m
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Fri May 12, 2023 8:11 am |
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publicenemy#1
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 19374 Location: San Diego
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
I'm kind of feeling an underwhelming opening incoming. Then again the cast is so stacked maybe it'll match 9.
I'm gonna go with $61m.
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Fri May 12, 2023 9:21 am |
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Keyser Söze
Quality is a great business plan
Joined: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:21 pm Posts: 6717
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
I am seeing around 65m. Previews could up a bit from last one but internal multi will be underwhelming.
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Fri May 12, 2023 11:43 am |
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Jonathan
Begging Naked
Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:07 pm Posts: 14737 Location: The Present (Duh)
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
The fact that they didn't even try keeping a lid on the post-credits scene tells me Universal is concerned about this underperforming and wanted a publicity boost. I wonder if it'll help at all.
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Fri May 12, 2023 6:04 pm |
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O
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Joined: Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:53 pm Posts: 12193
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
Still think Fast can pull $70M+ here. It's 14 years and 6/6 since then with $70M+ openings aside from Hobbes and Shaw as a spinoff. $70M OW in June 2021 during Covid was a solid number so expect it to pick up. $60M or under would be very bad.
Random note, Gone In 60 Seconds came out the year before and did $100M+ almost as a pre-cursor to Furious. Surprised after Fast got so big they didn't try to reboot Seconds.
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Sat May 13, 2023 4:29 am |
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Keyser Söze
Quality is a great business plan
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
Pace is really anemic. One thing F9 had going for it was it was the 1st big movie to open once all seating restrictions were removed at CA/NY. Now its facing Guardians with uber strong WOM and schedule following FX is brutal. I think worst case scenario the OW could go as low as 50m !!! For now will reduce my expectations to 60m OW.
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Sun May 14, 2023 5:07 pm |
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MadGez
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Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2004 9:54 am Posts: 23261 Location: Melbourne Australia
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
Looks like $60-$75m at this point. Though I'm still expecting $68-$72m.
The last one was pretty bad, so it won't shock if this goes lower end.
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Sun May 14, 2023 10:27 pm |
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zwackerm
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Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21479 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
Is there any overseas tracking?
This film needs to gross as much as the 9th film just to break even, so even overseas might not make up the difference
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Sun May 14, 2023 11:35 pm |
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Shack
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Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40274
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
It’s kind of crazy a franchise made it to the 10th-11th instalment.
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Sun May 14, 2023 11:38 pm |
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zwackerm
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
I expect Guardians will still have a solid hold against Fast with a 40-45% drop, as I expect it’s weekdays will only be down about 35-40% from last week and that momentum will help to offset its loss of premium screens
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Mon May 15, 2023 7:26 am |
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Keyser Söze
Quality is a great business plan
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
zwackerm wrote: Is there any overseas tracking?
This film needs to gross as much as the 9th film just to break even, so even overseas might not make up the difference China seems well off last one which was half off F8. That said this movie does have good walkups. So let us wait until thursday to see how things go. Fast movies do well almost in every market. Still think absolute best case scenario for this domestic is matching last one.
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Mon May 15, 2023 10:22 am |
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Keyser Söze
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
At last presales are showing big boost. I am feeling good about this having higher previews than F9. Let us hope it persists and out opens the last one. I forgot F9 previews started at 7PM and this one at 2PM. So chances of it out opening F9 seem low. Deadline is also predicting 60m+ OW for FX. https://deadline.com/2023/05/fast-x-box ... 235368392/
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25205 Location: Classified
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
The last one's opening was depressed by covid. I've always assumed this one would get back to the $90-100M that they used to open in. Maybe people are just ready to move on though. There are many more exciting blockbusters on the horizon.
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Wed May 17, 2023 2:19 am |
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68237 Location: Seattle, WA
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
I feel COVID actually boosted the last one in that people were glad of a big blockbuster to go and see. Now it's the TENTH installment, what is there really to see from this franchise? Why must a potential admission see ASAP? I don't see a rush, and I believe if COVID never happened the ninth film would have also seen signs of fatigue.
This all said prior to it opening. I might change my theory if it comes out of the blocks like a bat out of hell, lol
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Wed May 17, 2023 5:57 am |
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O
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Joined: Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:53 pm Posts: 12193
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
This is a complete wildcard. Some of these reviews coming out make it seem like Momoa will be a like it or hate it type addition to the franchise.
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Wed May 17, 2023 1:20 pm |
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Keyser Söze
Quality is a great business plan
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
Early WOM from China/Korea seem quite positive. Let us see how things go domestic. Now I feel like this is going to finish ahead of F9 WW.
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Wed May 17, 2023 1:55 pm |
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Flava'd vs The World
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25205 Location: Classified
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
Algren wrote: I feel COVID actually boosted the last one in that people were glad of a big blockbuster to go and see. Now it's the TENTH installment, what is there really to see from this franchise? Why must a potential admission see ASAP? I don't see a rush, and I believe if COVID never happened the ninth film would have also seen signs of fatigue.
This all said prior to it opening. I might change my theory if it comes out of the blocks like a bat out of hell, lol It's actually the 11th. I say this everytime, but I'll never understand why Tokyo Drift counts but Hobbs and Shaw doesn't. 
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Wed May 17, 2023 2:27 pm |
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O
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
Knew Hollywood was overrun with franchises but even this summer is really something: -11th movie in a Fast franchise -10th movie in the Spider-man franchise -7th movie in the Transformers franchise (not counting the 80s cartoon version) -7th movie in the Ninja Turtles franchise (lots of different iterations) -7th Mission Impossible movie -5th movie in the IJ franchise Not counting a whole bunch of sequels coming out but 5 franchises with 7+ movies. Also not counting Directors / studio franchises like Nolan, Disney Animation, Pixar, MCU, DC, etc. To see 3 sequels was something at one time. With AI they can probably make Fast sequels to 2100 if Vin Diesel gives permission to use his likeness and voice. Fast 2100 is my favorite to win that year. 
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Wed May 17, 2023 3:23 pm |
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Flava'd vs The World
The Kramer
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25205 Location: Classified
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
59 on meta really isn't that bad all things considered. I thought that, whether the movie is good or bad, the critics would shred it just to make a point.
Maybe they're just worried about perception after blowing it with the low(ish) scores for Guardians?
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Wed May 17, 2023 4:37 pm |
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Shack
Devil's Advocate
Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40274
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
They could have been harder on 9 too.
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Wed May 17, 2023 9:37 pm |
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zwackerm
Hold the door!
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
Guardians hold will probably be about 10% worse than it’s Thursday to Thursday drop.
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Thu May 18, 2023 2:59 pm |
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Keyser Söze
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
Guardians has lost more than 1/4th of its shows and almost all of Imax/PLF. It will take a big hit today. It will recover over sat/sun. FX starting at 2PM hurts it even though FX itself does not seem that big. Every major publication seem to think its opening to just 60m or even a little bit lower. I want to see how walkups go today before going that low though its not crazy at all.
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Thu May 18, 2023 3:53 pm |
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Keyser Söze
Quality is a great business plan
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 Re: May 19-21 Predictions
Looks like previews wont be that far off from F9. But previews started 5 hours earlier and so I am expecting lower multi. Its going to be ugly for FX domestic though overseas numbers are still robust.
I hope its Rev's OW prediction as domestic total. :-)
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