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The Kramer
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 Re: Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" - July 21, 2023
Everyone else got this before Nope right? Though it was weirdly placed, after the amc logos and even Nicole Kidman. Took me a minute to figure out it wasn't part of the movie.  The countdown thing was cool though and it's a good way to sell the movie.
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KC
Team Kris
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2004 4:57 pm Posts: 1024
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 Re: Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" - July 21, 2023
Yes I saw this is front of Nope. Considering how horrible Nope was this was the highlight of the movie! Nolan strikes again, can't wait till next summer!
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22182 Location: Places
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 Re: Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" - July 21, 2023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bK6ldnjE3Y0I mean, this looks great, but I just cant see the mass appeal here.
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MadGez
Dont Mess with the Gez
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 Re: Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" - July 21, 2023
I think it's more a $80-$120m movie rather than one of Nolan's bigger films with mainstream appeal.
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Shack
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 Re: Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" - July 21, 2023
Damn he went all in on his boy Cillian. He probably could have gone Dicaprio/Damon/Bale if he wanted. But I think this was right choice.
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Keyser Söze
Quality is a great business plan
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 Re: Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" - July 21, 2023
check out the imax trailer. That is phenomenal. This one is rather tame. https://www.reddit.com/r/ChristopherNol ... x_trailer/
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Shack
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 Re: Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" - July 21, 2023
This movie is gonna make Magnus come back to predict it wins Best Picture Agree, easily the stronger trailer and I'm surprised they didn't use it as the regular one since it had Damon and Einstein "Near zero?"
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32580 Location: the last free city
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 Re: Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" - July 21, 2023
teaser trailer looks good  he's got another winner
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Algren
now we know
Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:31 pm Posts: 68230 Location: Seattle, WA
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 Re: Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" - July 21, 2023
I viewed the trailer on Universal Pictures' YouTube channel and on IMAX's YouTube channel, and I believe they're the same trailer. Anyway, it's a great trailer. I think it will be an incredible film, just not one that makes loads of money.
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Keyser Söze
Quality is a great business plan
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 Re: Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" - July 21, 2023
Algren wrote: I viewed the trailer on Universal Pictures' YouTube channel and on IMAX's YouTube channel, and I believe they're the same trailer. Anyway, it's a great trailer. I think it will be an incredible film, just not one that makes loads of money. I meant the trailer which was released only for Imax screens with Avatar. That is not released online(I posted link above). That had incredible tension and dialogue between Damon/Murphy is lit. Plus RDJ also makes it a great finish. Online trailer released had no damon/RDJ and was just about Murphy's character.
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Barrabás
llegó a la casa vía marítima
Joined: Sun Aug 05, 2007 4:53 pm Posts: 6317 Location: la gran casa de la esquina
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 Re: Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" - July 21, 2023
No one knows who Oppenheimer is, they should've called this 'Destroyer of Worlds' and made it more obvious (yes, even more obvious, audiences are dumb) it's about the atomic bomb. And Cillian Murphy is not a star/appealing lead. There's a reason he's always been a supporting player.
I don't see this doing much more than $30-$35M OW.
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22182 Location: Places
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 Re: Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" - July 21, 2023
"The Manhattan Project" would have worked as a title too. The Imax trailer creates more urgency but...everyone knows the world doesn't explode. So...
Murphy looks perfectly cast which will help with quality, but I think this movie would have benefited from a more buzz-worthy lead choice. Still thinking they shoulda cast Josh Hartnett as the lead ridden the wave of free press surrounding his return to major films.
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zwackerm
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 Re: Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" - July 21, 2023
I think it should at least out open Nope for the biggest non franchise opening post pandemic, if nothing in the first 6 months gets there first
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32580 Location: the last free city
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 Re: Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" - July 21, 2023
Barrabás wrote: No one knows who Oppenheimer is, they should've called this 'Destroyer of Worlds' and made it more obvious (yes, even more obvious, audiences are dumb) it's about the atomic bomb. And Cillian Murphy is not a star/appealing lead. There's a reason he's always been a supporting player.
I don't see this doing much more than $30-$35M OW. A CHRISTOPHER NOLAN FILM sells the movie. not the subject matter, not the actor. general audience knows by now that when it's his film...its a must see.
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Algren
now we know
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Even accounting for the pandemic, Tenet performed poorly, and it was partly because it was the first Nolan film to have no proper movie star lead performer. So I think other factors do matter.
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Keyser Söze
Quality is a great business plan
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Algren wrote: Even accounting for the pandemic, Tenet performed poorly, and it was partly because it was the first Nolan film to have no proper movie star lead performer. So I think other factors do matter. back then most big markets like new york and california had all theaters closed. % of theaters opened were too tiny. Nolan should have waited another year to release it for sure. It still wouldn't have been a blockbuster. But would have done more for sure. Nolan wanted to be a savior and instead sacrificed his movie :-(
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 Re: Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" - July 21, 2023
Tenet's $59M in the peak of the pandemic I think would have done $150M-175M in regular times.
$59M for the Croods probably would have been $200M as a regular Thanksgiving movie.
Wonder Woman 1984 despite bad reception I would think would hold at least 50% of its predecessor for a $200M gross in regular times so it's $46.8M.
Tenet still had interest due to Nolan but not enough for many to venture into a theater in the first 6 months of the pandemic (pre-vaccine). Some of the big blockbusters probably made 1/3 - 1/4 of what they would have made otherwise.
I thought it would be nice if Tenet somehow got a redo box office run. Do a double feature with his next movie in 2023 to help it's box office and see it on a big screen.
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zwackerm
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Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21473 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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 Re: Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" - July 21, 2023
Wonder Woman would have opened to like 175m sans pandemic so it would have easily cleared 300m, if not 350m even with mixed to negative reception
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Keyser Söze
Quality is a great business plan
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WB's decisions during pandemic to sacrifice their biggest blockbusters were easily the worst ever by any studio. Disney mostly sacrificed just their animation destroying Pixar/Disney Animation brand value at box office.
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I have to give WB credit at least for 2020 - pre summer 2021. They were the studio trying really to find a model that works during a time of uncertainty. They took most of the losses that the other studios learned from and iterated on. They were a lifeline for theaters though they had massive losses.
Specifically mentioning tentpoles rather than some of the B grade movies other studios released. Tenet, Wonderwoman 1984, The Little Things, Tom and Jerry, Godzilla vs Kong, Mortal Kombat were all essentially sacrified as tentpoles that would have made much more being delayed. WB cleared the path for every other studio to feel comfortable again to launch a tentpole.
WB May 2021 and on though was a disaster. Their whole strategy of streaming/theatrical was horrible since they had already pre-committed to it. Should have called it off but kept to it.
If WB didn't sacrifice so much of its film slate though pretty sure most of those theaters may have gone bankrupt or we would have seen a shrinking of the theater landscape which would be very hard to undo.
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Excel
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 Re: Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" - July 21, 2023
Looks good but it is so small in scale.
+ good to see talented former A lister Josh Hartnett briefly front and center early on.
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zwackerm
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 Re: Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" - July 21, 2023
I’d never even heard of Josh Hartnett till Excel became obsessed with him
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MadGez
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zwackerm wrote: I’d never even heard of Josh Hartnett till Excel became obsessed with him Around 2001 Hollywood was pushing him as the next big thing but he never really caught on. Seems like he’s getting some of the limelight of late.
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Algren
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 Re: Christopher Nolan's "Oppenheimer" - July 21, 2023
Yeah, and he was never an A-lister.
He's basically a good nostalgic choice for males of my generation. People that are fond of movies like The Faculty, Pearl Harbor, 30 Days of Night, Black Hawk Down, and Lucky Number Slevin. These people are probably the core audience for Oppenheimer, especially since it's Nolan directing it and not, say, Ron Howard or Terence Malick.
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Barrabás
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Excel wrote: Looks good but it is so small in scale.
+ good to see talented former A lister Josh Hartnett briefly front and center early on. This is what I think too, they're trying to package it as a summer event but it feels more like Imitation Game.
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