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Keyser Söze
Quality is a great business plan
Joined: Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:21 pm Posts: 6760
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 Re: Doctor Strange 2 vs The Batman
Spidey trailer broke endgame record. Let us see how DS trailer does. That will give some perspective on overall interest. 1st movie opened to 85m but he has been seen in Avenger movies and now NWH. So he is well known. But this does not have the hook that Spidey had with Tobey/Andrew returning.
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Tue Dec 21, 2021 4:48 pm |
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zwackerm
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Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21537 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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Trailer views will be hurt by being attached to the end of Spider Man
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Tue Dec 21, 2021 4:57 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36949
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zwackerm wrote: Trailer views will be hurt by being attached to the end of Spider Man Unless they have a different treat trailer.
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Tue Dec 21, 2021 7:27 pm |
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Flava'd vs The World
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:36 am Posts: 25327 Location: Classified
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This continues the story of No Way Home and Wandavision as well, the two hottest Marvel projects since Endgame. Should be able to double the original with all that is going in its favor. Batman might actually be a harder sell than anticipated. People are really turning against billionaires and its not like Bruce did anything to earn his money. There's gonna be a lot of political thinkpieces in early March.
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32603 Location: the last free city
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If I were Marvel Studios I'd put the cameo to an X-MEN in the trailer, assuming the leaks are true, cause that would definitely get people's attention and give it's OW a major bump up.
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zwackerm
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I feel like 175-180m OW for Dr. strange and 130’ for Batman.
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32603 Location: the last free city
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zwackerm wrote: I feel like 175-180m OW for Dr. strange and 130’ for Batman. Why only 130m?
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Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:51 am |
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zwackerm
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Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:26 pm Posts: 21537 Location: West Chester, Pennsylvania
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Rev wrote: zwackerm wrote: I feel like 175-180m OW for Dr. strange and 130’ for Batman. Why only 130m? Because it’s not a Dark Knight movie, and DC films have not done well lately based off of brand alone.
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publicenemy#1
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 19403 Location: San Diego
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Rev wrote: If I were Marvel Studios I'd put the cameo to an X-MEN in the trailer, assuming the leaks are true, cause that would definitely get people's attention and give it's OW a major bump up. I hope they would just save it for the movie tbh... it did wonders for Spider-Man. Or i guess show someone less prominent like how they showed the old villains
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Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:07 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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I don't the difference between the OW would be as big as zwackerm is predicting. I'd say $20m higher for DS and both ending with a much closer total in $300m-$350m range.
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Thegun
On autopilot for the summer
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:14 pm Posts: 21889 Location: Walking around somewhere
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130 million for The Batman would be incredible. I'm surprised there isn't a The Batman under The Joker club yet. I'm even tempted at a under Justice League or BB total club.
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Excel
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Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:32 pm |
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Keyser Söze
Quality is a great business plan
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Dr Strange trailer did just ok. I guess already shown with post credits of NWH skewed the data. I am expecting a SB spot for that movie.
Batman does not need any more trailers. Just do few tv spots during games and we are good to go.
Though I am way more excited for Batman than DS, from BO perspective MCU has the big edge. Especially with rumors around Fassbender and even Hugh Jackman having cameos in DS:MOM.
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Mon Dec 27, 2021 4:45 pm |
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Rev
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Excel wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u34gHaRiBIU Game over.  NO MAGIC SPELL WILL STOP THIS BAT TRAIN 
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Jack Sparrow
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Rev wrote: Excel wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u34gHaRiBIU Game over.  NO MAGIC SPELL WILL STOP THIS BAT TRAIN  No spells required!
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Shack
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Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 40470
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A lot of Catwoman. At least they didn't cast Emilia Clarke.
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publicenemy#1
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Wow. So this is gonna be the first really big movie of 2022. Should position itself to be huge.
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Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:48 pm |
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zwackerm
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publicenemy#1 wrote: Wow. So this is gonna be the first really big movie of 2022. Should position itself to be huge. That was already the case lol. Morbius might’ve done 125-150m if everything went right for it.
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Jack Sparrow
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Yeah Batman was always going to be the big movie of the season and in March. I still cannot see it breaking the March OW record though.
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Shack
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publicenemy#1 wrote: Wow. So this is gonna be the first really big movie of 2022. Should position itself to be huge. Good position for Uncharted as well
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zwackerm
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I am feeling this will do 200m OW now after that trailer.
The Batman is only tracking at 80m. That's obviously very conservative, but I don't see it breaking 150m OW at this point,
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Keyser Söze
Quality is a great business plan
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There is no way Dr Strange opens to 200m. There is not sufficient star power. Patrick Stewart coming back is no where close to Tobey and Andrew coming back for NWH.
That said Marvel has dedicated fan base and so this would be close for sure. Batman will surge close to release. That 80m was not from trades is just ridiculous. Its presales are way ahead of Black Widow(> 2.5x at AMC). I think lowest it opens is around 125m but I feel it will open around 150m at this point.
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zwackerm
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Keyser Söze wrote: There is no way Dr Strange opens to 200m. There is not sufficient star power. Patrick Stewart coming back is no where close to Tobey and Andrew coming back for NWH.
That said Marvel has dedicated fan base and so this would be close for sure. Batman will surge close to release. That 80m was not from trades is just ridiculous. Its presales are way ahead of Black Widow(> 2.5x at AMC). I think lowest it opens is around 125m but I feel it will open around 150m at this point. Civil War opened to 175m, this easily feels as big or bigger. Also, this will have far more cameos than just Patrick Stewart lol. Not to mention Wanda is Marvel's marquee female character at this point, and should drive a lot of interest among women.
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publicenemy#1
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 12:25 am Posts: 19403 Location: San Diego
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Keyser Söze wrote: There is no way Dr Strange opens to 200m. There is not sufficient star power. Patrick Stewart coming back is no where close to Tobey and Andrew coming back for NWH.
That said Marvel has dedicated fan base and so this would be close for sure. Batman will surge close to release. That 80m was not from trades is just ridiculous. Its presales are way ahead of Black Widow(> 2.5x at AMC). I think lowest it opens is around 125m but I feel it will open around 150m at this point. The hype around DS2 is gonna be huge and there will be a rush to see it given all the multiverse stuff that's going to happen. It won't open to NWH's # but hype is gonna be big. Of course Patrick Stewart isn't the only one coming back lol
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publicenemy#1
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Looks like Batman is getting a China release. Not confirmed yet but there's a promo clip of the cast saying it's getting a Chinese release and WB has been getting their blockbusters Chinese releases last year so... lol that it seems MCU will never get a Chinese release again.
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