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Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
zwackerm wrote:
So question. With an equally split senate, is there still a minority/majority, since Harris is technically only a tiebreaker, not an actual senator?
Yes there is. McConnell is a minority now and Chuck Schumer the majority leader.
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Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:20 pm
Jiffy
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Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
The screenshots of the Q people realizing they've been played would be funny if it all weren't so sad.
Wed Jan 20, 2021 2:22 pm
Corpse
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Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
Rev wrote:
zwackerm wrote:
So question. With an equally split senate, is there still a minority/majority, since Harris is technically only a tiebreaker, not an actual senator?
Yes there is. McConnell is a minority now and Chuck Schumer the majority leader.
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This is true, however there are certain rules that need to be agreed upon for the Senate to operate, such as equal members on committees and such given the 50/50 split. I don't know every single detail, mostly because they vary, but they mostly "share" powers.
What that means this time, given it's such a rare occurrence (only fourth time in history), depends on what Schumer and McConnell agree to. We'll know more in the coming days, but I'd look back at 2001 for a general outline. For example, in the cases of ties happening with committee votes (which can happen with "controversial" nominees for major appointments), McConnell could still have the power to bring the vote to the floor if they agree on similar rules as in 2001. And chances are the filibuster will remain in place for the "minority" party to utilize (at least for awhile), so expect a lot of this happening when you have "people" like Cruz and Hawley.
If the minority (Republicans) start to abuse the filibuster though, the Democrats can end it under the nuclear option which only requires a 51 majority (which they get with Harris as VP) versus the standard 60 vote majority. It's only been used twice, once by Reid and once by McConnell, but with how partisan things stand currently, we may see Schumer use it more often, and possibly action taken on the filibuster itself eventually. Biden has an established relationship with McConnell, so hopefully they begin to move away from being so divided.
However, the agenda, or Calling Up Business for the Senate, will be in the hands of Schumer and Senate Democrats, thus making them the effective majority party.
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Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:02 pm
zwackerm
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Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
Well, now the Democrat party has a chance to prove me wrong about them. Good luck!
Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:23 pm
Shack
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Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
Biden got in and the only people destroying things appear to be ANTIFA, if they make a big fuss about right wing violence instead of going after them it'll clearly be BS
Meanwhile, the Biden administration seeks to tighten the revolving door between the federal government and corporate interests. Biden signed an executive order yesterday banning his senior advisors from accepting lucrative bonuses from their former employers for joining his administration, and prohibiting former officials from shadow lobbying the White House and agencies. I hope this will become more than a gesture move.
President Joe Biden banned his senior advisers from accepting lucrative bonuses from their former employers for joining his administration in an effort to curb efforts by companies to influence the White House’s agenda.
Biden signed an executive order on Wednesday that also prohibits top administration appointees from lobbying senior White House staff for a time, usually two years, after they leave the government, an addition to the current ban against trying to influence former agency colleagues.
The restrictions will also apply to what’s known as “shadow lobbying,” in which former officials advise their new K Street colleagues how to influence the the government. Biden’s ban affects those who would plan outreach to their former agencies and the White House.
Biden’s order lays out lobbying restrictions that are more robust than the rules put in place by either President Barack Obama or President Donald Trump, signaling a tightening of the revolving door between government and corporate interests in Washington.
While Biden’s executive order may limit companies’ methods for shaping legislation and regulations in their favor, it’s unlikely to halt Washington’s powerful corporate influence machine altogether, government reform experts said.
“This goes a long way,” said Liz Hempowicz, director of public policy for the Project On Government Oversight, a watchdog group. “Moneyed interests will always find a way to exert their power.”
Wednesday’s order on lobbying is one of 17 executive actions Biden signed on his first half-day in office. His team has said it also plans to resume publicly releasing White House visitor logs, a practice Trump stopped when he entered office.
Advocates who spend at least 20% of their time representing clients’ interests to decision-makers are required to file a quarterly report disclosing their contacts under lobbying laws.
Biden’s new ethics policy elicited praise from good government groups who argued that the order improves upon on the rules set by the Obama administration by banning shadow lobbying and other ways companies covertly influence politics.
“This is exactly what we want to see,” Hempowicz said. “It’s unfortunate that the standards can change so significantly from administration to administration.”
In the final hours of his presidency, Trump revoked his administration’s ethics pledge banning political appointees from lobbying the agencies where they worked for five years after leaving the government. His original order had also banned former political appointees from lobbying work for a foreign government or political party.
The Obama administration barred appointees from communicating with employees of their former agencies for two years after leaving government. While Trump imposed a longer prohibition, his focus on “lobbying activities” left the door open for companies to influence the White House in other ways, critics said.
Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:32 pm
Jack Sparrow
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Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
Rev wrote:
Jack Sparrow wrote:
Grand Plan!! Here we come.
Has it come yet?
Yes and No
Thu Jan 21, 2021 6:48 pm
Shack
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Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
Jack Sparrow wrote:
Rev wrote:
Jack Sparrow wrote:
Grand Plan!! Here we come.
Has it come yet?
Yes and No
I stand by the evidence the election was stolen, but yes there was much less evidence that Trump must have had a plan, I underestimated that despite Trump clearly anticipating they were going to steal, there may have just been no way to stop it. My guess is he had very little allies in places like the FBI or military that would be needed to drain the whole swamp in a trap like this, and this would be exactly why the Democrats had no fear stealing the election. He made too many hires like Bill Barr as AG and Christopher Wray as FBI director that did nothing for him but help the establishment by stalling evidence. The military has troops who love him but leaders who hate him meaning they would possibly refuse any attempt he would make to use them, plus Trump is a constitutionalist who wouldn't want to cross a line that can't be undone. He either trusted too many people or his hands were tied, if he fired everyone and replaced them with MAGA early on, the rest of the GOP may have voted him out after Democrats found a reason to impeach, it may have been the price for miraculously making it through 4 years when everyone there hated him. Pence was likely forced onto him for the same reason, the GOP could have voted for him not to be the nominee before 2016 election if they wanted to. Ultimately the swamp being too much for one man to drain was somewhat predictable in retrospect and I may have bought into the myth too much that he could do it. Trump overall went ultra aggressive at them, the media and big tech from day 1 instead of mixing in some ass kissing, leading to them beating the shit out of him back for four years and eventually winning.
Funny enough videos that appear on my feed are overwhelmingly positive in the like to dislike ratio, but if I search Joe Biden then the top videos are far more evenly divided or lean dislike...hmmm....HMMM
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Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
Shack wrote:
I stand by the evidence the election was stolen, but yes there was much less evidence that Trump must have had a plan, I underestimated that despite Trump clearly anticipating they were going to steal, there may have just been no way to stop it. My guess is he had very little allies in places like the FBI or military that would be needed to drain the whole swamp in a trap like this, and this would be exactly why the Democrats had no fear stealing the election. He made too many hires like Bill Barr as AG and Christopher Wray as FBI director that did nothing for him but help the establishment by stalling evidence. The military has troops who love him but leaders who hate him meaning they would possibly refuse any attempt he would make to use them, plus Trump is a constitutionalist who wouldn't want to cross a line that can't be undone. He either trusted too many people or his hands were tied, if he fired everyone and replaced them with MAGA early on, the rest of the GOP may have voted him out after Democrats found a reason to impeach, it may have been the price for miraculously making it through 4 years when everyone there hated him. Pence was likely forced onto him for the same reason, the GOP could have voted for him not to be the nominee before 2016 election if they wanted to. Ultimately the swamp being too much for one man to drain was somewhat predictable in retrospect and I may have bought into the myth too much that he could do it. Trump overall went ultra aggressive at them, the media and big tech from day 1 instead of mixing in some ass kissing, leading to them beating the shit out of him back for four years and eventually winning.
You'll never be able to walk back the ridiculous and delusional things you said in the last two and a half months.
you know Trump's in his Florida bunker mad as hell at that report.
I’m sure just like with the election results he won’t believe this nor will a majority of those who voted for them. These are people who only believe in news that they like rather than what is true.
The executive order concerning transgenders in sports is ridiculously unfair.
Why do you care?
Because biological men and biological women cannot have a fair sports competition.
True, but what executive order?
If you're referring to the one in this article below, it doesn't just straight forwardly allow for any biological males to compete in female sports. The executive order, really is more about highlighting a consideration to prevent discrimination against transgenders in general as opposed to giving them a free pass to exploit a physical advantage. So I'd say, don't jump to conclusions based on some source-less tweets.
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