The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
The Biden era: The Establishment Strikes Back
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Shack
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 Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
Just look at these insurrectionists
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Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:08 pm |
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Shack
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 Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
The Democrats trying to impeach Trump when there's 0 chance of actually removing him in time (and it doesn't sound like it's a real thing that the Senate completing the process after Jan 20th would disqualify him in 2024) is the dumbest thing. The MAGA base would NOT forget the last minute fuck you for no reason. If their strategy is to silence MAGA by criminalizing their rallies, taking away their guns, and kicking them off the internet, it will likely just make people angrier and achieve the opposite. Trump going out a week from now with nothing happening would mean he was soft on the left and let them walk all over him and get away with everything, but the next guy might not be as nice.
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Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:36 pm |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37162 Location: The Graveyard
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 Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
I didn't see anyone break into the Capitol Building, threatening the lives of the line of succession of this country, in that video. Just a bunch of rioters that should have been arrested, and a lot more police than were present last week.
McConnell is even welcoming the impeachment now, suggesting they likely have enough GOP Senators that will vote yes. This isn't just a Democrats drive, you know. Today, Trump didn't even accept responsibility or even denounce what happened last week. He reportedly called Pence a "pussy" today, the first time they've spoken in 5 days. He's gotta go, and be kept from running ever again. He's lost his mind.
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Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:24 pm |
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Libs
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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 Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
Honestly kind of surprised Shack wasn’t down at the Capitol himself. Mess.
One day you’re going to realize your ass got played by an unhinged sociopath narcissist who could give a single solitary shit about any of his supporters.
And then you’re going to have to take a look in the mirror and realize you let it happen to you.
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Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:38 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
KJ's Leading Idiot
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:15 pm Posts: 36949
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 Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
8 more days to go for the Grand Plan to be revealed.
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Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:40 pm |
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Shack
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Libs wrote: Honestly kind of surprised Shack wasn’t down at the Capitol himself. Mess.
One day you’re going to realize your ass got played by an unhinged sociopath narcissist who could give a single solitary shit about any of his supporters.
And then you’re going to have to take a look in the mirror and realize you let it happen to you. No matter what happens I couldn't be prouder to be on the right side of history on this one whether he wins or he loses, and has someone who has supported freedom and liberty for many years to be able to fight for the side of it vs people who are acting like totalitarians who's supporters believe everything their government and media tells them to at a scary level. If Biden wins the swamp was too deep to drain and the bad guys got away with it with having no line they wouldn't cross in terms of lying, cheating and abusing their way to victory. It's hard to win a knife fight when you're fighting back with bare hands. It is what it is.
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Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:50 pm |
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Jack Sparrow
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 Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
Shack I thought there is a master plan to be released in few days. What is this sound of resignation I hear in your post?
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:07 am |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37162 Location: The Graveyard
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I've said it before, but I understand where Shack comes from when he talks about supporting freedoms, wanting to make sure conservative viewpoints aren't washed away, etc. And to him, presumably based on many posts, and many others, Trump was the chosen one to follow though on this. But Trump just wasn't that guy. The Republican Party has failed to display any leadership for many years now, and Trump unfortunately filled that void and brought them all in with him.
There's obviously nothing wrong with conservatism, pushing back on corporate rule, protecting freedoms, and so on. There have just been far too many bad people (not bad for their views, but bad because they're bad) come out and completely run away with this, twist it, distort it, until, well, insurrection occurred. And during all this, the decent people have just been standing off to the side during most of it in fear of losing support among them. Until now, finally.
Liberals aren't immune from having bad people taking over their messaging, twisting and distorting it, for all the wrong reasons either. It just hasn't happened at such a rapid pace that it did within the GOP since there isn't a singular person promoting the negative messaging like Trump, which in turn causes more prominent voices to adopt it down the ladder until it reaches and catches on among the public.
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:22 am |
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Excel
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Joined: Sat Aug 20, 2005 12:54 am Posts: 22210 Location: Places
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McConnell backing impeachment is incredible and very real sign of impending doom for DT's presidency.
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:31 am |
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lilmac
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Joined: Wed May 25, 2005 12:07 am Posts: 3225
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Shack wrote: Libs wrote: Honestly kind of surprised Shack wasn’t down at the Capitol himself. Mess.
One day you’re going to realize your ass got played by an unhinged sociopath narcissist who could give a single solitary shit about any of his supporters.
And then you’re going to have to take a look in the mirror and realize you let it happen to you. No matter what happens I couldn't be prouder to be on the right side of history on this one whether he wins or he loses, and has someone who has supported freedom and liberty for many years to be able to fight for the side of it vs people who are acting like totalitarians who's supporters believe everything their government and media tells them to at a scary level. If Biden wins the swamp was too deep to drain and the bad guys got away with it with having no line they wouldn't cross in terms of lying, cheating and abusing their way to victory. It's hard to win a knife fight when you're fighting back with bare hands. It is what it is. Amen brother. It is what it is. You win some, you lose some. We will bounce back. It will be interesting to see how big tech treats conservative forums on social media, whether we will see them tamping down on the gray areas frequented by right-wingers.
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:07 am |
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Shack
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 Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
Jack Sparrow wrote: Shack I thought there is a master plan to be released in few days. What is this sound of resignation I hear in your post? My spirits dropped after he used the words Biden administration today, the last week I thought there was something to the way him, Pompeo, Melania, etc. never seemed to acknowledge it was Biden who was the next administration, maybe intentionally leaving out information or playing games with their statements that would allow for knowledge Trump would win. But nobody said every single word Trump had to say in a speech would be true anyways, and maybe you could stretch it by saying he was referring to the Biden administration that currently exists, they're just not inaugurated yet.
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:53 am |
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Jack Sparrow
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 Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
I just hope Biden does a good job and if he ascends you and other Trump supporters don't blindly disagree with every move for the next few years cause that's not a healthy way to spend your time.
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:49 am |
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Rev
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Joined: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:06 am Posts: 32628 Location: the last free city
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Libs wrote: Honestly kind of surprised Shack wasn’t down at the Capitol himself. Mess.
One day you’re going to realize your ass got played by an unhinged sociopath narcissist who could give a single solitary shit about any of his supporters.
And then you’re going to have to take a look in the mirror and realize you let it happen to you. Shack and people like him are lost forever.  We just have to make sure they don't take the country with them.
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:11 am |
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Libs
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Joined: Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:38 pm Posts: 48678 Location: Arlington, VA
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Props to the 10 Republicans in the House who voted to impeach, the most ever in an impeachment from one's own party.
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:55 pm |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37162 Location: The Graveyard
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This whole thing is such a dark time for the country, though. A President impeached TWICE in two years. It's almost unbelievable that it's come to this. Just "almost" because of so many people that were involved in allowing this to happen, letting it build and build until the worst happened. National Guard units are literally camping out, sleeping on the floors, inside the Capitol Building. DC has more troops stationed there now than in Iraq and Afghanistan. More and more is coming out that is strongly suggesting last week's attack was planned, and potentially an inside job. Just insane images like this one:
_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:05 pm |
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Shack
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 Re: Democracy 2020 (President-elect Joseph R Biden Jr.)
 When you're trying to set up a Trump supporter false flag but you're used to making posters with communist colors and writing
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:31 pm |
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Corpse
Don't Dream It, Be It
Joined: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:45 pm Posts: 37162 Location: The Graveyard
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_________________Japan Box Office “Gods are great ... but the heart is greater. For it is from our hearts they come, and to our hearts they shall return.” “We were like gods at the dawning of the world, & our joy was so bright we could see nothing else but the other.” “There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.” “You have to pretend you get an endgame. You have to carry on like you will; otherwise, you can't carry on at all.” "Paper is dead without words / Ink idle without a poem / All the world dead without stories."
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Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:38 pm |
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stuffp
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I was thinking if the Dems and any anti-Trump aides knew that Trump and his supporters would be a danger to American institutions why didn't they arrange for better security at the Capitol last week. Could it be plausible that they were thinking 4-5 steps ahead, let the riot happen and goad Trump in putting himself in a hard to dispute position as an enemy of the state.
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:36 am |
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Jack Sparrow
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Absolutely! This is indeed a conspiracy from opposition party who would have gotten elected in 20 days. Plus the added bonus of a chance to get Mike Pence killed in accident.
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:19 am |
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Shack
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stuffp wrote: I was thinking if the Dems and any anti-Trump aides knew that Trump and his supporters would be a danger to American institutions why didn't they arrange for better security at the Capitol last week. Could it be plausible that they were thinking 4-5 steps ahead, let the riot happen and goad Trump in putting himself in a hard to dispute position as an enemy of the state. For those of us who believe Trump has been in control all along, you could take it to another level saying that he predicted them to do this, hence why he was the one that announced Jan 6th (he also possibly made his speech go long so the people there couldn't get to the capitol in time). Why put himself through getting called an insurrectionist? His twitter ban was worldwide news and many people have probably been redpilled due to it and opened their eyes to the dangers of big tech censorship and them making an alliance with their chosen political party. It has already had reverberations such as Uganda dumping Facebook and Twitter from their election, I'm sure other countries will do the same. If his goal is to both win and also take out his enemies in the media and big tech at the same time, this would be a valuable step for the latter. I believe the 25th amendment and 2nd impeachment instead of trying to work on covid stimulus makes the Democrats look bad more than it does Trump, and for people noticing the clear double standard between BLM riots and this event may also be a wake up call about their media being honest that also begins the wheels turning.
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:32 am |
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Shack
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Why 20 thousand soldiers in DC for a virtual inauguration?
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:17 pm |
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zwackerm
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So I am looking at the transcript of Trumps speech from last week, and unfortunately I cannot find where he tells his supporters to storm the Capitol. So I retract my statement calling him a traitor, though I think his rhetoric about the stolen election is obviously what triggered it, I don’t think he can be outright blamed, and impeachment is ridiculous.
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:34 pm |
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Alex Y.
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zwackerm wrote: So I am looking at the transcript of Trumps speech from last week, and unfortunately I cannot find where he tells his supporters to storm the Capitol. So I retract my statement calling him a traitor, though I think his rhetoric about the stolen election is obviously what triggered it, I don’t think he can be outright blamed, and impeachment is ridiculous. At end of the speech is when he first mentions about marching to the Capitol (and not suggesting any violence), by the time it takes to walk to the Capitol for that point, it had already gotten breached. Pretty much anyone inside the Capitol did not bother to attend his speech and were acting outside Trump’s direction. Quote: So we’re going to, we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, I love Pennsylvania Avenue, and we’re going to the Capitol and we’re going to try and give… The Democrats are hopeless. They’re never voting for anything, not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones, because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. Donald Trump: (01:13:19) So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I want to thank you all. God bless you and God bless America. Thank you all for being here, this is incredible. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Hoepfully, the next Antifa riots (eg that is still happening all the time in Portland), Democrats will denounce their violence and not consider them true BLM supporters, just like Trump has denounced anybody who acted violently as not true Trump supporters.
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:37 pm |
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Libs
Sbil
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stuffp wrote: I was thinking if the Dems and any anti-Trump aides knew that Trump and his supporters would be a danger to American institutions why didn't they arrange for better security at the Capitol last week. Could it be plausible that they were thinking 4-5 steps ahead, let the riot happen and goad Trump in putting himself in a hard to dispute position as an enemy of the state. For fuck's sake, dude. Alex Y. wrote: At end of the speech is when he first mentions about marching to the Capitol (and not suggesting any violence), by the time it takes to walk to the Capitol for that point, it had already gotten breached. Pretty much anyone inside the Capitol did not bother to attend his speech and were acting outside Trump’s direction. This is a flat out lie and you know it.
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Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:26 pm |
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Rev
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Libs wrote: stuffp wrote: I was thinking if the Dems and any anti-Trump aides knew that Trump and his supporters would be a danger to American institutions why didn't they arrange for better security at the Capitol last week. Could it be plausible that they were thinking 4-5 steps ahead, let the riot happen and goad Trump in putting himself in a hard to dispute position as an enemy of the state. For fuck's sake, dude. Alex Y. wrote: At end of the speech is when he first mentions about marching to the Capitol (and not suggesting any violence), by the time it takes to walk to the Capitol for that point, it had already gotten breached. Pretty much anyone inside the Capitol did not bother to attend his speech and were acting outside Trump’s direction. This is a flat out lie and you know it.
When you spend years believing all of his bullshits you get Trump America
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