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zwackerm
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 Are there any "villains" in the history of cinema?
Are there any famous cases of directors, producers, actors, etc. who have tried to ruin films? I was just thinking of this because Jeffrey Katzenberg is portrayed in every featurette from the Disney company as money hungry, greedy, only caring about the bottom line, and ruining the visions of other creative voices in the company like Menken, Ashman, Stephen Schwartz, Musker, Clements, and so on, until he went off and started the rival company Dreamworks.
Are there any "villains" in the history of film?
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Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:46 pm |
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Algren
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 Re: Are there any "villains" in the history of cinema?
Well, the studio system was one big villain against creativity.
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Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:02 am |
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Darth Indiana Bond
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 Re: Are there any "villains" in the history of cinema?
Isn't it the other way around with Kratzenberg?
Also, Algren, "was"?
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Fri Dec 02, 2016 4:33 am |
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Algren
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 Re: Are there any "villains" in the history of cinema?
Darth Indiana Bond wrote: Also, Algren, "was"? Haha. Good point, but it was worse back then, right? I mean, they basically just regurgitated the same twelve stories. Producers would take the script off the stack, get it filmed, then put it at the bottom. But sure, today's studio system is also not as creative as, say, indie cinema is, but it's still surely a lot more creative than back in the 40s.
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thompsoncory
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Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:13 am Posts: 14628 Location: LA / NYC
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 Re: Are there any "villains" in the history of cinema?
They don't necessarily ruin films but Harvey Weinstein and Scott Rudin are considered two of the most notorious assholes in the entire business these days. For the record, Scott Rudin is an incredible producer. But he's apparently a tyrant and incredibly hard to work for. The movie Swimming With Sharks is loosely based on him.
As for Harvey, there was a period where he was known as "Harvey Scissorhands" because of how much he would butcher films to his liking in the editing room.
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Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:56 am |
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Thegun
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Alan Smithee
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David
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 Re: Are there any "villains" in the history of cinema?
Though a celebrated director, Otto Preminger was widely considered cruel and tyrannical.
MGM executive/"fixer" Eddie Mannix may fit the bill. He helped the studio's stars avoid charges and scandals, hiding, say, Spencer Tracy's relationship with an underage girl. And a popular conspiracy theory implicates him in the death of original Superman actor George Reeves.
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Shack
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Mel Gibson Chevy Chase
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Price
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Hitchcock for Hedren.
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David
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 Re: Are there any "villains" in the history of cinema?
Marlon Brando and Bernardo Bertolucci, it seems.
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