Obviously yes. Hence me saying I'm mad.

She's awful. She's a terrible person. And she literally has no clue what she's doing. She's playing 100% emotionally and is on the brink of breaking down every week. It's honestly the only reason people haven't gone after her. Because they're scared she's have a freak attack.

I could not possibly disagree more. She's a basket case, yes. But she's not a terrible person. Have you watched Big Brother before? Vanessa hasn't even been talking trash behind people's backs; this show has seen the scum of the earth before.

Second, the reason no one has gone after her is because she's GOOD AT THIS. She either had everyone snowed, or when her back was against the wall, won a competition or talked her way out of it. Saying she has "no clue what she's doing" is simply a lie.

I think Vanessa would exhaust me if I knew her in real life, but she has wiped the floor with these people strategically.

I mean, honestly. She talked Steve into throwing the veto to her. At F4. That's someone in control of their strategic game.

I dunno why you hate her so much.

ok libs. I don't know why you care that I hate her.

Every week someone says something along the lines of getting Vanessa out, and then she bullshits her bullshit to them, and they change their mind.

If she tried that shit with Derrick, she'd be out in a MINUTE. These people, while enjoyable, can't seem to remember anything beyond one fucking minute.

Yes, she's a great liar. And these people are all fucking idiots.

I don't really care, you're just so vitriolic in your hatred against her and I'm not understanding it at all.

Vanessa 100% deserves to win.

Because I can't stand her dumbfounded facial expressions. Her constant crying and playing the victim, not even in a "I'm pretending" way. She honestly thinks she's innocent in everything.

If there's something in the feeds that shows her not playing the victim and actually taking ownership of the crap she pulls, fine. But right now, she annoys the shit out of me.

Good lawd this is uncomfortable.

"youtuber is not biased at all while making video title"

I think Vanessa would be one of the most beloved and respected houseguests ever if she had even once said in Diary Room that her batshit crazy thing is all an act. But it's uncomfortable on an Audrey level to watch her at times because I think it's 100% legit. And that's scary to think how she's going to adjust when this is over, $500K or not. This level of emotional trainwreck over three months is not healthy.

That said, she deserves it over anyone else, hands down. Austin's biggest downfall was trusting her and not making the move first.

I will say that I don't know how much of her game is strategy. Unless she puts on an act for the Diary Room, a lot of it seems to be off-the-cuff, gut-instinct stuff. Not complaining, because she's there and so many aren't.

It's very indicative of who the production loves on the show when the three returning houseguests to host competitions are two of the most reviled and/or pathetic players from last year (Frankie and Beast Mode Cowboy). And of course the oft-recycled Jessie "Mr. Pectacular". Where were last year's true favorites, Donny and Nicole? Or Zack?

And of course the icing on the cake was the BrenchelBaby. They realize we're laughing AT them, right?

Steve is one of the worst, most disgusting, undeserving winners in the history of this show.

Vanessa was so, so robbed. That is all.

I'm actually outraged. Steve is maybe the most undeserving winner ever.

I mean, it would've been way more outrageous if he had beaten Vanessa head to head. He probably deserved to win over Liz, at least.

But Vanessa will go down in BB folklore with Danielle Reyes and Janelle as robbed female queens. Simply the truth.

Also, James winning America's Favorite was the best moment of the finale.

I'm so glad Vanessa lost.

She would've been a worse winner than Andy.

Also, just watching the finale now. Vanessa voting for Liz to win just shows how completely insane she is. She honestly had no clue. 100% off the cuff.

Yeah I have to agree. Vanessa played an all time best game at Janelle/Danielle level.

BUT, even Janelle could acknowledge still voting for who played a better game. Voting for Liz knowing that Vanessa pulled Liz along Austin pulled her along, etc. showed what an emotional game she played. If she took emotions outs, she should have kept "Meg/Jon" around knowing what would realistically lead to a stronger chance for her to win. Jon is random enough that he may have actually taken Vanessa to the finals over Steve who he might have seen as more likable to the jury.

Vanessa was so emotionally invested in this game but I am ok with Steve winning despite the fact he did very little for most of the game. He was JUST as emotional as Vanessa in some ways. The difference was over time he at least knew he needed to separate his emotions and game play (breaking up his own alliance, voting out Vanessa, not winning when he didn't have to), but Vanessa played hard the entire game to exhaustion and started to not be able to escape her own emotions.

Considering that for half the game, I LOATHED Steve, I'm not happy he won. But I'm glad his game came alive at some point. I honestly figured he would luck his way to the finals. As a superfan, he probably played the smartest game to get to the end.

Steve wasn't even on the show for half the game.

I will same one mystery I never got, what was up with Steve not liking Becky. Just never got that...