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Zingaling wrote:
The first one was actually pretty good. It came as a big surprise to me. Hell, even my dad (very anti-chick flick) liked it.


Well, Libs actually has good taste in chick flicks, so when she recommends one with force, I trust it's a good one. I loved What Women Want which she recommended last time. When she grades a romcom or chick flick anything below an A , I'd probably not like it very much, but she doesn't really waste her wrath on those. :bruised:

Plus...it's got Shatner in it, so it's got to be good for some laughs!


Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:21 pm
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Libs wrote:
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Stepford Wives had far more going for it then Miss Congeniality 2 though. For one, Congeniality has far more competition. Stepford Wives was the only movie that appealed to women in the market, especially with Raising Helen being lost in the shuffle. It opened in the summer and the huge cast and arguments gave it tons of free publicity. And that had 25% on RT, something I don't expect Congeniality to come near to (my older brother said it was worse then The Whole Ten Yards... ouch).


I'm not sure I think that argument makes a whole lot of sense. For one thing, how exactly did The Stepford Wives have more going for it? For one thing, it was plagued by production problems and the pre-release buzz was scathing. Miss Congeniality is the sequel to a movie that is beloved by a good number of people. Also, what is Miss Congeniality's competition, other than Guess Who (which, I would figure, will draw slightly more males than females)? Are you talking about Ice Princess or something? Because that will gross something like $4M this weekend and be a total non-factor.


It was plagued by many problems on the set, but I don't know if pre-release buzz was really widely known as being completely terrible, it seems like it was only people in the know rather then general audiences who were aware of that. So I think that instead the buzz around it helped, or at least didn't hurt. And though I was referring to Guess Who since they're both PG-13 comedies and Who will still have a sizable draw towards women, but The Ring Two will also effect it. Didn't that draw more to teenage girls then anything?

EDIT: Oh, and saying that a movie is being under-predicted only because it has large female appeal doesn't always mean it's really going to surprise us all. Last weekend's Ice Princess is evidence of this, as is any Jennifer Garner movie. \:D/


Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:55 pm
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MovieDude wrote:
Libs wrote:
MovieDude wrote:
Stepford Wives had far more going for it then Miss Congeniality 2 though. For one, Congeniality has far more competition. Stepford Wives was the only movie that appealed to women in the market, especially with Raising Helen being lost in the shuffle. It opened in the summer and the huge cast and arguments gave it tons of free publicity. And that had 25% on RT, something I don't expect Congeniality to come near to (my older brother said it was worse then The Whole Ten Yards... ouch).


I'm not sure I think that argument makes a whole lot of sense. For one thing, how exactly did The Stepford Wives have more going for it? For one thing, it was plagued by production problems and the pre-release buzz was scathing. Miss Congeniality is the sequel to a movie that is beloved by a good number of people. Also, what is Miss Congeniality's competition, other than Guess Who (which, I would figure, will draw slightly more males than females)? Are you talking about Ice Princess or something? Because that will gross something like $4M this weekend and be a total non-factor.


It was plagued by many problems on the set, but I don't know if pre-release buzz was really widely known as being completely terrible, it seems like it was only people in the know rather then general audiences who were aware of that. So I think that instead the buzz around it helped, or at least didn't hurt. And though I was referring to Guess Who since they're both PG-13 comedies and Who will still have a sizable draw towards women, but The Ring Two will also effect it. Didn't that draw more to teenage girls then anything?


The Ring Two looks like it may approach a 60% plunge this weekend, so I don't think that'd be much of a factor, either.


Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:57 pm
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Libs wrote:
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Libs wrote:
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Stepford Wives had far more going for it then Miss Congeniality 2 though. For one, Congeniality has far more competition. Stepford Wives was the only movie that appealed to women in the market, especially with Raising Helen being lost in the shuffle. It opened in the summer and the huge cast and arguments gave it tons of free publicity. And that had 25% on RT, something I don't expect Congeniality to come near to (my older brother said it was worse then The Whole Ten Yards... ouch).


I'm not sure I think that argument makes a whole lot of sense. For one thing, how exactly did The Stepford Wives have more going for it? For one thing, it was plagued by production problems and the pre-release buzz was scathing. Miss Congeniality is the sequel to a movie that is beloved by a good number of people. Also, what is Miss Congeniality's competition, other than Guess Who (which, I would figure, will draw slightly more males than females)? Are you talking about Ice Princess or something? Because that will gross something like $4M this weekend and be a total non-factor.


It was plagued by many problems on the set, but I don't know if pre-release buzz was really widely known as being completely terrible, it seems like it was only people in the know rather then general audiences who were aware of that. So I think that instead the buzz around it helped, or at least didn't hurt. And though I was referring to Guess Who since they're both PG-13 comedies and Who will still have a sizable draw towards women, but The Ring Two will also effect it. Didn't that draw more to teenage girls then anything?


The Ring Two looks like it may approach a 60% plunge this weekend, so I don't think that'd be much of a factor, either.


Well a 60% fall would still be 14 million. I guess it's drawing straws, but I do think that this has more competion then Wives, and not nearly as many stars as Wives. At this point though, I suppose we'll just see, us two can't debate much more about this movie then we already have. ;)


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"The sequel could double the original's opening four-day weekend take of $13 million..."

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/va/2005 ... 93600.html

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xiayun wrote:
"The sequel could double the original's opening four-day weekend take of $13 million..."

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/va/2005 ... 93600.html


"Industry insiders expect "Guess Who" to open in the $15 million range. It is set to open Friday in 3,147 theaters."


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Well now GUESS WHO and MISS CONGENIALITY 2 both have a chance at over $20,000,000 for the weekend.

Both bow on 3,100+ screens.

I think:

1. Miss Congeniality 2- $21,000,000
2. Guess Who- $20,300,000
3. The Ring Two- $14,000,000

I want all three of these movies to do well. I want GUESS WHO to be a hit because i love ashton. MC2 just looks hilarious, and the original rocked.

Although i think THE RING two will plunge over 55% :(


Thu Mar 24, 2005 8:35 am
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15.2/47.5


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Final predictions...

Opening: $15M
Total Gross: $42M


Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:18 am
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Zingaling wrote:
Final predictions...

Opening: $15M
Total Gross: $42M


Same here, if ya don't mind Zingy. :)


Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:19 am
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MovieDude wrote:
Zingaling wrote:
Final predictions...

Opening: $15M
Total Gross: $42M


Same here, if ya don't mind Zingy. :)


Nah, I don't mind. You were one of the early ones to say that this wouldn't do a $20M opening weekend anyways. :wink:


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