Thegun's Top 20 Sequels Never Made #4 and 3
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Thegun
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13. Phantasm 1999 ADThis could very well be the trashiest film on my list because let's face it, how many people on here, followed the Phantasm series, let alone in the world. I'll be honest every Halloween I try to watch new movies, and I always use to laugh when I'd see the Phantasm covers in stores. Not to mention the fact that they were never big hits and 3 and 4 were both DTV films. But I didn't hear terrible things about the series so I gave it a shot, and they are actually really fun films, and you can see a lot of inspiration from Don Coscarelli that made Bubba Ho Tep so enjoyable. Speaking of which Bubba Nosferatu should be another film on this list but now that Bruce Cambell wants nothing to do with it, neither do I. Anyway back on topic. Roger Avary (Co Writer of Resevoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction) was such a huge fan that he wrote a ridiculous sequel idea to bring the series back to theaters and be the fitting conclusion to the franchise. It also had Bruce Cambell possibly involved in a "Ash" type role to help the protagonists out. Trying to get funding secured, Coscarelli made Part IV on a very small budget, and it was still pretty entertaining. They just could never get the funding they needed to make another film. I can firmly say that while I don't necessarily care if I ever get another Halloween, Friday, or Nightmare on Elm Street or even Scream, I would welcome a final chapter. What's good about these films is the continuity and the ability to keep the entire cast over 20 years. It may very well be a B movie franchise, but so is Tremors and Evil Dead. Plus their sequels are usually better anyway as there is less studio interference with a B movie franchise.
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Thegun
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PS, sorry for the delay everyone. My sister gave Birth this weekend, so officially an Uncle! I got a little preoccupied. Will get to 11 today.
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Congrats!
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Thegun
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12. Unbreakable TrilogyOften talked about but Shyamalan and Willis often spoke of a supposed trilogy to their 2000 followup to the Sixth Sense. While still extremely successful at the time, it didn't exactly set the world on fire in the US after opening weekend. Though as time goes by, there are few people now that don't consider Unbreakable to be Shyamalan's best film to date. The further adventures of David would have been welcome, especially as his adventures as a superhero is just barely touched on in the final act of the film. Shyamalan may not always have the right instincts, but he nailed it here, and I would love to see a return to this darker take on superhero mythology. Bruce isn't old enough obviously so there still is a possibility, but I think the film itself would be another no brainer success for them critically and commercially.
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Thegun
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11. MadmartiganIf any George Lucas character ever deserved his own spinoff after Boba Fett, it was Madmartigan. The self proclaimed "greatest swordsman that ever lived" was brilliantly played by Val Kilmer and still remains my favorite of his performances. Very much so crafted in the vein of Han Solo, he's also one of the better anti heros always looking out for himself, but always coming through for others in the end. He's also hilarious and badass. Willow was not the huge hit director Ron Howard or Lucas hoped for (15 years too early as LOTR has proved) but there were always talks of a sequel going into the mid 90s, and as recent as a few years back when there were talks of a live action tv series. Even if he wasn't the focus again falling to Willow, the world itself and all the characters were so much fun, I always wanted more.
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Is Bubba Fett Boba Fett's cousin from Mississippi?
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Thegun
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Nashville actually, good catch
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Thegun
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To be honest, I completely forgot that this existed. I was starting to compile a new idea, when I looked and saw that this had not been completed. I still had the list and would like to apologize for not getting it done. It was during a rough time, and my posts became in frequent for a few weeks, and by that time the list was not a priority and thread was no longer the first page, so it just slipped my mind. Either way, things are chipper, I have the work, and the thread was getting a good response, so without further hesitation, here comes the top 10 sequels never made. 10. Superman Lives- By Tim BurtonConsidered almost fabled in how much time, and money was invested, hype around the project, and then all of a sudden being scrapped with more then 30 million dollars being spent already. Tim Burton's Superman Lives looked like it could have been a trainwreck or pure brilliance, but what is certain people would have checked it out. Granted, it's not a pure sequel to say, but it was not a reboot, rather a continuation of the character that had already been established. Kevin Smith wrote a very interesting script, and the Art above displays how the costume would have looked. Tim Burton got $5 million no matter what, and Nic Cage was cast as Superman. Nic Cage reportedly received $20 million guaranteed even after the project was scrapped. As for the story, it was kind of a Superman dream script, it involved Braniac, Doomsday, the eradicator, and most interestingly Michael Keaton reprising at least Bruce Wayne in the film. Then they threw out Smith's script, Producer Jon Peter's kept taking more and more control, including having kids sit in on set design meetings so they could get maximum use of toys (A tactic used on the still unreleased Batman and Robin) That movie flopped, the budget was slashed in half, Burton left to do Sleepy Hollow, and WB scrapped the entire project. It's hard to say whether this film would have been good or not. The thought of Cage as Superman still is rather interesting but considering he was without powers a lot of the film, it was an interesting idea. Still, I know know matter how weird it looked I would have definitely checked it out.
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Thegun
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9. Third Jack Ryan film starring Harrison Ford I won't even get started on how cool it would have been for Alec Baldwin to continue on in the role, but for all intensive purposes, I really loved Patriot Games, and Clear and Present Danger is one of my all time favorite films. Ford was Jack Ryan for me, and the franchise was just as popular as when it started. And of all things Ford's growing age actually played to his advantage as Ryan's future career went. And then, poof. Nothing. No whispers, Ford and director Phillip Noyce moved on. There were basically no mentions of there being another Jack Ryan film until around 2000. I've looked and looked, there is absolutely nothing about there even being a third film in development with them. By 2000 Ford at that point, was obviously trying to stay away from his established roles. Ben Affleck came around during as we know now the worst point in his career. And The Sum of All Fears sucked outside of Liev Schreiber and Freeman's smaller roles. It kind of made no sense to me. Phillip Noyce continued with two strong thrillers in the Saint and The Bone Collector, and Ford made one more great action film during the next 5 years. Granted the rest were comedies or different kind of thrillers, but it seemed like he was still open to smart action thrillers. Call it, they waited too long, but this should have been a priority. William DeFoe missed out on continuing one of his cooler roles as John Clark.
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Thegun
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Is that real though, doesn't seem consistent with the concept art. If I remember correctly they never even made the suit, he only went in for measurements. They did a good job though, is that the new costume or an old batman still they worked with?
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The Sum of All Fears didn't suck, and Ford would have done it the nuclear bomb didn't go off at the Super Bowl. When that wasn't removed, he walked.
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Thegun
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8. The Vega BrothersI was going to put Kill The Bride, but that still has the possibility of being made. The Vega brothers of course refers to Vic Vega from Reservoir Dogs and Vincent Vega from Pulp Fiction. While technically a prequel, the film still would have been the continuation of two beloved characters who both met their unfortunate early demises.. Vic Vega was originally suppose to appear in Pulp Fiction as the same character, but Travolta joined on instead and the two coolest brothers ever to appear on screen were created, but unfortunately not together. And that is what Tarantino had hinted at for a few year before he eventually returned to theaters with Kill Bill. During that time Tarantino often spoke of his WWII film as well. Of course as we all know that film became Inglorious Basterds, so while I'd never count it out, it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that this will never happen. Not to mention the actor's ages pretty much assure that. Still there's not one Tarantino fan that wouldn't have lined up for it.
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Thegun
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The Dark Shape wrote: The Sum of All Fears didn't suck, and Ford would have done it the nuclear bomb didn't go off at the Super Bowl. When that wasn't removed, he walked. I'll agree it's one of Affleck's better films, but it pales greatly in comparison to the first three.The film was very generic, I can't imagine the rewrites to make it a reboot were that much different. Even if the bomb was an issue. But where did you hear that? From what I read, he was completely looked over as too much time had past, and then when Sum of All Fears disappointed, they asked him again in 2004 and he considered for a brief time before turning it down in 06 and they eventually went for another reboot.
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Thegun
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7. More Trouble In Little China  Call it the fanboy's dream of two cult movie mashups. Both films surprisingly had great test screenings, seemed like they would be hits, and then both flopped miserably. Probably none of this is true, but I'm sure there were some discussions of at least stand alone sequels at some point. While both Big Trouble in Little China and The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai suggest further adventures of the main characters, there is no evidence of there ever being a mashup between the two films. The only real coincidence was the Director of Banzai rewrote some of Big Trouble in Little China. However, as years went on a lot of fans demanded not just sequels, but the fabled mashup as well. The collaboration most likely would have been a major mess, most likely. But if it meant at the very least another Carpenter/Russell collaboration with one of my favorite characters of all time, it would have loved it.
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Are these movies that you would have wanted? or movies that were actually planned?
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Thegun
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Most had planning stages at some point, rumors, development hell, but never happened, or in some cases the original failed and plans were eventually scrapped.
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I never though Vincent Vega was cool, I thought of him more as a parody of cool.
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Vega is cool. He's just retro cool.
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Thegun wrote: [But where did you hear that? From what I read, he was completely looked over as too much time had past, and then when Sum of All Fears disappointed, they asked him again in 2004 and he considered for a brief time before turning it down in 06 and they eventually went for another reboot. I don't know why you had trouble finding any developmental info on the film. I'm a pretty big Clear and Present Danger fan, so I was following it in the late 90s with Ford attached. http://web.archive.org/web/200208040453 ... fears.html
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Thegun
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I love that site, I remember it well. Wasn't it shut down for half the "Details" usually being rumors at best. I still remember when Indiana Jones 4 was guaranteed on there to be in theaters by 2002 written by M. Night. Also what is Gemini Man, did that ever become anything?
PS, what was the name of that website, was that cinescape?
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I would have loved another Big Trouble in Little China. One of Carpenter's best.
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Thegun
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6. True Lies 2- By James CameronThe By James Cameron part is especially important. I was thinking of including an entire spot on James Cameron sequels to T2 and Aliens, but at the end of the day there's probably not much more he could have told, having basically finished the stories on both franchises. As we both know that didn't happen, and neither did True Lies 2, a sequel to a hugely popular action film that left a lot of room open for another adventure. And for a while, it was actually being considered by Cameron until 9/11 when he said he could never make fun of terrorists again. Then there is another rumor that the plot line for True Lies 2 double agent plot that it was reworked, watered down and turned into Mr. and Mrs. Smith, though Kinberg says the idea was completely his original idea, but we all know how original Mr. and Mrs. Smith is. True Lies 2 would have meant yet another Cameron/Schwarzenegger combo, exhilarating stunts and action, and just plain fun.
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