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Mannyisthebest
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 Re: Repub nominee watch - Newt Dickrich's time in the sun
I frankly think bringing Ronald Reagan from the dead is the most popular option with Republicans right now. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK3Eo9cScEQlol dislike his policies and his record, but I think moderates or Republicans and myself would like to see a candidate as half as good as he.
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Darth Indiana Bond
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I almost want to atribute more of the "genius" behind Reagan being Nixon and Bush Sr. Reagan was clearly a front man with a passionate drive and charisma like no other.
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Mannyisthebest
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 Re: Repub nominee watch - Newt Dickrich's time in the sun
His presidency had a massive impact on American society.
As a whole he made America more conservative especially economically. A lot of his economic ideas are still used by Republicans and even democrats a like (not saying are the right policies).
Imo both theories have failed dramatically imo (Supply Side vs Keynesian) We have experimented with Keynesian economics but it sort of failed as well we had unrealistic expectations from it. Obama failed to realize that stimulus was suppose to be the spark to the economic recovery not be the main driving force of an economy. As big as the US govt is, its quite small to the overall economy.
Sure we can spend again, however the interest payments will become such a big part of our budget that we will have to increase taxes on the rich and the middle class and cut spending in the future.
Increasing taxes will not be enough as such a massive increase will lead to a flight of capital, and massively decreasing spending will decrease the quality of life.
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Mannyisthebest
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well at least the race has gotten way more grown up, its between Romney and Gingrich now.
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Gingrich although an excellent attack dog imo just talks to much if that's possible or even a real criticism. I can't say he's to smart for the voting public but he comes across condescending and as if he's a know it all. I don't think he has any chance against Romney and if the Republican establishment has any brains they will make every effort to make Romney the nominee. I can't see anybody else beating Obama at this point.
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Mannyisthebest
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Gingrich will not win but I rather see him and Romney being the focus of the GOP leadership race as they are two only real proper candidates (well Huntsman as well).
The rest are a joke.
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Gingrich has gained a lot of ground this past week in the polls.
Romney had 20-30 pt leads in New Hampshire just last week, but Gingrich has surged and Romney is only 10 pts ahead now. Gingrich is also beating Romney handily in Iowa, South Carolina, Montana, Florida, Louisiana, and is even within single digits from Romney in California.
It's kinda of insane how social conservatives just refuse to back Romney considering he's the best candidate on a national level.
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Mannyisthebest
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 Re: Repub nominee watch - Newt Dickrich's time in the sun
Obama has many disadvantages going into the 2012 elections like Jimmy Carter.
-high unemployment - low growth - pessimism about America's future - riled up opposition and depressed base support
However, Jimmy Carter was leading Reagan till the last few weeks. It still took Ronald Regan's legendary debate performance in the 1980 election to turn the tide. Many know of the famous ending question "Are you Better today, then 4 years ago?."
My point being, I think Obama will likley win most likley due to a weak candidate. Polls show him losing to a generic Republican candidate, but once he goes against individuals he wins apart from Romney.
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Jedi Master Carr
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 Re: Repub nominee watch - Newt Dickrich's time in the sun
Mannyisthebest wrote: Obama has many disadvantages going into the 2012 elections like Jimmy Carter.
-high unemployment - low growth - pessimism about America's future - riled up opposition and depressed base support
However, Jimmy Carter was leading Reagan till the last few weeks. It still took Ronald Regan's legendary debate performance in the 1980 election to turn the tide. Many know of the famous ending question "Are you Better today, then 4 years ago?."
My point being, I think Obama will likley win most likley due to a weak candidate. Polls show him losing to a generic Republican candidate, but once he goes against individuals he wins apart from Romney. Carter had other problems and you could go further back and find other comparisons for Obama. Things were looking very bad for Truman and he got reelected. I think he trailed Dewey for most of the election. And the economy was much worse with Roosevelt, and he won in a landslide.
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Mannyisthebest
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FDR is a legendary American President, no point comparing Obama to him. He was well loved and liked because he was a strong and decisive leader.
Dewey in 1948 was a very weak candidate, and well known for saying obvious things..
"the future is ahead of you" "the rivers are full of fish" Dewey thought he could win by doing nothing really.
Soo Truman was able to show himself to be much better then Dewey to the average voter who supported FDR. Anyways that election is considered the biggest upset in American history.
However when Carter faced Reagan in 1980, Carter was nowhere near as good. Reagan outclassed him in all areas. Carter had big problems (Iran, Energy Crisis, Economy) but the main one was the lack of confidence by American's that developed during his presidency and is something we are seeing today.
Obama will likley succeed due to a weak performance by a GOP candidate. If the GOP candidate can not get his base and moderates to support him, he will not be able to beat Obama. This is something Reagan was able to do (Reagan Democrats). Luckily for Obama there is no current candidate half as good.
Also, yes I acknowledge Reagan many faults, but he was a great President none the less. Clinton is great too. I wish Obama could be more like those two Presidents.
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Jedi Master Carr
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Mannyisthebest wrote: FDR is a legendary American President, no point comparing Obama to him. He was well loved and liked because he was a strong and decisive leader.
Dewey in 1948 was a very weak candidate, and well known for saying obvious things..
"the future is ahead of you" "the rivers are full of fish" Dewey thought he could win by doing nothing really.
Soo Truman was able to show himself to be much better then Dewey to the average voter who supported FDR. Anyways that election is considered the biggest upset in American history.
However when Carter faced Reagan in 1980, Carter was nowhere near as good. Reagan outclassed him in all areas. Carter had big problems (Iran, Energy Crisis, Economy) but the main one was the lack of confidence by American's that developed during his presidency and is something we are seeing today.
Obama will likley succeed due to a weak performance by a GOP candidate. If the GOP candidate can not get his base and moderates to support him, he will not be able to beat Obama. This is something Reagan was able to do (Reagan Democrats). Luckily for Obama there is no current candidate half as good.
Also, yes I acknowledge Reagan many faults, but he was a great President none the less. Clinton is great too. I wish Obama could be more like those two Presidents. I think Obama has done great on Foreign Policy. I love how he approached Libya. Sometime I wish he would become more aggressive with the Republicans and not give in so much but I understand why he does it. It doesn't help the other side don't want to compromise. I do think the Truman comparison is the best one. Truman wasn't very popular going into the Election. Polls didn't really exist back then, but I would say they had similar approval numbers. Romney reminds me a lot of Dewey, so there are some comparisons there.
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Mannyisthebest
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Well I am not saying Obama is terrible, I think he is way better than Jimmy Carter but nothing compared to Clinton or Reagan. Even during the scandal, Clinton remained a very well liked President. Obama has done well on foreign policy but there are some big issues ahead and it will be interesting to see what he does. Domestically he has been a very weak president. Also I agree Obama can easily win due to a weak opponent. Frankly, the GOP has every advantage in the next election apart from a good candidate.  Dislike Reagan or Clinton, but these men had clear new visions and ideas for America. That is why people voted for them over the incumbent (Carter and Bush Sr). I do not see anything even close to a campaign of hope and confidence that Reagan had, from the current GOP candidates.
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Shack
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Cain dropped out
Newt vs Romney. Snake vs Snake.
Newt is apparantley leading in Iowa now
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Cain Bunga Bunga.
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Tyler
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Gingrich would giftwrap the election to Obama.
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Mannyisthebest
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Yeah I think Gingrich will be popular with his base but not outside of it.
Man wish the GOP had a great candidate...
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Rev
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Shack wrote: Cain dropped out my condolence to SNL, Colbert Report & The Daily Show for their loss
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Mannyisthebest
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Well I sort of like its a race between two people who are not crazy.
Gingrich comes off as unlikeable but as a professor or as a speaker he seems like a smart guy and reasonable. Of course, running for the GOP again has caused him to shift far to the right again.
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The man wants to instate more manditory drug tests.
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Caius
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Jon Huntsman is looking better by the day to me. I can't stand the arrogance and pomposity of Gingrich.
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Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:50 am |
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Jedi Master Carr
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Caius wrote: Jon Huntsman is looking better by the day to me. I can't stand the arrogance and pomposity of Gingrich. I liked what he said about Trump. Why do all these candidates try to kiss his ass? The general public hates that arrogant prick.
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Caius
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Jedi Master Carr wrote: Caius wrote: Jon Huntsman is looking better by the day to me. I can't stand the arrogance and pomposity of Gingrich. I liked what he said about Trump. Why do all these candidates try to kiss his ass? The general public hates that arrogant prick. Why anyone takes Trump seriously, I will never know. The birther stuff is disgusting.
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Tyler
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Mannyisthebest wrote: Well I sort of like its a race between two people who are not crazy.
Gingrich comes off as unlikeable but as a professor or as a speaker he seems like a smart guy and reasonable. Of course, running for the GOP again has caused him to shift far to the right again. Dude, the 90s?
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