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Rick0180
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 Re: 2011 Major League Baseball Discussion
Interesting! Papelbon suspended 3 games, but he appeals.
Looks like his normal bad behavior finally caught up to him. Maybe Beckett will be next!
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Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:03 pm |
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Jmart
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 Re: 2011 Major League Baseball Discussion
Normal bad behavior?
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Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:08 pm |
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Rick0180
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Jmart wrote: Normal bad behavior? Yup, and that is why he got penalized with a very harsh penalty. Also, not at home watching so will check it out later, Lester hits 2 guys in 1st inning and knocks Texiera out of the game. Sure hope that wasn't intentional, and wish Baseball would do what the NHL does, throws them out of the game. Cheapest Play in Baseball, when a Pitcher throws at a Hitter.
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Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:32 pm |
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Jmart
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 Re: 2011 Major League Baseball Discussion
Rick0180 wrote: and wish Baseball would do what the NHL does, throws them out of the game. You've never seen a pitcher get ejected from a baseball game?
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Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:50 pm |
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Rick0180
The Incredible Hulk
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Jmart wrote: Rick0180 wrote: and wish Baseball would do what the NHL does, throws them out of the game. You've never seen a pitcher get ejected from a baseball game? Not enough, especially tonight, as hitting 2 guys in an innings, should be a mandatory ejection. Considering that a pitcher is suppose to have control of his pitches and not put a batter in danger. And I would say this no matter who is pitching, as I think that is total Bush League Play. Just like the Pitcher who hits a batter, cause he is mad the other team, homered against him. Mostly happened after that lame pitcher has given up 2 homers.
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Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:32 pm |
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Jmart
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 Re: 2011 Major League Baseball Discussion
If two batters are hit intentionally that's one thing, and most likely in that case a pitcher would get tossed, but neither of the pitches by Lester were intentional. One loaded the bases, and if that was done intentionally I'd like to see what other strategies the Red Sox have up their sleeves.
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Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:40 pm |
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Jmart
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 Re: 2011 Major League Baseball Discussion
Isn't the appeals process just grand? 
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Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:35 pm |
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Thegun
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 Re: 2011 Major League Baseball Discussion
Paplebon is now the fastest closer to 200 saves, passing Rivera by 23 games. Good game for the most part, Yankees held on but loosing your starter before the 2nd inning is not good for the bullpen during this series.
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Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:05 am |
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Rick0180
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Thegun wrote: Paplebon is now the fastest closer to 200 saves, passing Rivera by 23 games. Good game for the most part, Yankees held on but loosing your starter before the 2nd inning is not good for the bullpen during this series. Not sure what that means Gun? Especially since that Yankee bullpen only used 2 pitchers, who held the Red Sox to 2 runs over 7 innings. That was pretty awesome!!!!!!! And is this the bad bullpen you have been talking about this season. And through the 1st 1/3 of the season, the Yankees are tied for 3rd for the best ERA in the AL. Pretty Damn Impressive! And on the game > the Yankees held on, especially after Lester takes out one of the Best Home Run Hitters in the League, #2 right now, out of the Yankee line-up in the 1st inning, hurting the Yankees, in the game and probably taking him out of the whole series! And CC usually doesn't need the bullpen, so unless he has a rare bad game, the bullpen can rest tommorrow.
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Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:48 am |
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Thegun
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Another good win, and the experts seemed to talk a lot about the Yankee's bullpen being exhausted today. Cervelli was probably the biggest factor in the Yankees losing today. Only 4 more wins for Wakefield, good for him.
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Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:09 pm |
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Chippy
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The transformation is now complete. Rick is Goldie.
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Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:34 am |
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Rick0180
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Thegun wrote: Another good win, and the experts seemed to talk a lot about the Yankee's bullpen being exhausted today. Cervelli was probably the biggest factor in the Yankees losing today. Only 4 more wins for Wakefield, good for him. Actually the ump, who screwed Jeter on ball and strike calls when Jeter was up with tying runs on base, was the biggest factor in the game. Would have loved to have seen what would have happened if Yankees tied the score at 8, after being down 7-0.
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Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:08 pm |
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Jmart
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 Re: 2011 Major League Baseball Discussion
The ump gave the Red Sox 11 runs?
Still waiting for that stellar starting pitching to show up from anyone who doesn't have Sabathia as their last name. I'd say their awful starting pitching has been the deciding factor in both games so far.
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Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:20 pm |
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Chippy
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lol
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Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:23 pm |
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Rick0180
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Jmart wrote: The ump gave the Red Sox 11 runs?
Still waiting for that stellar starting pitching to show up from anyone who doesn't have Sabathia as their last name. I'd say their awful starting pitching has been the deciding factor in both games so far. Never said that, said I was looking to see the game tied at 8......and are you telling me that umps and strike counts don't make a big difference. Especially in Jeter's case, Bases Loaded and Tying Runners on Base. And I thought of this before, but I didn't want to type it up Gonzalez up with the bases loaded, on a 2-1 count, a pitch is well inside the strike box on tv. Nope ump calls it ball 3. So now bases loaded and 3-1 count..... so whatever if you don't admit stike counts make a difference. Your Wrong.
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Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:35 pm |
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Rick0180
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Jmart wrote: Still waiting for that stellar starting pitching to show up from anyone who doesn't have Sabathia as their last name. I'd say their awful starting pitching has been the deciding factor in both games so far.
Well unfortunately the Yankees didn't switch Colon to face the Red Sox, as he has better stuff to face Boston. Also Colon's 3.3 ERA would put him at #2 on Red Sox behind Beckett. Too Bad Some don't look at the whole picture, and with all the Yankee bashing going on. Yankees are still tied for 1st in the Loss Column, but the Red Sox have played more games. Anyway, still looking forward to Beckett CC tonight.
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Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:46 pm |
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Thegun
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Rick0180 wrote: Jmart wrote: The ump gave the Red Sox 11 runs?
Still waiting for that stellar starting pitching to show up from anyone who doesn't have Sabathia as their last name. I'd say their awful starting pitching has been the deciding factor in both games so far. Never said that, said I was looking to see the game tied at 8......and are you telling me that umps and strike counts don't make a big difference. Especially in Jeter's case, Bases Loaded and Tying Runners on Base. And I thought of this before, but I didn't want to type it up Gonzalez up with the bases loaded, on a 2-1 count, a pitch is well inside the strike box on tv. Nope ump calls it ball 3. So now bases loaded and 3-1 count..... so whatever if you don't admit stike counts make a difference. Your Wrong. I thought the commentators were talking about how much leniency they were giving Jeter this series, almost two errors were count as hits and others were some strikes turned into balls. They really want him to get to 3000 while he's home. I don't think the Umps have been particularly favorable to either team, but the errors turned hits are questionable
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Thu Jun 09, 2011 8:24 pm |
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Jmart
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Rick0180 wrote: Jmart wrote: The ump gave the Red Sox 11 runs?
Still waiting for that stellar starting pitching to show up from anyone who doesn't have Sabathia as their last name. I'd say their awful starting pitching has been the deciding factor in both games so far. Never said that, said I was looking to see the game tied at 8......and are you telling me that umps and strike counts don't make a big difference. Especially in Jeter's case, Bases Loaded and Tying Runners on Base. No, my point was that no matter what the umpire did the Yankees still gave up 11 runs. When you give up 11 runs you're going to lose. You can't complain about an umpire's specific call being a possible difference in the game when your starting pitching is that fucking atrocious.
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Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:50 pm |
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Rick0180
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Boy, do I hate annoying red Sox Fans. So, per you >>> You can't complain about an umpire's specific call being a possible difference in the game when your starting pitching is that fucking atrocious.
Well 1st of all yesterday's last 3 runs were in mop up time, and during Jeter's at bat, it could easily have been 8-8! So I guess neither team deserved to win.
And again, as Boston's fans make stupid points, without thinking of the stats > Which team has the worst starting pitching, this year?
Boston - 4.20 Total ERA
Beckett - 2.01 Lester - 4.00 Bucholz - 3.82 Lackey - 7.60 Wakefield - 4.84 Dice - 5.3
New York - 3.60 Total ERA
Burnett - 4.3 CC - 2.8 Nova - 4.5 Garcia - 3.8 Colon - 3.3
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Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:13 pm |
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Jmart
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What's the Yankees ERA against the Red Sox? They're 1-7 against them, I'm thinking it's a little high.
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Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:17 pm |
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Rick0180
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Missed the start of the game, so Beckett hits Jeter. Sure hope that wasn't intentional! (And as I mentioned before, is Beckett trying to live up to his and Papelbon's normal behavior.
And like I said before, strike count is soooooo important. As then, Beckett falls behind Granderson, and Granderson hits a homer off Beckett, on a pitch right down the middle of the plate.
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Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:19 pm |
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Rick0180
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Jmart wrote: What's the Yankees ERA against the Red Sox? They're 1-7 against them, I'm thinking it's a little high. And yet they are tied for 1st, in the Loss Column, this season, so great as I guess the Yankees have been kicking everyone's ass this year. Sweet, Maybe the Great Yankee Starting Pitching is under 3.00 vs everyone else, then! Sweet!
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Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:22 pm |
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Jmart
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They're just not good against the team ahead of them in the standings. Its not like that's important or anything. 
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Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:26 pm |
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Rick0180
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Jmart wrote: They're just not good against the team ahead of them in the standings. Its not like that's important or anything.  Wow, for how many days have the Yankees and Red Sox each been in 1st place. Guess finally getting to 1st Place for a couple days in June is important for Boston Fans. Yankees Fans Not. As I am sure that the Yankees want it to be in 1st Place in October. Just as the Yankees have been in the playoffs, for like 15 out of the last 16 years! But you can have your 1st Place in June. Anyway, unless the Red Sox win tonight, Yankees are back in 1st.
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Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:53 pm |
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Jmart
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Rick0180 wrote: Wow, for how many days have the Yankees and Red Sox each been in 1st place. Guess finally getting to 1st Place for a couple days in June is important for Boston Fans. Yankees Fans Not. As I am sure that the Yankees want it to be in 1st Place in October.
Just as the Yankees have been in the playoffs, for like 15 out of the last 16 years! But you can have your 1st Place in June. How did you get any of that out of what I said? My point was that the Yankees are probably going to need to have a somewhat decent record against THEIR DIVISION RIVALS in order to make the playoffs. As of right now they don't. And am I happy the Red Sox are in first place now? Considering the awful start they had, abso-fucking-lutely. Why wouldn't I be? Does it mean anything if they aren't in first in October or if they don't make the playoffs? Of course not. But again, that wasn't my point. My point was that the Yankees need to be better against the Red Sox. Quote: Anyway, unless the Red Sox win tonight, Yankees are back in 1st. ...in a tie with the Red Sox, although the Red Sox would have the advantage because they have a better record head-to-head. But as I said before, it's not like that's important. 
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