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Post Obama takes undeserved vacation at coast, away from the oil
Wow, is this guy clueless...so Obama goes to the Maine coast far from the oil slick shores, where he promised all of America and the world that he had under controller and he would make better and back to normal!!!! But that promise is long forgotten > First family enjoys tennis, sights boating on Maine coast > Sure hope Obama gets some nice photo ops in the clean water as he enjoys his vacation....


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Obama doesn't get a vacation?

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Obama doesn't get a vacation?


Nope, not when he doesn't deserve one and his promises still are unfinished.

Maybe you think he should do some yachting, fishing or scuba diving in the clean water!


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I didn't realize you had to earn vacations?

At your job, do you have to earn vacation time?

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I didn't realize you had to earn vacations?

At your job, do you have to earn vacation time?


guess you never had a job of responsibility but mgt jobs have responsibilities that have to be met before personal time.....

and so let him go yachting, fishing, scuba diving or jet skying and let see what the public says...

and then why did the BP guy get scorned in the papers for going yahcting to watch some races >>>>

and look at this >>>>> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/hypocr ... oil-spill/

Hypocrite: Obama Criticizes BP CEO For Going Yachting During Gulf Oil Spill
June 19, 2010
Rob Port
Even supposing this were legitimate criticism (it’s not, the CEO isn’t exactly the guy who puts on coveralls and starts mopping up oil), what business does Obama have leveling this criticism when he’s been golfing about a half a dozen times since the leak started? In fact, right after Obama compared the gulf oil spill to 9/11 (ridiculous), he went golfing for four hours.

>>>> GUESS OBAMA FEELS THAT THE 9/11 PART HAS PASSED.....BUT I BET YOU ALOT OTHERS DON'T YET!!!!


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It is the BP's job to clean the spill, not Obama's.

And every job I've ever had, you get vacation after 90 days.

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It is the BP's job to clean the spill, not Obama's.

And every job I've ever had, you get vacation after 90 days.


ok, post whore comparing any job you had to the Presidents is a joke!

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President's don't get vacations?

Bush took a shit ton.

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Post Re: Obama takes undeserved vacation at coast, away from the oil
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President's don't get vacations?

Bush took a shit ton.

No he didn't and when he did he got a ton of shit for it. He also stopped playing golf which Obama has not done.

Regardless, it is not like it matters if the President is at the White House. The job is a 24/7 job and can be done from the White House or most other places.


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President's don't get vacations?

Bush took a shit ton.

No he didn't and when he did he got a ton of shit for it. He also stopped playing golf which Obama has not done.

Regardless, it is not like it matters if the President is at the White House. The job is a 24/7 job and can be done from the White House or most other places.


so you would have been fine with seeing him yachting, fishing, scuba diving or jet skying......

and it isn't just the oil situation...lots of other problems are on the table unfinished.....that can't be done on vacation...maybe he can have a press conference....but is he really going to be able to have informed meetings on all situations while he is away on vacation, where they can make things better!


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Post Re: Obama takes undeserved vacation at coast, away from the oil
If Obama is not at the White House, that means he is less likely doing something that I do not like in Washington. Obama is also going on vacation next month.

The less work Obama does (even though he has tons of aids doing the real work, which is trye for all presidents), the happier I am.


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If Obama is not at the White House, that means he is less likely doing something that I do not like in Washington. Obama is also going on vacation next month.

The less work Obama does (even though he has tons of aids doing the real work, which is true for all presidents), the happier I am.


I guess that is correct. We seems to agree that Obama is a mess who can't do anything right and f up anything that he is involved in.

So a vacation is good but a permanent vacation would be best.


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Post Re: Obama takes undeserved vacation at coast, away from the oil
Caius - I'm pretty sure Obama has a tone of aides, not a ton of AIDS ;) Although I see how you would assume that, given that he's Kenyan.

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Post Re: Obama takes undeserved vacation at coast, away from the oil
According to Fact Check, an unbiased source, "President Obama has spent all or part of 26 days "on vacation" during his first year as president."

In comparison, "Of the 77 total "vacation" trips George W. Bush made to his Texas ranch while in office, nine of them — all or part of 69 days — came during his first year"

So, of course, using Republican numbers, we can see that Obama's 26 days is much much greater than Bush's 69 days.

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/presid ... tion-days/

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According to Fact Check, an unbiased source, "President Obama has spent all or part of 26 days "on vacation" during his first year as president."

In comparison, "Of the 77 total "vacation" trips George W. Bush made to his Texas ranch while in office, nine of them — all or part of 69 days — came during his first year"

So, of course, using Republican numbers, we can see that Obama's 26 days is much much greater than Bush's 69 days.

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/presid ... tion-days/


and who has a worse budget deficit, who has worse unemployment, who started stimulus plans that aren't working, who has a national disaster on his hands, etc, etc, etc.....

so big deal on the past, lets worry about the present as things just keep on getting worse under Obama....


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Post Re: Obama takes undeserved vacation at coast, away from the oil
I think the vacation thing is irrelevant. Its not as if a president is really on "vacation" when he is away from the White House or on official state trips. Also, Mark Knoller did not count the President's golf trips, which is almost every weekend when the weather is good enough to golf. About a month ago Knoller reported that Obama had played about 40 rounds of golf, which at 4 or so hours a round (which I think is generous due to the security concerns) would translate to around 6.5 more days of "vacation." That is more than President Bush did during both terms and he stopped playing in October of 2003.


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Post Re: Obama takes undeserved vacation at coast, away from the oil
Lol. Poor Groucho can't win a debate with anyone. And I hope he does more research when appearing in front of a judge with a clients freedom at stake.


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Lol. Poor Groucho can't win a debate with anyone. And I hope he does more research when appearing in front of a judge with a clients freedom at stake.

Legal argumentation is not really like a normal debate or argument. I don't know if Groucho is a trial attorney (civil or criminal), but if he is, I am willing to bet that 90% of his work is done before he arrives in court and that is only in the cases that actually go to trial.

The only time one really makes an argument that involves any sort of rhetorical skill is when there is no controlling legal precedent in whatever jurisdiction you are in. Otherwise, it is a lot of "X higher court said this about X law" and my case is pretty much that case or not that case.

That doesn't even consider things like legal fictions.


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I think the vacation thing is irrelevant. Its not as if a president is really on "vacation" when he is away from the White House or on official state trips. Also, Mark Knoller did not count the President's golf trips, which is almost every weekend when the weather is good enough to golf. About a month ago Knoller reported that Obama had played about 40 rounds of golf, which at 4 or so hours a round (which I think is generous due to the security concerns) would translate to around 6.5 more days of "vacation." That is more than President Bush did during both terms and he stopped playing in October of 2003.

I hope we don't end up finding out that Obama has been sleeping at night too!!! :shocked:


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Caius wrote:
I think the vacation thing is irrelevant. Its not as if a president is really on "vacation" when he is away from the White House or on official state trips. Also, Mark Knoller did not count the President's golf trips, which is almost every weekend when the weather is good enough to golf. About a month ago Knoller reported that Obama had played about 40 rounds of golf, which at 4 or so hours a round (which I think is generous due to the security concerns) would translate to around 6.5 more days of "vacation." That is more than President Bush did during both terms and he stopped playing in October of 2003.

I hope we don't end up finding out that Obama has been sleeping at night too!!! :shocked:

Oh, well I guess that Obama's vacation days should actually be reduced by 1/3 (8 hours sleeping) or 1/4 (6 hours sleeping (or less)) if we are going to use your humorous methodology.


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Less sleeping, more oil sweeping! Right, Goldie?

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Lol. Poor Groucho can't win a debate with anyone. And I hope he does more research when appearing in front of a judge with a clients freedom at stake.

Legal argumentation is not really like a normal debate or argument. I don't know if Groucho is a trial attorney (civil or criminal), but if he is, I am willing to bet that 90% of his work is done before he arrives in court and that is only in the cases that actually go to trial.

The only time one really makes an argument that involves any sort of rhetorical skill is when there is no controlling legal precedent in whatever jurisdiction you are in. Otherwise, it is a lot of "X higher court said this about X law" and my case is pretty much that case or not that case.

That doesn't even consider things like legal fictions.


well he has bragged on here about his great debating skills.


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I think the vacation thing is irrelevant. Its not as if a president is really on "vacation" when he is away from the White House or on official state trips. Also, Mark Knoller did not count the President's golf trips, which is almost every weekend when the weather is good enough to golf. About a month ago Knoller reported that Obama had played about 40 rounds of golf, which at 4 or so hours a round (which I think is generous due to the security concerns) would translate to around 6.5 more days of "vacation." That is more than President Bush did during both terms and he stopped playing in October of 2003.


Are you an idiot?

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Good god, Chip, you're like a walking advertisement for irony that universe took out on Earth.

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Caius wrote:
I think the vacation thing is irrelevant. Its not as if a president is really on "vacation" when he is away from the White House or on official state trips. Also, Mark Knoller did not count the President's golf trips, which is almost every weekend when the weather is good enough to golf. About a month ago Knoller reported that Obama had played about 40 rounds of golf, which at 4 or so hours a round (which I think is generous due to the security concerns) would translate to around 6.5 more days of "vacation." That is more than President Bush did during both terms and he stopped playing in October of 2003.


Are you an idiot?

Compared to some, probably. Compared to you, unlikely. Do I need to provide the counterargument to my point for you?

You [meaning me] are comparing apples and oranges. Obama did not actually leave D.C. to go on the majority of his golf outings and some of the golf outings occurred within vacation time; thus under your methodology, that golf outing would be counted twice, which is incorrect. For example, on his Hawaiian vacation he also golfed.

Further, during a golf outing he is not not actually on "vacation," rather he is on his free time after his work day has ended. Lots of people do this. For example, a person might put in their 10 hours at work and then go golfing and have a drink. This is done in their free time and thus should not be counted whereas a person who is on vacation is temporarily away when he would normally be at work.


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