God damnit you are a fucking idiot.

They are no big deal. Remember how I talked about straight lines? The Green Monster is not a straight line. Otherwise it'd be 310 to 310 left to right. The "Wall" gets deeper and deeper as it goes towards center from left. That's why the foul pole is marked at 310' and the yellow line is 379'. That's why a mere few feet aren't a big deal, especially when you take into account the other locations at both ballparks. Fenway is deeper in right than it is at Yankee Stadium. Yankee Stadium is slightly deeper from left to right. When you do the numbers for both, they practically cancel one another out. But you also have to account for the wall. It's 27 feet high. There have been many line drive home runs at Yankee Stadium (and many other ballparks) to left that simply would've been off the wall at Fenway because they weren't hit high enough.

So then you're left with the foul poles, and at Fenway, those only become a factor in terms of depth when players actually hit them. I will agree with you that if you hit Pesky's Pole at Fenway (right field), it's a cheap home run because it's only 302 (and 314....so much better). If you hit around it though for a home run, you've earned it because the wall straightens out and becomes deeper and much deeper than 314.

Bucky Dent's home run most likely would've also have been a home run at Yankee Stadium based on WHERE IT LANDED in the screen at Fenway. He didn't hit the bottom of the pole at the top of the wall. The ball landed towards the middle of the wall. It wasn't a 310 foot home run.



Which of course makes these "stories" "true".

27 feet high???? Everyone says 37 feet!!!

and all over the internet there are stories like this >>>>>>

3) the Green Monster, the 37-foot wall in left field which makes left field a cozy space and which can convert routine flyballs into extra-base hits. For over 50 years, the wall was listed at 315 feet away from the plate, a very generous estimate. In 1995 the Red Sox (without explanation) changed the number to 310 feet, but more realistically the wall is probably closer to 300 feet away.

*********** and as the above says, fly balls are turned into hits...because you are right some homers are taken away but alot more lazy fly balls that would be outs at all other stadiums.

basically any fly balls that is coming down off an arc on the green ball would probably be an out in most stadiums.

**** and note the comment on the 300 feet above, there are plenty of stores and I guess that MLB doesn't care about it as it has been changed and 10 times ffrom what I read.

Oh, stories on the interwebs? All true.

guess then everyone else is wrong on the internet that the green monster is 37 feet and not the 27 feet you say....

but anyway these stories come from somewhere....

and why did the Red Sox change the number from 315 to 310 in 1995? Did Fenway shrink that year???????????

.........so lots of fishy stuff happening at Fenway!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No you're right. I got the Monster number wrong. Ten more feet just furthers enhances my original point.

And as for 1995 they remeasured because that number was long in doubt. They measured 310. Until someone comes up with another number (and remeasures) that's the official number.

And the stories come from somewhere? That sounds concrete.

well, I wonder if they let a drunk measure it on St. Patty's Day?

and the big wall enhauces nothing...as it is alot more possible for some hitters to be dinking fly balls off the wall that would be pop ups out at other stadiums.

Think of people like Fred Lynn or Dustin P (sp?) as 2 examples.

I'll take a drunk with actual measuring tape over conspiracy theories.

whatever as I like to know if any other stadium recently ever posted such a incorrect number. As 5 feet could easily be 15 but Red Sox management didn't want to be known as laughing stock of baseball so they compromised.

Yep, that's probably what happened. I'm sure an official member from the commisioner's office hasn't been out there or anything...

SURE i AM SURE THAT THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE YEARLY CHECKS THE NUMBERS AT EVERY STADIUM.

FYI, Nope as they just figure the teams will be showing the correct numbers....and in the long run it doesn't matter to them....

but it does to the Red Sox, it seems!

I didn't realize you had to check the numbers yearly. Odd.

Did I say yearly? What I meant, but you didn't seem to grasp at. Is I would bet that someone from the commisioner's office went out and double checked the numbers since like to keep records afterall. I bet it's even in that giant encyclopedia they've put out.

Whatever. But I doubt it. And if you find an official reference post it. As under Selig baseball didn't even care about Selig. And there is no reason for them to care or waste time or money or that. As from there point of view, it effects nothing.

So it effects nothing? Good, welcome to the majority who doesn't give two shits about foot markings. And you want me to get an official reference? Shouldn't you have done that to begin with regarding the stories you've heard?

No because I have heard that story so many times from different people that I believe it.

And just like the Red Sox had it knowing wrong for like 50 years. They really would have been laughing stocks it they change the number from 315 to 295.

Anyway, it is clearly one of the most unfair parts of any ball park in MLB..

Says you. You'd think that if it were really unfair, not only would more fans be up and arms, but players too.

Would be nice if Red Sox fans would be fair and honest for once. But to get to play at a home park where they play 81 games a year and tailor a team that can just line doubles off a wall that would be outs anywhere else.

That is the big unfair advantage/ in MLB.

Well figures that is the best you can do as I have been LOL at the Red Sox for years and years and years.

And I enjoyed the last 2 years when I correctly ripped apart your beginning of the year Red Sox analysis.

Well aren't you special.

Thanks. But it is easy to rip apart weak analysis.

And just think of the satisfaction you must've felt when no one took the time to notice or care.

Doesn't care to me as the results/standings are how I judge the results.

But you said you ripped apart weak analysis. That kind of sounds like you care. And how is that judging the results...based on the results (bit redundant)?

Anyway, good sweep. It's kind of hard to imagine how far Buccholz has come. Last year I remember the sports talk shows around here were wondering what the Sox were going to do with him. He hadn't pitched well and with Lackey coming in, there almost wasn't a need for him. Without him, they'd be pretty much a fourth place team right now, at best.

The Sox have a nice little streak going here, especially considering the amount of injuries they have.