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He should go to Chicago, they'd dominate.

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It's too bad he's going to Miami. It'll be fun the first year & then somehow it'll turn to shit.

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Lebron, Wade, and Bosh would be the favorite....though by no means a lock. Who they get as a supporting cast is HUGE.

Plus, if one gets injured, they have no chance.


so how does it work...if those 3 are getting top contracts, will Miami be able to sign any other decent players in the next 5/6 years....


They might be able to add a few guys at the end of their careers like Shaq who doesn't care about money any more. But it be tough to get good players to pay for minimum pay.


Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:19 pm
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ESPN guys are so biased, they all call Wade the second best player in the NBA, Implying Bryant isn't even top 2.
The best players win championships as The Man and Bryant has 2 as The Man so far, Lebron has none and Wade 1.


Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:05 pm
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I think wade is the best player in the NBA myself, the guy is amazing and he has been doing it by himself down there in Miami. Kobe has great players around him and a great coach which helps. To be fair I think it is fairly close between the three of them.


Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:14 pm
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love how they said this decision would come in the first 10/15 minutes but of course it took 30 minutes.....

and a big comment by James > he wants to win now and win more later > so is Miami the best team for that....

but anyway, will the Miami nightlife, women, beaches and nightclubs...they are going to have a good time for 5 years.


Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:33 pm
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What an awful, awful choice.

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LeBron, you cold, cold man.


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Well I don't blame him for leaving Cleveland if he doesn't think they can win a title. Now the question is Miami the best choice. He sure isn't doing it for the money since he is taking a pay cut.


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The Cleveland Curse is alive & well. :lol:

The NBA better schedule Miami vs LA or Boston & make it the only game on opening night. :D

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Well I don't blame him for leaving Cleveland if he doesn't think they can win a title. Now the question is Miami the best choice. He sure isn't doing it for the money since he is taking a pay cut.

Not really, because the hype of "the trio" will bring LBJ, individually, more money in endorsements, jerseys, etc than he would've earned as the sole star on a team like the Nets. That said, if they don't go deep next year, the hype cools down.


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Miami just became the most hated team. Seriously, outside of fair-weather fans and Miami fans, who the hell would root for this team? It's not even a situation like LA or Boston where it's a franchise deep with history, hence its fanbase has spread over time. Miami fanbase is located mostly within its city borders. Lakers and Celtics will be looked as "saviors" in order to stop this team.


Well I think the Lakers are still very hated. Most non-fans of them hate them because they have won so many titles.


Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:59 pm
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I can't see the Thunder beating them next season. I think only the Lakers and Magic can beat the Heat.


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Well I don't blame him for leaving Cleveland if he doesn't think they can win a title. Now the question is Miami the best choice. He sure isn't doing it for the money since he is taking a pay cut.

Not really, because the hype of "the trio" will bring LBJ, individually, more money in endorsements, jerseys, etc than he would've earned as the sole star on a team like the Nets. That said, if they don't go deep next year, the hype cools down.


Lebron's star power would have been greater if he won in Chicago or NYC than it would if he will with Miami.

True, but not his earnings. There's a lot of people who like "winners." I mean, that's the reason Yankees gear sells so well outside of NYC. "The Trio" will be huge internationally -- and in elementary school classrooms ("I have the LeBron jersey," "No, I have the Bosh jersey!," "Well, I still think Wade is the best...so I sleep with my Wade jersey every night because I want to be like him."..."My mommy bought me all three!")

Anyone think that maybe for all LeBron's bullshit about "being happy," he was being honest? Maybe he doesn't want to head a team and would rather be a celebrity?


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I think that could be a big reason, less stress being second banana.


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Well, I don't think he would have ever won in New York, the knicks have just stunk in the playoffs, especially in the NBA Finals. NY hasn't been a basketball city in over 20 years anyway. The Bulls are a different story.


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You're a fool if you don't think his earnings wouldn't have been bigger in Chicago or New York. Bigger markets, and the reason you describe just proves my point. People would buy other Miami Heat jerseys outside of Lebron. If he's with Chicago or New York, people outside of Chicago would ONLY buy Lebron.

Complementary goods.

The fact that he's with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh creates buzz for the Heat...which creates buzz for all three of the jerseys.

Anyway, I'm sure they've forecasted this.


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Of course, I am glad he didn't got to NY that city is so arrogant they would have said they had all the best teams. Chicago would have probably been the best choice.


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He's tired of losing. Of being embarrassed every playoffs.
I understand wanting to join 2 other great players & form a super duper team.
lol, it worked for Boston. Made 2 finals over 3 years & won once.

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I am impressed that lebron choose to take less money and share limelight with wade and bosh. Of course the way he did it was deplorable. He is a drama queen for sure.

But heat are the overwhelming favorites to dominate nba for next 5 years. I cant see even lakers stopping this trio.

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Dan Gilber's open letter to Cleveland is hilarious.

http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/gilbe ... 00708.html


Oh boo hoo! :lol: cry me a river.
If you had done a better job surrounding him with good players (Like Celtics & Lakers did) Cavs would've had multiple championships & he wouldn't have a reason to leave.

He made himself look worse than Lebron with that email.

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If Lebron still wins a bunch of titles he'll get 'all-time' cred, the biggest damage to me is the level of fanship from Miami won't come close to some other stars in cities. Lebron will never be what Bird is to Boston, Jordan is to Chicago, Magic/Kobe are to the Lakers, etc. For one those guys had one team their entire career which gives them mystique, and secondly Miami fans just don't care about sports enough or have the history to create a legend like that. Especially with Wade on the team who will probably be preferred. If Lebron was in Cleveland he'd have that of course, if he went to NY he would just because he'd be saving them after so long, and I think in Chicago he'd have had it just because of their sports history and following Jordan/Pippen. But Miami? Nah. This is a big thing Lebron is not considering if he's all about fame and legacy. It's the reason Hakeem means way to Houston than Moses Malone means to anyone.

Lebron will be more like Wilt... who btw went to LA in 69 with Jerry West and Elgin Baylor and LOST until Baylor retired and Wilt was more of a defensive role player. So the Miami Troika is no lock.

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Having slept on it, this is a fine move for LeBron.

Whats hilarious to me, almost as funny as that pathetic Gilbert letter, is how poorly his management team handled this. LeBron could have avoided almost all of the negative publicity had he announced his decision before Bosh. He wouldnt look weak, in fact he would look heroic. Noone in their right min can blame him for leaving Cleveland-be it over their crazy owner or the fact that the entire city and franchise completely took LBJ for granted. They truly believed that Larry Hughes, Delonte West, Mo Williams, Shaq, ect. were suitable pieces for winnng a title. Had LeBron signed sooner, he would be praised for his lack of greed and desire to win. Now its getting questioned.

I totally disagree with that SI article above. LeBron James just turned down 30 million dollars and dissed his home town in order to play wioth elite talent around him instead of the trash hes had for 7 years. I see no logic sayng the man doesnt care about winning.

Do not bring up Kobe Bryant. Kobe was never able to do a damn thing without Shaquille Onieill, Pau Gasol, Odam, and everyone else he has. Kobe Bryant on the Clevelanbd teams of 03-10 would not have won a single ring. Michael Jordan didnot do a thing eiother until he got with Scottie Pippen, one of the best of all time.

What LeBron actually has done with this deal is set himself upto go down as te greatest to ever play. Hes never had an elite scorer, an elite passer, or elite big man. LeBrons going to the top dog on the team, he is too much better than Dwade for to be difference. He may not win scoring titles, but the MVPs will come. Now he has a real chance at averaging a triple double.

5 years from now, a 30 year old LeBron probably heads into free agency once again a multiple NBA Champion with 3-4 MVP awards under his belt. The best offensive player all around, one of the best defensive players. Now he can go dominate on his own once again, and hopefully win another title or 2.

LBJS career will go like this:

Years 1-7: mega stats, no rings
years 8-12: big stats, several rings
Years 13-end of career: mega stats 1 or 2 rings
(kind of the opposite of kobes)

LeBron will retire the all time leader in most stat categories (primarily because he played so many seasons), an NBA champion several times, and several time MVP. Noone will remember that he teamed with Dwayne Wade or Chris Bosh-niether who will be remembered like LeBron.

The argument for greatest ever will be there. If the number of championships and mvps is high enough, there may not be much an argument at all.

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LeBron wanted Larry Hughes, Antawn Jamison, Mo Williams, and Shaq. Don't blame the Cleveland management entirely.


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By going to Miami, Lebron will not be the leader. It is Wade's team and it will always be Wade's team. Lebron can't share the team with Wade; Wade brought everyone together and Wade already won a title with this team alone. It's his team


This argument is absurd. Wade being there first does not change the fact that LeBron is a far superior layer. Wades the oldest and has had the most inconsistent career (his 07-08 season was a total dud, huge 08-09, 09-10 was in the middle) while LeBron isnt even in his prime yet. But again...LeBron is just a lot better than Wade. Beside putting up bugger individual numbers LeBron has done a lot more in Cleveland than Wade has in Miami in recent years, and hes done it with a lot less talent.

When KG came to Boston, Pierce having been there before did not change the fact that KG was instantly the leader and best player on the team. LBJ wont have be the only leader any more. The marriage of James and Bosh will flourish the way Moss and Brady did.

There should be little doubt that this will be LeBrons team for thge last 2-3 years of this deal, if not sooner.

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Shaq was the most dominant force since gravity back in the day. Quit playing. Ok, so LeBrons getting more help. That doesnt change any other points.

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LeBron wanted Larry Hughes, Antawn Jamison, Mo Williams, and Shaq. Don't blame the Cleveland management entirely.


LeBron wanted Vince Carter, he got Larry Hughes. LeBron wanted Jason Kidd, he gets Mo Williams. LeBron wants Amare Stoudemire, he gets Antwaan Jamison.

See the pattern of epic fail by the Cavs?

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