Hi Ross,

Excuse spelling this is written on my phone (at a coffee shop! in a comfy chair!)

I think it is important to note that posters are only so powerful as the size of the community, and KJ's is shrinking.

In general I don't mind the conversation that is there now, but I mind what conversation is not there.

While we all like to be funny, the conversations are either jokes or flame wars, with very little in between. The asertion that "if we just let people aire their grivances they will get them out" has been proven wrong time and time again.

I think the job of moderation, despite all my past joking, really is a power that needs to be weilded at specific and appropriate times and with full participation of the parties. If the parties are unwilling to show growth, then they should be asked to leave.

No doubt things need to present a significant threat to the board, but what you are finding is that all these fools that make minor scuffles on a day to day basis add up to a general feeling of negativity and open hostility which gets boring and further diminishes the pool of dwindling users.

One of the reasons why I do like Argos, etc. is that his schtick points his finger at this and he is an uber parody of the people on the boards.

KJ is a dying community, sadly, and I have an easy relationship with a number of KJers on Facebook and other social networking sites where I can define my relationships without needing input from others. There I can keep track of Michael, Loyal, Raffiki, Mike V., Ripper, Gulli, Baba, Squee, and a host of others. It is not the boards, but it is no stress (my facebook is under my name if you want to add me).

If the board wishes to remain relavant then it needs to keep in mind that there are these other outlets and do its best to ensure that the family of KJ has an intervention and decide, for the good of the community, that it has value continuing as a friendly environment or increasingly becomes a site full of malcontents that have no collective purpose for communication other than the fact the are habitually addicted to web boards.

Cheers,
Andrew

Yes, Yes it does.

John Savage, I do not see two legitimate votes.

It does not affect the results. (-1 for Corpse, -1 for yoshue, -[1] for Lecter)

I'm not sure I agree with the idea that KJ is dying.

I actually like Roo's policy. I've been a supporter of removing the bad eggs since becoming an owner. But there has been lots of opposition.

I figure the same attitude that applies to "it's just a forum" should apply to lifetime bans "it's just a lifetime ban from a forum."

The only issue as I see it is the lifetime bans could become subjective. But from an administration standpoint, its farily clear who's detrimental to the forum's health.

I actually like Roo's policy. I've been a supporter of removing the bad eggs since becoming an owner. But there has been lots of opposition.

I concur; that being said the user still needs a warning and then after the actual ban, a reason for why that action was taken. Or else we'll be seeing lifetime bans left and right.